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Precision/Hunting Rifle Build HELP
Well I have been doing some research but there are so many options and I was hoping the forum members here could help me out with my decision.
Budget - $2000 Rifle, $1000 optics…+/- $2-300 for each Use - Hunting game from deer size to elk size and punching paper at distance What I have thought about… Shilen barreled action, kind of costly @$1500 so that would eat a lot of the rifle budget….or possibly buying a Remington 700 action and going custom from there… My questions…. What would be a good caliber for my needs? I do not reload but plan to in the future, plenty of friends that reload... If I go the 700 action route would I want/need custom work done to the action itself or is it good as is? What would you get with that same budget/needs? i.e action, barrel, trigger, stock, scope, etc... A little about me... Hiking in the hills with weight is a cake walk for me so I am not worried about rifle weight if it will perform better…many seasons as a hotshot for the USFS Lots of time in the outdoors hunting but I have never owned a scoped rifle, always had a friends rifle to use if I needed one… Lots of time shooting ARs, AKs, and pistols….so I will be a newbie in the long range department but would like a rifle that I could grow into as I gain experience... Thanks for the input... |
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Rem 700 Action and Remage Barrel Kit
Good stock that fits comfortably Or just get ready made Sako A7 Roughtech in 30-06 or .270win will work wonders Of course you might want http://www.cabelas.com/product/CVA-S...LE/1914411.uts Reason is considered a primitive rifle with a minimum of .35 whelen in the states of Mississippi and Louisiana. Primitive Hunting Seasons offer some of the best chances of bagging game. .35 Whelen can all North American Game even the big old grizzly bear
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My engineer swears by the 7mm mag, I haven't shot one personally tho…I recently read a field and stream article that said a 270 will do pretty much the same thing a 7mm mag will do?….there is always the 30-06 but I don't see many custom rifles built in 30-06
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Never heard of that. The 280AI will get close though.
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Just about any modern rifle is going to give you the accuracy that hunters only dreamed of 20yrs ago. In the 80's 2 MOA was considered to be a keeper. My Dad's beloved Winchester 88' is a 3 MOA Gun all day. Yet he has taken lots of deer and elk with it in the last 51yrs.
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I think this would be a good scope http://shop.opticsplanet.com/burris-...2RORoCRZ7w_wcB
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I would agree with .300 WM in a 26 inch medium palma barrel (not like I have experience with the stuff as I'm no long range shooter). Or .300 WSM in a short action. .30-06 would work well too. Depending on what he thinks of as long range, 7x57, 280, 7 WSM, or maybe even the new 28 Nosler! Hand loading can keep the velocities sane for shorter range deer engagements. As for whether or not .300 WM will destroy a deer. Speed kills, and bruises. The bruising you get from fast bullets that open quickly ruins meat. Load reduced velocity ammo for hunting stuff at short range and you're good to go. Though like I said, I'm not a long ranger shooter, I just read the forum.
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I would pick a bullet first that way you can build around it for your various pursuits.
I like the heavy 7mm bullets so I would go with a proven one like the 180 grain Berger Hunting VLD. From there I would pick a chambering that can push it around 3000 fps without a lot of throat erosion. Next since weight isn't an issue I would go 28 inches as it gives more velocity at no additional cost and one can always cut it down. On the action I would go with a Remington 700 long action so the bullets can be seated correctly and a magazine can still be used. Trigger would be a Jewell. Base would have 30 moa built into it like a Ken Farrel. Rings would be Burris XTR Signature rings. The stock will get me in trouble but I shoot and hunt mainly long distance so it would be a McMillan Hunter Benchrest stock. Action $425 Barrel $340 Trigger $200 Stock $500 Assembly $$$ Chambering 7 RSAUM.
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http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...+BlkGray+Blued Or maybe this with new trigger and some good glass.
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Another would be a 700P. Either could be rebarrelled later into a 6.5mm if you wanted to get more serious about longrange shooting and feel that the 308 is holding you back. The 308 will be an excellent all purpose hunting and target shooting cartridge.
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You can call it whatever you want, but the 24" barrelled 308 model 29663's are the most accurate factory rifles you can get without going to a full custom build.
They routinely shoot 1/3 moa groups with factory match ammo and better with handloads.
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Thanks for the info Randall, I was going to pick your brain about it at my next appointment. How hard are these to find? Am I going to have trouble finding a shop that can order one?
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If your going to be hunting paper at long range 308 will be fine. Hunting Elk you'll want to limit your range with the 308.
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Just crusing snipershide I saw this that may be a good match for a crossover target / elk hunter:
http://www.scout.com/military/sniper...llan-benchmark |
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6.5 Creedmore (if you want accuracy without reloading). It's a little more shot-placement sensitive than 300WM on Elk, but it does the job fine. Defiance Deviant Hunter action, PROOF Research barrel (steel or carbon fiber depending on budget), and Magpul Hunter 700 stock. The stock is only $250 but it's actually a phenomenal stock and viable for long-range precision shooting.
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Also consider that a used 700 CDL is your +-$300, so a specific hunting rifle doesn't appreciably affect your budget but it saves you 10lbs.
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You can get one of Remingtons new Long Range model. They are available in 7mm Mag which is an excellent elk round I have been told.
Plan ahead and build something that will shoot Lead Free ammo well. Barnes TTSX are my favorite so far, but Ive never shot an elk. Soon in CA you wont be able to shoot a spider with a leaded bullet. |
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If those are your two choices get the 7 mag.
The 308 is a good blacktail gun to 350 yards but it isn't a elk gun at all.
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I was in your same shoes/budget like a month or 2 ago. Ended up with a 5r. Love it. Like Randall said, probably one of if not the best factory rifle out there. I'm holding steady half moa now(other people have shot it better since I'm new and I suck), with factory match after all the add ons. The trigger upgrade is what really made it shine.
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Have a good day! Last edited by thegamettt; 04-07-2016 at 4:44 PM.. |
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