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Old 07-11-2018, 10:25 AM
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Default Should I take my Vepr 12 to the shooting range?

It has a Maglatch in the gas port which renders it a bolt action rifle. My question is, even though it's perfectly legal do you think I should still take it to the range? Is there any chance DOJ or ATF might be there and harass me or take it away?
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:37 AM
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Paranoid much?

Your bigger issue isnít DOJ or ATF, but rather the barrel length required by the range. Most ranges in So Cal require barrels at least 26Ē long, breach face to muzzle end.
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Old 07-11-2018, 3:11 PM
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I'm not paranoid I've I was just wondering if I'd encounter them. Barrel length is gtg.
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Old 07-11-2018, 7:24 PM
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Paranoid much?

Your bigger issue isnít DOJ or ATF, but rather the barrel length required by the range. Most ranges in So Cal require barrels at least 26Ē long, breach face to muzzle end.
Geez, seriously? Which ranges are these? 16" for rifles and 18" for shotguns is legal and virtually universally accepted. Are you thinking about overall length? Won't have any issues with a fixed stock Vepr.
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Old 07-11-2018, 7:38 PM
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Geez, seriously? Which ranges are these? 16" for rifles and 18" for shotguns is legal and virtually universally accepted. Are you thinking about overall length? Won't have any issues with a fixed stock Vepr.
It depends on what type of range we are talking about. Most "Clay" ranges have a minimum barrel length requirement. Rifle and pistol ranges are a different story.
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Old 07-11-2018, 7:50 PM
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It depends on what type of range we are talking about. Most "Clay" ranges have a minimum barrel length requirement. Rifle and pistol ranges are a different story.
Gotcha, wasn't necessarily thinking about trap/skeet specific ranges. I mostly use buckshot through my Vepr.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:33 PM
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I've taken my Saiga w/Maglatch gas puck mod to the range w/no issues.

Frankly, it would be better for a CA DOJ agent (AFT does not enforce state laws) to challenge you at the range because you can prove right there and then that it's no longer a semi-auto.
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Old 07-12-2018, 12:14 AM
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Since itís a bolt action with the puck, can the bullet button be removed and a pistol grip with a collapsible stock be installed?
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Old 07-12-2018, 7:01 AM
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Does a Vepr have a bullet button? Thought it had a latch like a Saiga.

In either case, no need to remove or lock it on a shotgun.

I also have a pistol grip (and fixed stock) on my Saiga. Neither the removable mag or pistol grip violate current law. The evil feature provisions of the law do NOT apply to shotguns.

The only thing that makes shotguns evil is having removable mags as a semi auto. Disable the semi auto feature and it's no longer evil regardless of what other features you have on the shotgun.
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Old 07-18-2018, 8:35 PM
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Says Mr. Tactical. Its not about whats legal. It is about what is safe and sporting vis a vis clay games.

If that upsets you, go shoot cans in the desert.
There are plenty of us that use the range for shotgun sports that donít use clays. If that upsets you, tough.

My 21í Benelli is perfectly safe and sporting for 3 gun.
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Old 07-18-2018, 8:39 PM
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My 21’ Benelli is perfectly safe and sporting for 3 gun.
21' holy c**p that is a long gun

' = foot
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Old 07-18-2018, 8:55 PM
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I registerd my vepr 12 as a raw. I take it to prado. Not many people there and probably no DOJ agents. I LIKE the reduced recoil of the vepr but the choke is a bit too liberal for trap although it works. I prefer my Athenas.

Don't sweat the vepr. I see saigas there all the time. Veprs are more rare but a better gun as u know.
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Old 07-18-2018, 9:47 PM
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I took my Vepr 12 trap shooting once. The adorable asian family in their matching vests, glasses and shotguns looked at me in abject horror. In truth I rather enjoyed that. They were very gracious and the range was fine with it. It was pretty funny. Oh and I sucked at it with that giant heavy Vepr. I am at the higher end of average sized human beings. Even to me the Vepr is not terribly maneuverable for too long. That was a real lesson.

To me, what is the point of having it if your too paranoid to use it!?

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