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What would those three be fir us noobs Randall?
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If you master those 3 out to 1400yds, you are probably ready for a 300 win mag to increase your ablity to spot misses at 1500yds+ as the little 6mm bullets that shoot flatter than the 300 don't make much dirt splash to spot your impacts with at extended distances.
Really though, just skip the 300 and go right to a 338 as it's even better for spotting misses.
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The Ruger Precision is a fine gun, and the 6.5 is a good round up to 1000. Recoil management, cheaper rounds, and probably the best bang for the dollar for the first long range rifle IMO.
338 great but expensive, 300 mag a beast and way overrated.
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If you master those 3 out to 1400yds, you are probably ready for a 300 win mag to increase your ablity to spot misses at 1500yds+ as the little 6mm bullets that shoot flatter than the 300 don't make much dirt splash to spot your impacts with at extended distances.
Really though, just skip the 300 and go right to a 338 as it's even better for spotting misses.
My Dad and I have 300 WM rifles, brass, dies, and so on so that familiarity weighs in a bit for me.
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If you master those 3 out to 1400yds, you are probably ready for a 300 win mag to increase your ablity to spot misses at 1500yds+ as the little 6mm bullets that shoot flatter than the 300 don't make much dirt splash to spot your impacts with at extended distances.
Really though, just skip the 300 and go right to a 338 as it's even better for spotting misses.
Thanks for the advice. Closest I have to a .308 is my M1 Garand in the"correct" caliber and my K31. Now I have the RPR in 6.5 CM so I am getting there.
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Which case do all of the cool kids have for their 6.5 CM RPRs? Just picked my RPR up today and it didn't fit into my upright, hard case with the hinged lid, too tall with the scope mounted. So I guess I gotta buy one of those huge, heavy Plano or Pelican 42" or 44" cases? Sigh. My garage is already too full of various size gun cases but I have to get something, was just hoping for something smaller and easier to store than an electric piano sized plastic case.
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Which case do all of the cool kids have for their 6.5 CM RPRs? Just picked my RPR up today and it didn't fit into my upright, hard case with the hinged lid, too tall with the scope mounted. So I guess I gotta buy one of those huge, heavy Plano or Pelican 42" or 44" cases? Sigh. My garage is already too full of various size gun cases but I have to get something, was just hoping for something smaller and easier to store than an electric piano sized plastic case.
Get a Midway drag bag.
Cases suck unless you are flying with the rifle.'
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Cases suck unless you are flying with the rifle.'
Agreed on the Midwag drag bag. I love it.
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Get a Midway drag bag.
Cases suck unless you are flying with the rifle.'
I like that strategy, I can fold it in half to store it too and I will need a shooting mat anyway.
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Question: do you really need 1.45 AR high Seekins rings for Gen 2? It does not have the rail so there is more room? Would the 1.26" or 0.97 high work?
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Question: do you really need 1.45 AR high Seekins rings for Gen 2? It does not have the rail so there is more room?
It still has a tube sticking out the back of the gun where the bolt slides into.
That makes it so you can not get your cheek any lower than on an AR type rifle.
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It still has a tube sticking out the back of the gun where the bolt slides into.

That makes it so you can not get your cheek any lower than on an AR type rifle.

Hence, you need AR type height rings.

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Cases suck unless you are flying with the rifle.'

Agree...hard cases are heavy, bulky, don't pack down when empty, and can't be overstuffed when needed.

Other than that, they're great
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Agree...hard cases are heavy, bulky, don't pack down when empty, and can't be overstuffed when needed.

Other than that, they're great
Any recommendations for a double rifle bag? Want to be able to fit my RPR and my AR both with scope.
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Any recommendations for a double rifle bag? Want to be able to fit my RPR and my AR both with scope.
The midway drag bag fits two rifles.
It is usually unbearably heavy with two rifles in it though.
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I took a few snaps of my new RPR before I take it out shooting and dinging up the hell out of it ;-)

Ruger Precision Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor
American Defense Recon Scope Mount
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Going to keep this pup bone stock, just as the designers at Ruger intended, at least for a while. Now I need to order some ammo, a drag bag and get this thing out to the range and sighted in.









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Thanks! I figured I better get some before it gets banged up in my safe and out at the range ;-) I don't mind dings but it's always nice to see what a brand new one looked like back when you first bought it.
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Dang man beautiful pictures... I wish I could make my Nikon D5100 do that haha
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I don't mind dings but it's always nice to see what a brand new one looked like back when you first bought it.
Would you be willing to photograph my wife for the same reasons?
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Ha, ha, you're funny! Your Nikon D5100 could totally do this and more. It's never about the camera, it's always about the lighting. Just like shooting, it's not the rifle, it's the marksman, photography is the same, I can get good pictures out of any camera if I have my lighting and grip gear. I didn't even clean the gun, this is straight out of the box, you can still see the oil on the receiver sides. You never see this kind of stuff in the viewfinder, you see it on your computer screen after you put the gun, lighting and setup away.
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The midway drag bag fits two rifles.

It is usually unbearably heavy with two rifles in it though.


The Midway drag bags and mats are on sale. Noticed them in the new flyer that just arrived.


