7.62x39/300 Blk PA ACSS scopes (ARE HERE!!!!!!!!!)

[PrimaryArms]

Originally Posted by JackRydden224

I would think the TWS dogleg is lighter since it replaces the original dust cover. With a side mount you are adding weight to it. Midwest Industry mount is 9oz which is half a pound. Once you add the scope you are adding 1.5 lbs to the rifle.

Jack have you used the Dogleg before? Did it hold zero for you?

Dimitri

[JackRydden224]

Originally Posted by PrimaryArms

Jack have you used the Dogleg before? Did it hold zero for you?

Dimitri

It held zero for me but I was shooting my AK74 with the Bulgarian 74 type brake on the rifle so the thing barely had any recoil. It shot softer than an AR.

When are you getting the Gen II dog leg in stock? I see you only have the one with the leaf sight.

[PrimaryArms]

Originally Posted by JackRydden224

It held zero for me but I was shooting my AK74 with the Bulgarian 74 type brake on the rifle so the thing barely had any recoil. It shot softer than an AR.

When are you getting the Gen II dog leg in stock? I see you only have the one with the leaf sight.

Don't know Jack
Use the notify function

Dimitri

[whlgun]

Any updates on these?.

Any range reports?

[PrimaryArms]

Originally Posted by whlgun

Any updates on these?.

Any range reports?

Here is how the prototype performed!
I was able to get a good group at 400 and maintain center mass out to 500!
At 1x it was fast and could CQB with the best of them. Most likely late December.

Dimitri

[omnitravis]

I have the ACSS 1-6x scope. I want to mount it on my Saiga .308, what would you recommend?
Something like this:
http://texasweaponsystems.com/id1.html
Or getting a mount for my scope rail?
The scope works fantastic, by the way, I have used it on my AR15s, I love it.

[PrimaryArms]

Originally Posted by omnitravis

I have the ACSS 1-6x scope. I want to mount it on my Saiga .308, what would you recommend?
Something like this:
http://texasweaponsystems.com/id1.html
Or getting a mount for my scope rail?
The scope works fantastic, by the way, I have used it on my AR15s, I love it.

Yes anything that gets you low and holds 0. FYI the 5mph wind dots become roughly 10 mph wind with .308
Also read the directions some people assume that it only works with a 5 mph wind. If its ten double the hold 3 hold half way and so on.

Dimitri

[ratled]

Thanks Dmitri for the updates on this, I have been following it. I know I saw somewhere a place to sign up to be notified when this becomes available but I can't seem to find it anywhere, can you please post it again? I know this is the scope I want

ratled

[beatstanfurd]

Eagerly awaiting the release too

[ArmedCMT]

Nice! Now I just need to figure out a scope setup for my SKS.

[ratled]

Originally Posted by ArmedCMT

Nice! Now I just need to figure out a scope setup for my SKS.

Why not this on Choate mount for your SKS?

ratled

[6mmintl]

Where do you guys go to shoot out to 500/600 yards with a 300AAC or 7.62x39mm?

Im a regular at Sac Valley and Swiss rifle club (Gonzales) out to 500 meters but cannot seem to find anyone willing to try longer distances and wind doping with these calibers.

Coalinga?

[PrimaryArms]

Originally Posted by 6mmintl

Where do you guys go to shoot out to 500/600 yards with a 300AAC or 7.62x39mm?

Im a regular at Sac Valley and Swiss rifle club (Gonzales) out to 500 meters but cannot seem to find anyone willing to try longer distances and wind doping with these calibers.

Coalinga?

I am in Southern California.
1000 palms.

Dimitri

[whlgun]

Originally Posted by omnitravis

I have the ACSS 1-6x scope. I want to mount it on my Saiga .308, what would you recommend?
Something like this:
http://texasweaponsystems.com/id1.html
Or getting a mount for my scope rail?
The scope works fantastic, by the way, I have used it on my AR15s, I love it.

If you go this route can you post some pics. I would like to know if that back up iron sight fits under the scope.

[ArmedCMT]

Dimitri, is it possible to pre-order the x39 scope?

[PrimaryArms]

Originally Posted by ArmedCMT

Dimitri, is it possible to pre-order the x39 scope?

Ill ask but don't think we are. Sign up to be notified when in stock.

Dimitri

[Banana_hands]

Originally Posted by PrimaryArms

Ill ask but don't think we are. Sign up to be notified when in stock.

Dimitri

Where can we do that? I haven't found the 7.62x39 version on the primary arms website.

[ArmedCMT]

Originally Posted by Banana_hands

Where can we do that? I haven't found the 7.62x39 version on the primary arms website.

Yea, what he said.

[cortayack]

INterested in one for my 7.623x39 AR and AK47....

