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Old 12-05-2017, 2:27 PM
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Default sierra catfish and mountain white fish

Anyone ever fish the sierras for brown bullhead catfish or mountain whitefish? I know these aren't the typical species people target up there and many don't even know about them. If you have any experience or stories, post a reply.
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Anyone ever fish the sierras for brown bullhead catfish or mountain whitefish? I know these aren't the typical species people target up there and many don't even know about them. If you have any experience or stories, post a reply.
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mom lived in Truckee as a girl when grandpa was stationed there for the highway patrol.

Some small lake back behind Truckee, they used to catch catfish using licorice as bait.
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Old 12-05-2017, 5:19 PM
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Not sure if Mountain Whitefish & Sacramento River Squawfish, aka Sacramento Pike, or hard mouths are the same, but we have caught a few while trolling for trout in Prosser Reservoir. We have seen tons of fish on the sounder, trolled right through then, without a strike, maybe they are Squawfish? They look like this:

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Used to catch quite a few whitefish on the King's River and the San Joaquin River, both just outside of Fresno. They'd sip on my flies as I was fishing for trout.
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Many Whitefish in the Truckee in Verdi.
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Yeah,
mom lived in Truckee as a girl when grandpa was stationed there for the highway patrol.

Some small lake back behind Truckee, they used to catch catfish using licorice as bait.
Not sure which direction you mean but west of Truckee and above Donner lake off of the old highway 40 near and just below the top of the summit (Donner Spitz/Sugar Bowl) is a small lake loaded with catfish. Fished there a couple of times for other species but the cats always took the bait.
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Not sure which direction you mean but west of Truckee and above Donner lake off of the old highway 40 near and just below the top of the summit (Donner Spitz/Sugar Bowl) is a small lake loaded with catfish. Fished there a couple of times for other species but the cats always took the bait.


Thanks......i was always kind of afraid it was just a fish story.
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I have caught lots of squawfish while trolling worms for trout in my kayak. I won't tell you where, some of my spots I want to keep as private as possible. But they are out there.

I wouldn't eat them, if that is your goal. They are chock full of bones.

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I wouldn't eat them, if that is your goal. They are chock full of bones.
Apparently you're supposed to smoke them.

Dunno how you're supposed to keep them lit though...
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Apparently you're supposed to smoke them.

Dunno how you're supposed to keep them lit though...
Don't roll them too tight.
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Caught some big squaws out of the American on 110 Jerkbaits. They make great fertilizer for the wild blackberries.
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I have read that there are smallmouth bass in Prosser & Stampede, which seems unusual to me, anyway. We tried jigging for them along the Prosser & Stampede dams, with no success.
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Come on up to Idaho and there are a whole bunch of mountain Whitefish in the lakes and small ponds up here
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I don't know anything about mountain whitefish, but it looks like in California they are only in the eastern Sierras.








The catfish, coming out of cold, clean water ought be very good eating.

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Not sure if Mountain Whitefish & Sacramento River Squawfish, aka Sacramento Pike, or hard mouths are the same
Two unrelated species.
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Back in the early 70's, DFG tried planting mountain whitefish in a number of western slope Sierra streams. I know this because I stumbled upon some in a stream where they had not been on previous trips and never were again. All the fish were identical in size. It was in Bear Creek below Bear Lake out of Crabtree Camp Trailhead in Stanislaus National Forrest. I asked a DFG biologist about it a couple years later and they confirmed they had planted the stream. As I recall, they were excellent table fare. But, pretty much everything that isn't freeze-dried tastes good when you are backpacking.

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Two unrelated species.
Three, and there are several other non trout species swimming around in the sierras.
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While trolling for Kokanees in Stampede Reservoir some time back we caught what the Fish & Game rep thought was a Tui Chub, about 10 to 12" long , & maybe about a pound or so, looked more brown than in the picture. we have fished Stampede for over 30 years, never caught another one.

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So that’s what those fishes are called. I thought they were just sqawfish or sac pike minnows. I’ve caught em on the moke up in the Sierra’s drifting salmon eggs and kastmasters. The last one pulled in was easily 20” and 3-4lbs. The first time I’ve seen whitefish was up at 5000ft in a nice size creek. I was huntn and observed two otters pulled out a fish and started fighting over it. I put the optics on the fish thinking it was a trout. Nope. I thought wth kinda fish is that.
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So that’s what those fishes are called. I thought they were just sqawfish or sac pike minnows. I’ve caught em on the moke up in the Sierra’s drifting salmon eggs and kastmasters. The last one pulled in was easily 20” and 3-4lbs. The first time I’ve seen whitefish was up at 5000ft in a nice size creek. I was huntn and observed two otters pulled out a fish and started fighting over it. I put the optics on the fish thinking it was a trout. Nope. I thought wth kinda fish is that.
The few Squawfish we caught were fairly bright silver, sort of. The Tui Chub, if that was what it was , was kind of pale brown & looked similar to a salt water rock cod, sort of. The Fish & Game rep said they are in Stampede, no surprise.

The Northern Pike in Lake Davis was a disaster. Have read likely caused by someone using them for live bait taken from waters in Nevada. Haven't heard any more about them in Davis, maybe they got them all?
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