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The ONLY reason for registration is to have a nice list to collect them when they decide that the kind of gun you have is no longer suitable for you. As has pointed out earlier, that's being proposed in Illinois. Suppose 30 mags were serialized and registered. Given the upcoming push to ban them, don't you think they'll come and get them. It's not paranoia when bills like this are being proposed. I especially don't like "if you're not doing anything wrong, why worry" responses. Would it appropriate for the cops to just drop by your house and do a safety check? No telling what's going at your house. Could be anything in there.
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Over the years a number of Calgunners have posted that they received calls form the PD informing them that their stolen guns were recovered and instructions for taking possession of them.
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Here’s a question, so as of 2014 new long guns must be registered. Does that also mean one gun per dros, and only one purchase every 30 days just like handguns? If so, that’s really gunna suck!!!!
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^^^ This
Do I think the government is going to confiscate my guns? Not really. Am I smart enough to realize that the only reason to register your guns with the government is so that they have the option of knowing what type of guns you have? You betcha. I'm deferring my handgun purchase(s) this year so I can buy more rifles and shotguns. |
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Dont clutter OMG threads with fact.
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Long guns are not currently registered during the background process. However, the s/n is kept on the dealer's books. The DOJ or ATF have the ability to audit the books, but audit for compliance purposes, not for the purpose of pairing a specific long gun with a specific person.
That said, the DOJ or ATF can zero in on who a particular long gun if necessary. They do this by contacting the manufacturer, finding out who the lot was sold to, and then tracing the long gun down to the dealer level. From there, the dealer provides the record indicating who the long gun was sold to. In 2014, the registration process for long guns will be exactly like the registration process for handguns. People purchasing long guns prior to 2014 are generally not required to register them. However, if you move into California on or after January 1, 2014, you will have to register everything. You will also be required to report intrafamilial transfers of long guns after January 1, 2014. ** This is based on my reading on AB809 and is not a legal opinion. Anyway, if you are relying on a random internet poster for 100% accurate and complete info, you aren't the brightest tool in the shed. |
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Only on guns purchased 1/1/14 and later
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-hanko
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I lost some really good pr0.... mmmmmmmMovies a long time ago, and have been doing regular backups since then... Make sure backup drive it is unplugged, and maybe in an ammo can (if you are worried about EMPs of any sort)... |
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If you are looking for your first shotgun, Mossberg 500 combo at big 5. Here is mine with a grip from shockwavetechnologies.com 20130102_203503.jpg
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Huh?
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"Excuse me sir, we have information that you are in possession of an firearm that is now illegal to poses, we are here to collect it."
"Sorry, the upper receiver exploded due to poorly made ammunition and the gun was not salvageable so I had it turned in for scrap." Just curious, that if this happened and you said that, what would happen? |
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"Excuse me sir, we have information that you are in possession of an firearm that is now illegal to posses, we are here to collect it."
"Sorry, the upper receiver exploded due to poorly made ammunition and the gun was not salvageable so I had it turned in for scrap." Just curious, that if this happened and you said that, what would happen? Last edited by O'Brien; 01-05-2013 at 9:23 PM.. |
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Dropbox or Box.net account. I have about 60 gigs of free cloud storage, but the cool thing about Dropbox is that the files sync to all authorized computers too, so they are available locally as well. Also use it to store my 1password database so it is available to all my machines, phones, tablets with no sync issues.
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So, is this a proposed bill or an actually passed into law bill.
I refuse to get excited about proposed laws, other than to write and pester my legislator. It's just political fodder to argue about and get political publicity. Proposing a bill does not make it law, and gun laws will always be opposed by the political right. Actual bills passed into law are another story entirely. And does anyone imagine that if you have a handgun on record, the gummint won't go looking for long-guns too? I would.
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Guys, I moved here from a first world country and I personally had to turn in one of my registered firearms. By stroke of a pen one of my revolvers became illegal to possess. Yes a revolver of all things!
Take it from my first hand experience, registration = confiscation. |
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Smitty, it would have been better to figure out if your revolver was legal in CA. Then you could have sold it before moving. That has nothing to do with registration.
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WHAT I HAVE LEARNED SO FAR, MOSTLY THE HARD WAY • Do only safe sex. Never have sex with someone crazier than you are. • Don't marry or move in together before you're both at least 25. • Don't have children until you're married five years or at least age 30. • Put 10% of your salary into savings every month no matter how broke you are. • Don't ever screw around with the IRS. • Keep a handgun on your bedside table. • Don't smart-mouth judges, or cops who stop you on the road. |
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California has already put the new paperwork process into effect, but very quietly. Here's what I went through when I sold my gun to a dealer. Walk in to do a good trade on a highly desirable rifle. Dealer says we have to do some paperwork now through a new dros system. On this paperwork it listed the buyer, seller, all personal info, mod, serial, make and thumb prints. It was not a standard 1173 form and this was never done before, i've bought/sold enough guns to know. Asked what all the new hoops in paperwork was for, newly implemented system says gun dealer...they are already preparing the dealers and tracking guns coming into them. This registration process is going to kill our privacy and severely impact our rights more than before...it's only the beginning just watch.
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It doesn't get any more stupid believe me. That gun was a gift from my father for my 18th birthday which is why I wanted to import it here so I could pass it on to my son. I kept the cylinder but the rest is byebye! If its important to you and you have an opportunity to legally own a gun without registering it believe me do it. |
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I am really sorry you lost your family heirloom revolver. This really was California stupid at its finest.
This law will be in effect January of 2014, it is not a proposed law. The link in my first post tells you what the new law is and when it takes effect. I absolutely get riled up about proposed bills. If we don't, the legislature will do as they see fit. Letters are fine and I am sure they help, but if people don't fight back HARD against proposed bills, we get more stupid laws that restrict our rights. We really can't afford not to pay attention to any proposed laws.
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giving up that revolver wasn't as big a deal, the dissapointment was the lost effort it took to get the import and export permits...only to be jacked at the end.
Canada has had a long gun registry since the mid ninety's, billions of dollars later they learned the program didn't reduce crime. Early in 2012 they dismantled the program....now california is going to try to prove that wasting billions on the same program will somehow benefit society. |
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I predict a huge surge in build parties as well.
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There's a very long list of online storage companies that went belly up with no warning.
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I sent a notarized request form to DOJ a couple of years ago to see exactly what was on file for me. They sent me accurate records for the handguns I purchased in CA but stated that long gun records were not retained.
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Shotguns? What shotguns? I don't have any evil black child-killing shotguns with high capacity (more than 2 rounds) magazines.
I traded them all in at the last "buyback" for a gift certificate and a pair of shoes like the ones worn by my favorite ball-bouncing rapist. Besides, as long as you don't break any laws you don't have anything to fear from the government. Especially our government - you can trust them. Elected officials and their armed and uniformed enforcement personal are here to protect us and keep us safe. Just ask any Native American. Last edited by Marcus von W.; 01-12-2013 at 11:07 AM.. |
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