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call them yourself n find out the info before you post bull****. You ask Sean Ford at Glock There is a reason why places online are blowing them out for under $500.00 New.
I talked to Chad and Jerry. Check with them yourself. Don't know who this Sean guy is.
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They already stopped making the regular framed (None SF) G20/21 pistols.
They only make SF frames for their little brothers these days, too (g29/30)
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I talked to Chad and Jerry. Check with them yourself. Don't know who this Sean guy is.
That's funny, because even Glock at shot show we're telling CA dealers the same info. I guess we all will find out soon. So far my guy was right about the 3 diff G42 Frames n the G36 dropping for the G36 w/rail. So I will take his word n the 4 diff FFL ( Addex/GT Dist/Vault/Bullethole) who said the same.thing
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It was inevitable, we couldn't expect them to keep making gen3's forever just for the CA non-LE market.

We'll be seeing this happening more and more every year, with all manufacturers, until nothing is left. Liberals call it "die Endlösung der Handfeuerwaffefrage," which loosely translates to "The Final Solution to the Handgun Question."
Yup! Once the semi-autos are no longer in California dealer's shelves then they'll find a way to start with the revolvers.
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That's funny, because even Glock at shot show we're telling CA dealers the same info. I guess we all will find out soon. So far my guy was right about the 3 diff G42 Frames n the G36 dropping for the G36 w/rail. So I will take his word n the 4 diff FFL ( Addex/GT Dist/Vault/Bullethole) who said the same.thing
I don't see a G36 with a rail anywhere, where are you seeing that?

And I only see 1 G42 frame...


Edit: oh, I guess they just aren't on the glock website, I see some talk about them from last year now though

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I don't see a G36 with a rail anywhere, where are you seeing that?

And I only see 1 G42 frame...


Edit: oh, I guess they just aren't on the glock website, I see some talk about them from last year now though
Google G36 rail, it's even on the new Glock mag this year. Story from Big East 3.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...-new-glock-36/

There was the two 0 frames or a early made n later made frames /1 frame/ 2 frame.
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It was inevitable, we couldn't expect them to keep making gen3's forever just for the CA non-LE market.
Why would anybody in a "free state" buy a Gen 3 over a Gen 4?
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Why would anybody in a "free state" buy a Gen 3 over a Gen 4?
I think Gen3 is a little cheaper isn't it? So if you don't really care about the ambi mag release and modular backstraps then I could see someone not bothering with a gen4. At any rate, I don't think anyone in free states would really miss gen3 that much if it went away.
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As far as I can tell through distributors, most discontinued models will still be available in a SF version like the G21 and g30 etc. SF models will still be produced


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The backstraps and beavertails is probably best reason for the gen 4. The grip force adaptor just doesn't look as clean on my 30sf. The 36 with a rail would be a nice touch.

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Since when is, Priming-the-Pump, bull pucky.

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That's funny, because even Glock at shot show we're telling CA dealers the same info. I guess we all will find out soon. So far my guy was right about the 3 diff G42 Frames n the G36 dropping for the G36 w/rail. So I will take his word n the 4 diff FFL ( Addex/GT Dist/Vault/Bullethole) who said the same.thing
My take on it: is the current market overall. Yes, Glock has the LEO contracts in US but the private gun sales in this country are very slow at this moment. If not the slowest it's ever been. Distributors are pushers, hence the rumors and "leaks". If my sources are wrong, I'll send you a free cabela's coupon.
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My take on it: is the current market overall. Yes, Glock has the LEO contracts in US but the private gun sales in this country are very slow at this moment. If not the slowest it's ever been. Distributors are pushers, hence the rumors and "leaks". If my sources are wrong, I'll send you a free cabela's coupon.
I thought just 2 months ago or so we had a record number of NICS checks for gun purchases. I'm sure it's slowed down somewhat since Trump won, but "the slowest it's ever been" is a bold statement. Could you point me towards an article that says that? This one (http://thehill.com/homenews/news/317...trump-election) says background checks are down 20% from this time last year, but to me that pretty much just sounds like they're normalizing after the massive gun buying surge of Obama's years, but still significantly higher than average. In fact there were twice as many gun purchases in January than in any one month during the George W Bush presidency.

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I thought just 2 months ago or so we had a record number of NICS checks for gun purchases. I'm sure it's slowed down somewhat since Trump won, but "the slowest it's ever been" is a bold statement. Could you point me towards an article that says that? This one (http://thehill.com/homenews/news/317...trump-election) says background checks are down 20% from this time last year, but to me that pretty much just sounds like they're normalizing after the massive gun buying surge of Obama's years, but still significantly higher than average.
In my state people with CCW do not go through brady checks every time they buy a gun from the dealer. Also there is a private party. So those numbers you mentioned are not indicative of the current sales. They are a sample with room for unintended errors. I talk to many of the shops around the country every single day. My company provides financing for inventory those mom and pop shops buy from distributors. I am their commercial banker and I see financial reports. Exactly why I trust my numbers.
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Not all are being discontinued, only the SF models.
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Yup! Once the semi-autos are no longer in California dealer's shelves then they'll find a way to start with the revolvers.
They'll come up with some stupid argument that because revolvers don't leave behind shell casings, they help criminals hide evidence.
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I don't care what any manufacturer is doing - Glock included. I will find a way (may be with another manufacturer) to obtain the guns I want in the future. No sales or marketing guy is going to get me to make a purchase on a "what-if" or "what-not". If I never purchase another gun, I'll have plenty to defend my family in the future. This State is really going to hell and needs a drastic change in navigation.
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My opinion. Get a Glock 20SF. Stuff it in your GHB. They are a hoot to shoot.

