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Old 11-14-2017, 12:17 AM
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I was talking recently with a friend about CCW. He said he would like to apply but was concerned that PTSD/PTSS would disqualify him... maybe even leading to forfeiting gun rights.

Does this sound right? Is this well founded or hearsay? Any help from personal experience would be much appreciated.

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Old 11-14-2017, 12:51 AM
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Yep, he may have to do a psychological testing.

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In order to qualify for a CCW license, the applicant must meet the following requirements:

i) Be free from any psychological conditions that might make the applicant unsuitable for
carrying a concealed firearm (Penal Code 26190).
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CHAPTER 4. License to Carry A Pistol, Revolver, or Other Firearm Capable of Being Concealed Upon the Person [26150 - 26225] ( Chapter 4 added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. )

26190 (f) (1) If psychological testing on the initial application is required by the licensing authority, the license applicant shall be referred to a licensed psychologist used by the licensing authority for the psychological testing of its own employees. The applicant may be charged for the actual cost of the testing in an amount not to exceed one hundred fifty dollars ($150).
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Old 11-14-2017, 1:19 AM
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I feel for all the veterans that came home with this problem. Here is my opinion on this topic:

#1. Has he been described by medical records as "Mental Illness"
#2 Is he on phyc meds
#3 On the 4473 form, you know where this is going,
I don't think I would draw attention to myself

Other option is: If he could get a letter from his medical provider that he is cured and nolonger needs medical assistance, assuming that is true?

If he states that he has PTSD I'm sure he'll be rejected... Sadly
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I feel for all the veterans that came home with this problem. Here is my opinion on this topic:

#1. Has he been described by medical records as "Mental Illness"
#2 Is he on phyc meds
#3 On the 4473 form, you know where this is going,
I don't think I would draw attention to myself

Other option is: If he could get a letter from his medical provider that he is cured and nolonger needs medical assistance, assuming that is true?

If he states that he has PTSD I'm sure he'll be rejected... Sadly

If this is true... it is tragic! Not only is this guy a dear friend... he is THE guy I would want having my back. STINK!

Q#1... I do not know. Maybe by the USArmy? Don't know.
Q#2... No, he is not taking meds.
Q#3... Just reacquainted myself with the 4473 form.

STINK!


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Old 11-14-2017, 4:23 AM
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In many cases it's almost automatic to put people in these meds. My wife had a stroke, so naturally she was prescribed antidepressants and given a psych eval. The hospital literally tried to have her self check in for a 3 day hold before releasing her to an extended care, because she was depressed about having a stroke and heart attack.
Legislation pops up all the time which proposes that family members background be considered when applying for ccw.
PTSD is not just a combat diagnosis today. I've seen it listed after car accidents, strokes, divorce......

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Old 11-14-2017, 10:27 AM
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This issue also pops up on the dros form as well.
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:31 AM
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Yes this does suck for all our Heros who come back from war.
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http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1178893

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The issue on the DROS form is entirely different as it only applies where there has been some kind of formal ajudication or commitment. The question on the CCW application is much broader in that it asks if you have been treated for mental illness. PTSD is a form of mental illness, just is depression and many people are treated for depression at one time or another. It is not a disqualifying factor, unless you are a danger to yourself or others and if so you shouldn't have firearms for your own good.

If you are being treated or have been treated and are such a danger, you should already have lost your gun rights and that suggests that disclosing the same in a CCW application won't lead to the loss of the same.

My two bits. Your friend is better off losing his gun rights and getting help, if he is a danger to himself or others. If he chooses to apply for a CCW, don't hide treatment for PTSD.

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^^^ Agreed. Best not apply until treated/healed. I believe some can make full recovery. Even a therapy dog can work wonders in some cases.
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