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California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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AB 1527 Open carry of long guns & AB 1559 passed by the Governor
Brown signed these two pieces of legislation.
http://gov.ca.gov/news.php?id=17766 Open carry of long guns will be illegal!! Last edited by taperxz; 09-28-2012 at 1:19 PM.. |
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He's not a good governor, and he is not a good friend of the RKBA.
He's just better than we've recently had.
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1559 confuses me.
As for 1527, so... winning are we?
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Friend may be too strong, but he was the most pro-gun out of the two options.
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But I think Meg Whitman would have been better for us in both the short- and the long-term.
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Yes i understand that. I was truly hoping he would "shoot" this one down though! urrrrr
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There is no way to legally carry a firearm in CA without the blessing/permission of the gooberment. Where do I sue?
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Yeah I am thinking they just want a court case to go through as fast as possible.
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Really? or should your comment be taken with sarcasm. Just asking...
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I think we all get the impact of banning all open carry but seriously, is 1559 some kind of super secret back door ban/impactor. They are unlikely to put effort into a bill that does not restrict. So what then does it restrict.
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I had the same thought when I saw this. This might be helpful to us in our court cases. If there's any right to bear (carry) arms in California, the only way to exercise that right is a LTC.
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1559 reduces the amount of money that business has to pay to buy guns you can't have and enables the movie industry to make money on guns you can't have. It actually is a pro-business deal, but a little hypocritical since we can't be trusted with guns, but the movie prop guys can.
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When does the long gun open carry ban go into effect?
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Maybe in the same way that herpes is better than HIV.
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I don't see a date in the bill, so I think that means Jan 1 2013. Someone correct me if wrong.
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Hey what does this mean it's from AB1527 didn't he veto SB 1366?
This bill would incorporate additional changes to Section 16520 of the Penal Code proposed by SB 1366, that would become operative only if SB 1366 and this bill are both enacted, both bills become effective on or before January 1, 2013, and this bill is enacted last. I read it Here |
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First thought I had was, great just lost UOC of rifles because everyone thought it would magically advance the court cases. |
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I cant say I am disappointed because I expected it. I don't like it, but I hope more good may come from it |
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"(c) When the firearm is either in a locked container or encased and it is being transported directly between places where a person is not prohibited from possessing that firearm and the course of travel shall include only those deviations between authorized locations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances."
Does this only apply if the firearm is not being transported in a motor vehicle? |
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Wait so.. do.. crap. I admit it, was this a tactical move on Brown's part or am I giving him too much credit? Because it would be brilliant political move, it true, talk about pandering to two opposing sides at once. EDIT NO NO NO, that is referring to the alterations to 16520 (firearms definitions) as prescribed in 1366 only if both bills are passed. So only the definitions of a firearm in 16520 are unaltered, the ban stands.
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On the whole doesn't affect me anyway since I'm still locked within overlapping victim disarmament zones. I never had a non-infringed right to bear arms in LA county anyway.
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where do I volunteer to be a test case
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LOL, that's easy. It's specifically mentioned in the text:
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Let's recall J.B. We got rid of Gray Davis (we didn't get any better with Arnold); but, let's kick them out as fast as they can elect them.
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Right. The politicos STILL think the 2nd is about hunting.
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I don't think there is any help for us, now they'll just say carry a knife or pepper spray.
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My take on this is you gotta pay to play in this state. Hunters get more leeway on carry. Hopefully this will mean LTC's for all that want to pay to play at this point anyway.
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