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Old 12-14-2017, 6:45 PM
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Default Idaho fights court order to destroy elk/wolf data

Once again, the anti hunting groups trying to waste tax payer/license fees on a technicality.

https://www.gohunt.com/read/news/ida...ata#gs.UEB48go

What a waste.... Anyone think the 9th circus will be any help?
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Old 12-14-2017, 7:16 PM
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Somebody needs to tender a records act request pronto.

Once the data is out there, no getting it back.
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Id like to see that lazy fat judge get out there in the woods and try to collect the data.
It probably goes again his views and hates a bully hunter from grade school
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@OP what's the background on this? I read the article and comments.*

I'm not familiar with this particular struggle. I do, however, think its a bit silly to speak of "wasting taxpayer money on a technicality."

It sound to me like people fighting for what they believe in. I mean, is the bullet-button not just a technicality to get around stupid gun laws? Did it not incur years of litigation and law-making and now more lawsuits? Does that mean it's wrong (or right)? I value sound game management (and gathering data towards that effect) and I also value our wilderness tremendously. I'm curious to learn more.


*From the comments: documentary "" I'll watch that sometime and see what I learn.
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I'm not familiar with this particular struggle. I do, however, think its a bit silly to speak of "wasting taxpayer money on a technicality.....
Think what you want. I'd say to do a little more research. I'm not gonna do it for you.

Interesting video, thanks for posting.

Last edited by Flying Sig; 12-15-2017 at 10:04 AM.. Reason: Watched video
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....It sound to me like people fighting for what they believe in.
Yeah just like any "anti anything" group.
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Watched the vid. Hmm. My takeaway is the real people who are negatively effected by the wolves feel slighted and unheard. They feel that "environmentalists" living in cities pushed for this with misguided notions of the reality of "nature" and what it means. They don't have to suffer the negative effects from the wolves.

There is a *lot* to chew on:
- wolves aren't really "endangered" -- they're abundant in Canada.
- they kill (often not just for food)
- they're ruining people's livelihoods
- hunting is suffering
- they're spreading (ID, WA, CO, OR)
- The Feds are trying to take over State's rights.
- The Feds stole $60M from state wildlife agencies
- The Christian God said humans should manage the creatures of the earth to our benefit
- Environmentalists want to literally kill all humans (except themselves of course)
- etc

I think it mostly comes down to this: Wolves were a part of the US ecosystem. They were pretty much wiped out historically because they competed with humans heavily. Now there is an effort to bring them back as they are "natural." Some people feel they have a right to co-exist and some feel humans have the right to get rid of them. Both seem like reasonable positions to take.

I've noted that a lot of people in cities think killing coyotes and rattle snakes is barbaric but they'd probably think different if someone hadn't already killed them all for them.
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