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Old 01-11-2018, 6:49 PM
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Last year I posted some pictures of my Colt 1911 that was made in 1917. Since it is a new year, I thought I would post up some picks of 1918 vintage 1911

Shipped to the Commanding Officer, Springfield Armory 27 March, 1918:








Top, 1917
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Awesome, nice collection!
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Those are awesome! I know the 1911 has been around for a loooong time, but to see 100 year old guns that don’t look much different than today’s really makes that point. Thanks for sharing.
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That's amazing! Thanks for sharing. My granddad had an affinity for 1911's, and ironically, was born in 1911!

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Very cool! They look amazing for being a century old.
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Good golly. Thank you for sharing. Beautiful.


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very nice...thanks for sharing!
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So great, thanks for sharing
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nice!!!!!!!!!!
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Here’s my 1918 Black Army. Mine is later (and nowhere in as good shape)
as the OP. For those wondering,the US Property was moved to the other side
around serial number 510xxx.Has all original parts with
HP barrel marking(interlaced)and the bore is perfect in an era of corrosive ammo.
Note the rampant Colt has moved to the center of the slide as opposed to the
rear. All subtle changes but need to be known,especially if you are paying big
dollars for a correct 1911. There were several hundred thousand 1911s in
1918. Note: even after 100 years these pistols barely have evidence of slide
stop scratches ! Beetles pistol doesn’t even show signs of being breathed on!








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Collector grade. Won’t ask you how much but suspect it’s out of my league.
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That's a level of awesome you don't see everyday!!

Thanks!!
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History in your hands.
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That is absolutely gorgeous. Thanks for sharing.
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There are 3 calgunners whose safes would be most interesting to comb through...Highpowers, GM4spd and Beetles....Thanks for sharing your museums with us guys.
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To have one, let alone two, 1911 pistols of that vintage and condition is fantastic!

I am very jealous as have nothing even close to that.

Kudos to you, sir!

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From my 100 year Colt to yours, Happy Birthday gentlemen! Here's to another 100 years!

This gun is all original and is one of the finest conditioned guns in my collection. In sunlight that Colt blue really pops!







oh and a little bit of history. From the beginning the Army was not particularly satisfied with Colt on two fronts. Originally they thought that the finish was too shiny (it was, check out pics of my 1912 colt). Secondly, Colt could not deliver the volumes of pistols that the Army wanted. This was especially true during WW1 (the period of these guns). In an effort to speed production Colt started reducing the number of times the gun was polished. The gun I pictured above is called the "brushed blue" finish. It has less polish steps than previously which results in the pattern you see in the finish. In an attempt speed production further, Colt went to just a single rough polish, resulting in the finish that GM4Spd shows in his gun which we now call "Black Army". Note, Black Army guns with a good finish are VERY difficult to find. Because of the lack of polish, the finish tends to flake off. The gun that GM4Spd has is actually considered an excellent example with the Black Army finish.

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Man that's an awesome piece of history right there!

Do you get to shoot it often, and if so how does it compare to newer 1911s? Can you use Wilson Combat, Novak mags, etc? Any reliability or part interchangeability issues?
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Just wow.. I would be happy with a worn 100 year old 1911... those are amazing
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they don't look a day over 90

seriously, my OLDEST firearm is from 1983 - doubt i live long enough to see it hit the 100 mark - hell, my son would have to make it to 94 to see it
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Wow.

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From my 100 year Colt to yours, Happy Birthday gentlemen! Here's to another 100 years!

This gun is all original and is one of the finest conditioned guns in my collection. In sunlight that Colt blue really pops!







oh and a little bit of history. From the beginning the Army was not particularly satisfied with Colt on two fronts. Originally they thought that the finish was too shiny (it was, check out pics of my 1912 colt). Secondly, Colt could not deliver the volumes of pistols that the Army wanted. This was especially true during WW1 (the period of these guns). In an effort to speed production Colt started reducing the number of times the gun was polished. The gun I pictured above is called the "brushed blue" finish. It has less polish steps than previously which results in the pattern you see in the finish. In an attempt speed production further, Colt went to just a single rough polish, resulting in the finish that GM4Spd shows in his gun which we now call "Black Army". Note, Black Army guns with a good finish are VERY difficult to find. Because of the lack of polish, the finish tends to flake off. The gun that GM4Spd has is actually considered an excellent example with the Black Army finish.

As usual beetle, you never fail to impress me with the quality of your collection!

I was going to mention the difference between the finish on GM4Spd's gun and mine , but you beat me to it. And yes, his a very nice example of a "black Army" Colt.

Yours was made very early in 1918 and it looks like both of our guns lead a pampered life.
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Man that's an awesome piece of history right there!

Do you get to shoot it often, and if so how does it compare to newer 1911s? Can you use Wilson Combat, Novak mags, etc? Any reliability or part interchangeability issues?
I have many 1911's and feel no need to risk deteriorating the condition on these old warhorses. They get to enjoy a pampered existence and are brought out and admired from time to time.

I have shot my 1914 vintage Springfield Armory produced 1911 from time to time as it is in pretty rough cosmetic condition and basically it feels the same as any of my newer guns.


As for magazines, all standard 1911 magazines are the same, so even the latest mags would work on any older 1911. Parts are the same, any standard internal part will work.
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This thread is awesome!.....Thank you to everyone for sharing such artworks so the masses can learn about the historical significance of the timeless 1911 design.
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I have shot my 1914 vintage Springfield Armory produced 1911 from time to time as it is in pretty rough cosmetic condition and basically it feels the same as any of my newer guns.

our collections are similiar! nice colts, worn springfields like yours my 1915 springfield has zero finish left.

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Want to even trade that Colts with my WC ?
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I just can’t stop looking at 1911 pistols, especially when they are 100 years old. What a fantastic piece. Thanks.
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Here's my 100 year old Colt. It's a WW2 AA rebuild with an Ithaca slide...


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In 70ish years will we have this thread with a Gen I Glock 17? lol
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There are 3 calgunners whose safes would be most interesting to comb through...Highpowers, GM4spd and Beetles....Thanks for sharing your museums with us guys.
To be clear,speaking for myself(GM4spd) the contents of my safe that are
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I certainly do have some "stuff", but I am in nowhere near the league of beetle. I may start posting some more selected handguns here in the handguns section though, maybe even some long guns in the rifle forums too. I think it would expose a wider audience to classic firearms.

Teaser:
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My 1911 soon to be given to my Son was made in the 40's but later in life accurized and worked on since my Dad regularly shot 45 bullseye matches.

He used to have a couple of Bob Chow's 45's that had been sold long ago sadly.


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I never tire of looking at these earliest Colts. (The repro's, too.) Thanks.
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