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Between the roster, the microstamping, and the detachable magazine BS, they're pretty much are going after all handguns more or less.
If only we could restrict the gun-grabbers First Amendment rights to the extent they have restricted our Second Amendment rights. At least we would have to listen to so much BS.
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Odds are I will be leaving CA once my son completes high school so any of my firearms and magazine that would be affected will just cease to exist till the time comes they are legal again. That being said all ammo is just a few hours away as far as Im concerned ca will not get there 50 ammo reg fees from me.
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They already Have!! SB567 Senator Jackson: Revises the definition of a shotgun. If you have a pistol (Like a .45LC) that can shoot a shotshell it redefines the pistol as a short barreled shotgun. You must register it as an assault weapon.
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Aparently i'm a handgun cause i wont be in this state to long after they go into effect
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This past few weeks has been way too much for me its crazy. Keep thinking what am I suppose to do I cant just up and go and start new life somewhere out of state I am a personal trainer and all my clientel is great right now. I have no family out of state either
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Also if you look at SB396, it states confiscation of our pre ban magazines. WTF? That already sounds illegal in any essence. So it pretty much say we want your guns to go along with them mags.
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A slightly different approach would be to establish a partnership, like a LLP for instance (though I'm not sure that would be the best choice), and purchase a property where firearms owned by the partners could be stored. There would have to be insurance and an appropriately secure location. Both of those points would boost the cost I'm sure. However if enough people use it the costs would be more manageable on an individual basis, or maybe per gun. Just thinking off the top of my head here. IANAL either
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Exactly, F*** these Mother F******
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Surprised no one has brought this up that I can find..... the COMMIEFORNIA State Constitution DOES NOT even HAVE a 2nd A IN IT..... I think this is where these tot fooktards are getting their ball sacks all swelled up .. even the 'female' antis.... 'hey its NOT in OUR state's Constitution,so we can screw over fire arm owners all we want'. Since we also have the largest welfare population and illegal population we can bully them to support 'us' if they want the 'social nipple to keep making statemilk and fedmilk....
Like was posted... 100's of 1,000's of us will be crooks, while real crooks get released to start shiiite up again....
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In anycase... it's a step between compliance, fleeing, and willful law breaking even if that means burying your stuff in PVC tubes in the yard. It allows people to play the waiting game without risking felonies and property seizures. I would trade up being able to shoot feinstein guns at a range for a few years for having any gun owners become model felons, or going in any politician's files with their "pre-confiscation" initiatives. As Heller showed, time may be on our side.
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Hate to tell you this but any center fire rifle with a fixed magazine that holds more than ten rounds is also deemed an assault rifle. This would include lever action rifles that use handgun ammo such as 44, 357, 44-40 etc.
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But where would they put everyone? The prisons are already full.
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Put the blame on all those gun owners who buy a gun a week yet never donate anything to pro second amendments organizations. Curse all those who keep on reelecting the anti gun politicians just because they heard the politicians name on the evening news and are too lazy to study up on the issues. Subjects don't need guns in this new world order
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I have been selling off my guns because I am getting tired of the sport. You will soon have to sell your revolvers and lever actions because soon they will be the evil ones. Then what are you going to do?
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http://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php Thank your neighbor and fellow gun owners for passing Prop 63. For that gun control is a winning legislative agenda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Dj8tdSC1A contact the governor https://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php In Memory of Spc Torres May 5th 2006 al-Hillah, Iraq. I will miss you my friend. NRA Life Member. |
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FEMA camps...
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I planned on moving out of CA before I owned guns, now that I have them, and realize what is going on, it makes the move even better.
Again, like I always say, if the laws are passed here- they will be- this will show the rest of the Nation of gun grabbers what is possible. The politicians may be looking to see if there is a great resistance to these laws. Like in CO, I believe, there was a lot of backlash when the new laws were passed. Here in the People's Republik we are greatly outnumbered thus, they can essentially do what they want. Quote:
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In truth, it wouldn't bother me much at all to divest myself of few remaining auto-loaders. I only shoot then about twice a year and that only so I don't forget how they operate. What does bother me is some dickhead legislators telling me I have to get rid of them.
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CA is a state of the United States, and is subjected to the US Constitution: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorpo...Bill_of_Rights
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I was reading a few of the state's glorious leaders wanted to limit and regulate black powder and reloading supplies. Between that, the ammo bills we have, and the new dumb gun laws you might see a "in effect 100% gun ban" soon. It might night ban every gun exactly, but limit availability and use I'm talking about inside 24 months we could lose all rights. They are already trying to count our ammo purchases how long until they say "nobody can have more than 20 rounds of each caliber they have a firearm for and no more than 100 rounds total". They would make stupid arguments like public safety and compare us to the crazy cat lady who had 98 cats in a one bedroom apartment.
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Seriously, we can stop these draconian anti-liberty laws in a different way. Via a ballot measure approved by voters, maybe we could get a state constitutional amendment that, ".. all state agencies and their employees must obey all laws that apply to any citizen." Think about that. Even an uninformed voter would vote YES if the state had to smog check it's vehicles, get cited for speeding, pay income taxes and get searched by the TSA at airports. Here's the kicker - No high cap mags, no auto weapons, no tracers and no detachable magazines for law enforcement. It wouldn't take long for things to return to normal. Think of it as out flanking the antis.
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The difference here is that instead of the Luftwafe bombing us in a stupid show of massive idiocy. The "nazis" have decided to do a joint operation and have landed on the shores of England in the tens of thousands, London has already fallen and there is no longer any central command to issue orders.
Unfortunately Winston Churchill has been executed by the Nazis. That is a better description of the 2A Fight INSIDE of California. For the rest of the Nation it is still game on. BTW they are already drafting the reloading bans and they will be introduced next year.
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Truly said by the cowardly whining Dove.
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C'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps. |
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C'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps. |
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Get off this forum wimp.
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C'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps. |
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THAT IS THE SPIRIT!
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C'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps. |
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BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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C'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps. |
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The point being; Never, never, never give up. In this case, never give up your rights and liberties. Even if the odds don't look very good. I don't propose violence or law breaking. I propose the hand wringing stop. Do it for Ron.
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SO what is so great? I was born here in the late 50's and I've seen this State go right in the toilet since the progressives began taking over. I am staying for now, but I am hedging my bets. Property in other states are beginning to look very attractive and land is relatively cheap. I continue to fight, and give to the cause. I gave another $250 to the FPC last night. But, I will not be made a criminal by a bunch of thugs in Sacramento, and I will deny them as much as possible. And I will stay until it really hurts. BUT THIS IS NO LONGER A GREAT OR EVEN GOOD STATE TO LIVE IN. So don't try to tell me to stop complaining, or tell me this is a great state. IT IS NOT.
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C'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps. |
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