[PrimaryArms]

Originally Posted by C.W.M.V.

Can't wait for the 2.5 fixed!

Its a tough little scope! Have been shooting it with .308 and it has never lost zero! Only thing is when you get it be sure to take base screws out and use blue lock tight.

Now let me ask you guys do you want a 7.62x39 version in the 2.5 or 4?

Dimitri

[ArmedCMT]

Originally Posted by PrimaryArms

Now let me ask you guys do you want a 7.62x39 version in the 2.5 or 4?

Dimitri

Same as the 1-6 but Fixed?

[PrimaryArms]

Originally Posted by ArmedCMT

Same as the 1-6 but Fixed?

No and yes
4x has same reticle as 1-6


2.5x


But with 7.62x39 bdc

[ChinatownWizard]

I vote for 4x. The target reticle looks more interesting.

[Rigma]

Will the 7.62x39 be out for x-mas? It is the only thing I have asked Santa for. Santa (my wife) has so far been annoyed the only thing on my list cannot be purchased at this time...

Originally Posted by PrimaryArms

Now let me ask you guys do you want a 7.62x39 version in the 2.5 or 4?

Since 6 is not an option to match the 556...then I am hoping for a 4. Been a long time since I was so excited about a new toy!

[PrimaryArms]

Originally Posted by Rigma

Will the 7.62x39 be out for x-mas? It is the only thing I have asked Santa for. Santa (my wife) has so far been annoyed the only thing on my list cannot be purchased at this time...



Since 6 is not an option to match the 556...then I am hoping for a 4. Been a long time since I was so excited about a new toy!

Do you mean straight 6? The first AK scope will be a 1-6


Here is the 4 x prism minus the red dot and sight height will be as low as possible for an AK.

[Rigma]

Originally Posted by PrimaryArms

Do you mean straight 6? The first AK scope will be a 1-6

Yes I do. Looking forward to it. Any chance of a 2013 release?

[PrimaryArms]

Originally Posted by Rigma

Yes I do. Looking forward to it. Any chance of a 2013 release?

I ll check for ETA

Dimitri

[PrimaryArms]

Ok got word late December!
Dimitri

[Rigma]

Thanks for the follow-up! I have been checking this thread and was starting to worry. You just guaranteed that I will not settle for an inferior Russian optic and will be eagerly waiting with money in hand to purchase as soon as it is offered.

Will it be offered with the option of mount/rings as you do with the .223/5.56 5.45x39 .308 version?

I have the 3rd Gen UTG mount that I picked up really cheap, and have considered the MI mount.

I will wait on any purchase to send all my $ your way, I just want to be prepared.

Thanks again Dimitri for taking the time, you have a repeat customer patiently waiting now.

[morthrane]

I read through the thread and have one question that wasn't answered: the 1-6x 7.62x39 scope, is it a FFP or SFP? If the latter, which power setting is the reticule calibrated for?

Originally Posted by PrimaryArms

Jack have you used the Dogleg before? Did it hold zero for you?

Saiga 308 with a gen2 TWS rail and TA33 ACOG on ADM mount has held zero over ~1000 rounds, including removal and reinstall of the optic a bunch of times. This is with a big muzzle brake on a 16" barrel... haven't tried it without a brake.

My only concern is whether it will keep zero with a heavier optic, as I haven't tried one yet. The TA33/ADM is very light. What's the 1-6x weigh in at, minus mounts?

Originally Posted by omnitravis

I have the ACSS 1-6x scope. I want to mount it on my Saiga .308, what would you recommend?
Something like this:
http://texasweaponsystems.com/id1.html
Or getting a mount for my scope rail?
The scope works fantastic, by the way, I have used it on my AR15s, I love it.

I like the TWS rail, but something to consider on the Saiga 308: early gen2 TWS rails had an S308 specific model that uses a different recoil rod. Later gen2 TWS rails dropped the S308 model; as a result, you'll have to put a buffer pad on the recoil post, transplant the spacer bracket from your existing recoil post, or fabricate a spacer. Without the spacer or buffer pad, the BCG can cycle back and jump the rails.

[PrimaryArms]

Originally Posted by Rigma

Thanks for the follow-up! I have been checking this thread and was starting to worry. You just guaranteed that I will not settle for an inferior Russian optic and will be eagerly waiting with money in hand to purchase as soon as it is offered.

Will it be offered with the option of mount/rings as you do with the .223/5.56 5.45x39 .308 version?

I have the 3rd Gen UTG mount that I picked up really cheap, and have considered the MI mount.

I will wait on any purchase to send all my $ your way, I just want to be prepared.

Thanks again Dimitri for taking the time, you have a repeat customer patiently waiting now.