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Thanks for the tip, I am looking at the Midway Drag Bag!
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Nice pics, Capy. If I can add my thoughts; consider this bag/mat combo. I've been using one for the last year and really like it.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/93...cal-rifle-case

Also consider putting your level bubble in front of the scope turret. It makes it easier to see your turrets. The bubble is also easier to see when your eyes don't have to focus on such a close object.
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Going to keep this pup bone stock, just as the designers at Ruger intended, at least for a while. Now I need to order some ammo, a drag bag and get this thing out to the range and sighted in.
We think similarly. If you really wanted to customize it, you should have just bought a custom rifle and been in for the same price, right? Better to leave it as Ruger intended and realize the cost savings. Since that is the whole point of the RPR.

I bought the midway drag bag Standish linked for it. It works really well. I'm satisfied with the way it all worked out. Only thing I wish for the bag was an easy way to hook the rear back to it so I didn't have to carry it. Everything else from ammo to targets fits in the bag.
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Are you planning to ding her up soon?
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Looks normal to me. Is the gap even on both sides of the ring?


I tried to keep it even...just did not see that much in my other one piece mounts. This is my first two piece rings.


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My scope mounting kit has a set of honing rods that seem to help make sure things are aligned right.
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After shooting at Richmond this morning we made a trip over to AAA.
could not believe my eyes when I actually saw two RPRs on the shelf. 6.5 and .308. I had almost given up on ever seeing/handling one.
The bolt manipulation on the 6.5 was really rough and stiff, the 308 was a bit better, I guess they will wear in over time. The trigger felt great but the adj. stock was really flimsy. I could see why folks change to a Magpul PRS.
I was also able to handle one of the bergara chassis rifles and came away very impressed, the action/bolt was smooth as glass and the XLR chassis felt very solid.
In the end I liked both but was glad to walk out without getting my CC out.
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Which bergara was it? I have been eyeing the BMP
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It was not the BMP. I think it was the one with the XLR chassis. $2000
I am also interested in the BMP. If it is anything close to the one I saw it could be very interesting. In fact I really like the looks of the BMP chassis.
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Just an FYI-- it may have already been discussed, but I didn't see it and figured I'd pass on a couple of observations. Most RPR owners might know this stuff, but as late as yesterday, I got a call from a friend in GA frustrated trying to jam an AICS mag into his 6.5 RPR without succeeding. Anyway, maybe this is a waist of your time to read, but maybe for someone, it might help.

1. AICS mags - heads up.
I know most you guys are shooting Magpul anyway, but for those that might want load a longer COAL, you might want to use the AICS.

Note that for the 6.5/308 there are two types of 10/5 round AICS 308 magazines and they look ALMOST identical!

AICS 10 round lower Right - AX chassis above it.


Both AICS mags are for my 6.5s, one is an AX the other standard. Only one will work in a 2 RPRs they've been tried in.




Below, notice the slight difference on the AX mag on the right.. this lip at the top is newer and added to lock up tighter in the AX chassis. Unfortunately, they don't work in an RPR. However you can grind it off without ill effect in your RPR.

AX mag well

The change the the AX mag is because the side of the mag well on the AX, is almost removed for easier on scope mag changes... both mag styles work on the AX chassis though.

2. Large scopes such as a 5-25 with NON-AR cantilevered scope mounts (like my SPHURs):
Seeing several shooters and friends with RPRs and with larger scopes sized like the 5-25 Gen2 Razors with NON-AR forward cantilevered mount/rings, find that the cheek riser is a bit cramped, (see Cabybara wonderful photography) and would like the riser moved back a tiny bit more. The solution is really simple, unbolt the cheek rest and flip it the other way.

Cockpit comparisons:
See how much room is between the ACIS cheek rest and the butt plate and scope.


The RPR cheek rest riser is all the way back and still a bit forward of where my friend needs it (not my RPR). Note that it is very far from the butt plate.

Not shown- Flipping the cheek rest riser will put the mounting section forward of the rest and provides a ton more rearward adjustment range on the RPR. Something you only might want to do if you find you're using a very large scope and need a tiny bit more room.


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Finally! The RPR food arrived. Good deal from SG Ammo, $1.20 per round. This will be, at least my first batch of brass for reloading for this rifle. I am also going to buy some of the Prime to compare against this stuff. Now I just need a drag bag and a decent weather day to make it out to the range to sight it in and see what it can do.




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Which one of the Honady factory load is more accurate?

I tried the cheapest Whitetail and they are so so. Good only for barrel brake in and brass reuse.

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I just chrono'd the same ammo, the 140g ELD match. 75% were 2650fps +/- 25fps. The other 25% were 2850fps +/- 25 fps. Not 1 round in between at 2750. There seems to be some serious variations in velocity. It was all shot out of a 24" barrel. YMMV......
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Almost there. Really starting to get somewhere. Not 100% done, but nearly there.



.393", 5 shots. Powder charge low enough to have a meaningful effect on barrel life.
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Which one of the Hornady factory load is more accurate?

I tried the cheapest Whitetail and they are so so. Good only for barrel brake in and brass reuse.








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I have no idea, have not even shot my new rifle yet. But I figure this, some Prime and possibly one other round might be a good way to find out.
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