I have both models......Gen 3 and Gen 4 (thanks to 2A Zone....!)

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SOB! Guess I have to sell something in the garage to fund a 21sf. Wait... CA won't be outlawing Snap-on tools anytime right?
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SOB! Guess I have to sell something in the garage to fund a 21sf. Wait... CA won't be outlawing Snap-on tools anytime right?
Shhhhhhhh...... Don't give them any ideas. "Snap-on" sounds like you can add EVIL features to it.

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Why would anybody in a "free state" buy a Gen 3 over a Gen 4?
I'm in Tucson and for all of black friday weekend gen 3 glock 30s were on sale for $459 locally at Glockmeister. The gen 4 was $545 so I was fine with my gen 3 I bought. I don't really like the full size glock grips but the glock 30 grip feels fine. Great gun by the way.

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SF models are being discontinued, we put them up for sale so those that want them don't break the bank.

Glock 21SF $519.99
https://www.2azone.com/g20sf-pf2050201-p-980.html

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Not all are being discontinued, only the SF models.
Well, I'm confused. I had thought that Glock had discontinued the non-SF models a few years back, but I just looked at Davidsons, and they have a bunch of non-SF Gen 3 large frame guns in stock. So I guess that they are back?

I'm not sure why Glock would continue with the nonSF but get rid of the SF Gen 3s...ergo wise I thought that most folks preferred the SF models? I know that I certainly do.



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Well, I'm confused. I had thought that Glock had discontinued the non-SF models a few years back, but I just looked at Davidsons, and they have a bunch of non-SF Gen 3 large frame guns in stock. So I guess that they are back?

I'm not sure why Glock would continue with the nonSF but get rid of the SF Gen 3s...ergo wise I thought that most folks preferred the SF models? I know that I certainly do.



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No idea, I asked the same thing. For a while Glock 21 Gen 3 were unobtainable and not able to be ordered but Glock 21SF were. Now Glock 21SF are not orderable and the GLock 21 is....

However I did talk to 3 Glock Buyers and they said their next Gen 3 SF shipment is the last one.

Maybe Glock feels that the SF Line is interfering with their Gen 4 line as the frame is slimmer.
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SF models are being discontinued, we put them up for sale so those that want them don't break the bank.

Glock 21SF $519.99
https://www.2azone.com/g20sf-pf2050201-p-980.html

Glock 20SF $519.99
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Side note, it's odd they're discontinuing the SF for those. With the 29/30, they discontinued the non-SF version instead. I always thought SF was generally more popular, but I guess not with the full-size models?
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You guys are awesome

Side note, it's odd they're discontinuing the SF for those. With the 29/30, they discontinued the non-SF version instead. I always thought SF was generally more popular, but I guess not with the full-size models?
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Man I really want another G29... now I can use the excuse that "well I don't have the non-SF one yet, so...I basically need this!"

Coolest carry pistol there is, IMO. Anyways I'm getting off topic, carry on gents
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Man I really want another G29... now I can use the excuse that "well I don't have the non-SF one yet, so...I basically need this!"

Coolest carry pistol there is, IMO. Anyways I'm getting off topic, carry on gents
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I'll hook you up if your local store doesn't have it. $550 shipped, that is with tax.
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Wish I could afford one right now or I'd take you up on that offer. I've seen you guys post on calguns for a few years now and you're always happy to offer everyone the best deals possible, I can't speak highly enough of about you. Thanks!
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I just talked to ProForce and I asked them. They called Glock and were told they was no talk of stopping any Gen 3 production.

Does anyone have anything on paper or is this all just chit-chat that seems to be causing micro-panic...
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I just talked to ProForce and I asked them. They called Glock and were told they was no talk of stopping any Gen 3 production.

Does anyone have anything on paper or is this all just chit-chat that seems to be causing micro-panic...
Nothing on paper but it seems other FFL also have heard the samething. Like I said in another post, my guy at Glock does the armor classes and told me this. I talked to 4 diff big Glock dealers n they were told the samething. ( they even ask me how did I know ) Right now I will take his word because me told me things before that turned out to be right. Hoping its BS and some boss is telling some of the lower guys to spread that rumor to push sales.
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I just talked to ProForce and I asked them. They called Glock and were told they was no talk of stopping any Gen 3 production.

Does anyone have anything on paper or is this all just chit-chat that seems to be causing micro-panic...
Dunno, but there's never a wrong time, nor a bad excuse, to buy a new glock

Worst case scenario if the speculation proves false, is now you've got a new G20/21 you have to find a use for. There are worse things!
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Oh great,

now I have a reason to grab a 10mm before they go up in price or become unicorns in California...
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I just talked to ProForce and I asked them. They called Glock and were told they was no talk of stopping any Gen 3 production.

Does anyone have anything on paper or is this all just chit-chat that seems to be causing micro-panic...
Just heard from David Lawson the West Coast Rep for Glock and he said No.

So it's now even more strange. Well I would say if you were thinking of buying a big bore Glock, do it sooner then later.
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Seems to be a lot of info coming out. Either a lot of people are wrong or GLock has not shared changes to all their personnel yet.

I spoke to RSR and Lipseys Glock buyers and both confirmed SF models for Gen 3. Find it weird they both took my call, said let me check, made some calls and then called back saying no not all Gen 3 Large Frame just SF models.

Either way SF models have had a run on them today distributor wise.
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As someone else posted, I wonder if they broke some of the molds for the big bore Glocks and that is where the rumors started. Or As other FFL posted the production of big bore Glock for 2017 have stopped so does that mean they lost a mold or they won't start producing big bore Glock's until later in the year or even next year.
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