Not sure on the mount options Marshall would know best.
UTG was used in testing and so was MI

Dimitri

[PrimaryArms]

Originally Posted by morthrane

I read through the thread and have one question that wasn't answered: the 1-6x 7.62x39 scope, is it a FFP or SFP? If the latter, which power setting is the reticule calibrated for?


Saiga 308 with a gen2 TWS rail and TA33 ACOG on ADM mount has held zero over ~1000 rounds, including removal and reinstall of the optic a bunch of times. This is with a big muzzle brake on a 16" barrel... haven't tried it without a brake.

My only concern is whether it will keep zero with a heavier optic, as I haven't tried one yet. The TA33/ADM is very light. What's the 1-6x weigh in at, minus mounts?


I like the TWS rail, but something to consider on the Saiga 308: early gen2 TWS rails had an S308 specific model that uses a different recoil rod. Later gen2 TWS rails dropped the S308 model; as a result, you'll have to put a buffer pad on the recoil post, transplant the spacer bracket from your existing recoil post, or fabricate a spacer. Without the spacer or buffer pad, the BCG can cycle back and jump the rails.

On a .308 I would recommend the fixed UTG rail that is bolted on. I have never tested the TWS so I can't say.

Dimitri

[PrimaryArms]

Originally Posted by morthrane

I read through the thread and have one question that wasn't answered: the 1-6x 7.62x39 scope, is it a FFP or SFP? If the latter, which power setting is the reticule calibrated for?


Saiga 308 with a gen2 TWS rail and TA33 ACOG on ADM mount has held zero over ~1000 rounds, including removal and reinstall of the optic a bunch of times. This is with a big muzzle brake on a 16" barrel... haven't tried it without a brake.

My only concern is whether it will keep zero with a heavier optic, as I haven't tried one yet. The TA33/ADM is very light. What's the 1-6x weigh in at, minus mounts?


I like the TWS rail, but something to consider on the Saiga 308: early gen2 TWS rails had an S308 specific model that uses a different recoil rod. Later gen2 TWS rails dropped the S308 model; as a result, you'll have to put a buffer pad on the recoil post, transplant the spacer bracket from your existing recoil post, or fabricate a spacer. Without the spacer or buffer pad, the BCG can cycle back and jump the rails.

Its a SFP and BDC is on at 6X at other x your good out to 200 and 300 for center mass shots.

Dimitri

[bv141]

Originally Posted by PrimaryArms

Ill ask but don't think we are. Sign up to be notified when in stock.

Dimitri

Dimitri,

are you referring to your mailing list, as the place to sign up for notification?

bv

[PrimaryArms]

Originally Posted by bv141

Dimitri,

are you referring to your mailing list, as the place to sign up for notification?

bv

No it will be up on web soon
It will say out of stock but you can sign up
Dimitri

[Dinosaur Jr]

Originally Posted by PrimaryArms

Jack have you used the Dogleg before? Did it hold zero for you?

Dimitri

I'm not Jack, but for what its worth, I run a TWS Dogleg on my AKS-762 with an EOTech 512 sitting on it and it holds zero.

This ACSS scope looks very interesting to me Dimitri...are we going to see it before Christmas?

[PrimaryArms]

Originally Posted by AKS-762

I'm not Jack, but for what its worth, I run a TWS Dogleg on my AKS-762 with an EOTech 512 sitting on it and it holds zero.

This ACSS scope looks very interesting to me Dimitri...are we going to see it before Christmas?

Man I hope so but don't know late Dec is what the ETA is. I can tell you at 1-3x its as fast as any dot and at 6x the BDC is dead on. We will be releasing video of me testing it getting hit after hit at 400 yards. I believe its 10-10 then CQB double taps and so on. This thing really is a game changer for the AK or any 7.62x39!
I would love to see it as FFP at some point.
The glass is good to ok similar to our 1-6 currently out for 5.56/5.45/.308. The scope is well made with short eye relief.The reticle is really above and beyond anything thats come out before! The BDC/Autorange correlated with wind hold and leads allows you to range and engage targets faster and more accurately then ever before. Everything on the reticle serves a purpose yet remaining clean.

Dimitri

[bruss01]

I'm interested in one of these...

Also, isn't there one coming out as a dedicated .308 (7.62 NATO) version?

[PrimaryArms]

Originally Posted by bruss01

I'm interested in one of these...

Also, isn't there one coming out as a dedicated .308 (7.62 NATO) version?

Yes I have been testing the prototype. The standard 1-6x ACSS matches up very well with .308
We are making a .308/.223 version of the 4-14.
Set for heavier .308 and heavier .223 rounds. 75-77 gr


Dimitri

[PrimaryArms]

Notification to sign up is up!

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary-...a1-6xakser.htm

Dimitri