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Knott’s Berry Farm - No Guns Allowed
Knott’s has been well known as gun friendly (for off duty LEO) for many years. I went the other day during the Military Veteran promotion. I checked ahead of time and could not find anything on their website or forum posts that were recent.
So now they have a funneled entry where everyone goes through a bag search and metal detector. I ID’d myself and declared myself armed prior to the search. A security supervisor was called over and said no firearms were allowed under new policy. I was escorted into the park and allowed to use one of their fixed lockboxes. They gave me a laminated claim check type form and that was it. The security and everyone else was was very cordial and polite. I was able to reverse the process upon leaving, although there was a bit of a wait to be escorted back to get my weapon. I thought this might happen when Knott’s was acquired by new owners recently. The upside was that the park has been cleaned up and is much tidier. Food and drink prices seemed higher and it was also very crowded too. I respect any private entity to have their own rules on their own property, so this isn’t meant to criticize Knott’s, although I obviously disagree that it somehow makes the place safer. Just an FYI, BR |
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Thanks for the heads up. I still got my gun into Disney even though they don't like people to (I wasn't aware until I got to the downtown Disney entrance). I'm one of those ask for forgiveness type of people if you know what I mean.
Work was nice to enough to send me to all kinds of threat assessment training with the feds and locals throughout my career so scouting any place makes it a breeze to get what I want in. One time we did a "practical" exercise in a class to see what we get into a "secure" facility. Ended up bringing a full auto m4 with 6 loaded mags and flashbangs into an international airport terminal without even coming close to getting caught. I'm sure the tsa folks loved when they got that debrief. My thought is any halfway decent terrorist can do the same so I prefer to keep the odds in my favor much to the protest of the anti gun policies our region embraces. But I'm nobody so my opinion doesn't matter and I'll continue to vote with my wallet and frequent gun friendly establishments. |
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Many agencies will discipline employees for violating weapons policies at private property. LASD will impose discipline for such matters, and so will many other agencies. For you ccw holders, you can probably kiss your ccw goodbye. You have a choice in my opinion, follow their rules or don’t go. Disney also has lockers for LEOs, but not ccw holders. As a retired law enforcement officer, it annoys me when guys have the attitude that the rules don’t apply to them. It’s that kind of arrogance that causes some of the mistrust between the public and law enforcement.
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Sucks to hear knotts caved, that would make every major park in so cal a no go for cops carrying right? |
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It's going to be a hot mess with the LEO promotion if they don't have enough firearm lockers.
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I don’t really think so. So many of the young cops today (not including the ones on this website of course), don’t know squat about guns, nor care to even carry while off duty.
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Very true.
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That SUCKS! If I had wanted higher prices and longer lines and no firearms, I would have gone to Disney. Thanks for the heads up Bobby!
Are Magic Mountain and Universal Studios anti-LEO carry too? Ron, re: the discipline you mentioned, what policy section(s) is that? |
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For the record, I disagree with LS2Monaro and I agree with Ron. I will leave it at that. |
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He was banned from all Disney properties for life and informed he would be arrested for trespassing if caught. Like I said earlier, they have facial recognition cameras all over the place. Their house, their rules. Don’t like it, don’t go.
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Hey Samuel
Magic mountain was the first to add metal detectors a few years back due to all the GBs that go to that place. I just went to universal two weeks ago and they also have medal detectors as well. When I went to magic mountain, they told me to take my off duty back to the car. Did not carry to universal so dont know if they have lockers. Due to our current world, I think this will be the norm at most large locations with lots of people. |
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Thank goodness I don’t spend my free time at amusement parks nor baseball stadiums any longer. If cops with guns aren’t welcome, they no longer get my money. Besides, me and the family’s free time is better spent these days armed at “pro-gun” venues like the Sierras while creek fishing and/or golf courses in between.
...and Disneyland; well, I’m not impressed. I imagine it’s like walking around at the Bell Gardens swap meet on Saturday mornings. Crowds, thugs, long lines, etc... Disneyland can go suck it with their daily pass costing between $97-125 now and an annual over $600. That’s money that could be spent on golfing equipment and courses! Ahhhh the remote great outdoors: No metal detectors, no gun nazis and no heathen miscreant canabalistic humanoid underground dwellers.
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A golf course is a terrible waste of a perfectly good rifle range.
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On a positive note, this is coming up: https://www.knotts.com/play/events/f...t-tribute-days
You have to be still on the job or at least have an I.D. that makes you look like you are. |
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Oh, well. |
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Wow, I didn't read that far down. Yes to exploders but No to retired folks??? **** you very much Knotts!
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ETA: I just read that the first two are still free. Again, surprised they still offer this.
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Magic Mountain and Universal are a no go for off duty carry...
I just went to Pauley Pavilion on UCLA campus and was told I couldn't bring my off duty. UCLA PD was nice about letting me store it in their gun locker.
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I've gone to Knott's twice in the last year and they have definitely changed the policy on CCW. The first time I went after they had just instituted the security checkpoint, I identified myself and showed my credentials. The security guard waved me through and told me that if I was going on any of the rides I needed to check my weapon in at the security office (in other words it was up to me to do this). Upon showing my PD credentials on my most recent visit, the security supervisor came over and escorted me to the security office to store my weapon. When I was getting ready to leave, I had to find a security officer and let them know to track down the supervisor to let me into the security office to get my weapon back.
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Many places would PAY to have armed, off-duty LEO's around! Why chase off extra security for free?
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Any venue that restricts LEO/retired LEO off-duty carry doesn't get my business. Too bad about Knotts. I'll add it to the list. Hope these places all check the baby's diaper and stoller, etc. Found a few there myself in the day. LOL! Even restricting CCW holders is dumb.
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Too many law enforcement officers have done stupid things with there off duty weapons when attending events. Especially if they are consuming alcohol beverages. I know of a few officers in the Central Valley that did really stupid things at events off duty with their weapons. Ruined it for all.
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LOL, That's nothing new and it's not just young ones. Over the last 40 years or so, I've met plenty of older LEOs who know squat about firearms. If they aren't gun people, they aren't gun people no matter what their chosen profession or age is. Does everyone who drives a car every day know every make and model of vehicle on the road? Do they all know how each part of a car works? Hell, most don't even know proper vehicle maintenance. It's no different with firearms or anything else.
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No, but they also have Buena Park PD officers assigned their under contract just like Disney does with Anaheim PD.
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I'm not calling you a liar if you know of these incidents first hand; I'm just merely stating that it doesn't seem to have been any worse than the gang fights, drunken brawls, fans getting stabbed/beat down, that still occur from the rest of the populace. But back to the OP; well... I can deal with a private entity that provides decent security and provides me with a location to lock up my firearm so I can be armed to/from the event/location. The whole "lock it up in your car so it can be stolen" routine is indefensible.
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