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Old 09-02-2018, 1:22 PM
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Still doesn't really answer the question of why someone would buy it for any reason other than simple investment stuff. I don't personally understand it given some people buy pounds of junk silver at a time.
I buy it mainly as a long term investment. Yea if SHTF, maybe people will barter with silver, maybe? But afterwards when things are being rebuilt, silver and gold will have it's place again I believe. That's if you live through the SHTF scenario.


People buy large quantities of junk silver at a time (45-64 Dimes/Quarters) due to the fact that the premium over spot is so small, so it is cheaper than buying 1oz bars, or 10 oz bars for that matter. Yea each coin is only 90%, but they are looking to stack weight.
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I buy it mainly as a long term investment. Yea if SHTF, maybe people will barter with silver, maybe? But afterwards when things are being rebuilt, silver and gold will have it's place again I believe. That's if you live through the SHTF scenario.


People buy large quantities of junk silver at a time (45-64 Dimes/Quarters) due to the fact that the premium over spot is so small, so it is cheaper than buying 1oz bars, or 10 oz bars for that matter. Yea each coin is only 90%, but they are looking to stack weight.
As do I...I basically buy and keep a little of each because you never know. After the cash runs out, then its not really the gold and silver...its whatever you have to trade for whatever they have. A true barter. I may not need gold and silver. I may need ammunition and I have water to trade.

You're right...if/when the area rebuilds Au and Ag will have their place again.
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I buy it mainly as a long term investment. Yea if SHTF, maybe people will barter with silver, maybe? But afterwards when things are being rebuilt, silver and gold will have it's place again I believe. That's if you live through the SHTF scenario.


People buy large quantities of junk silver at a time (45-64 Dimes/Quarters) due to the fact that the premium over spot is so small, so it is cheaper than buying 1oz bars, or 10 oz bars for that matter. Yea each coin is only 90%, but they are looking to stack weight.
Unless you've got some special source, I can buy 10oz bars for as low as $0.49 over spot, and junk silver as low as $0.59 over spot.
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Unless you've got some special source, I can buy 10oz bars for as low as $0.49 over spot, and junk silver as low as $0.59 over spot.
I recently picked up 5 rolls of Merc dimes for $.02 over spot. That was a bit of a fluke though, usually they will be a tad bit more, but still cheaper premium than bars. All depends on where you buy from as well.
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Silver down to $14.13.
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better to buy spam...you can trade it or eat it...metals, you can't eat
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Already have lots of spam!
Silver is one of the final steps in my preps.
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Down, AND the lady's birthday is coming up.

Repent, repent, off to the the LCS I went...
Gifts are ALWAYS better on MAJOR-sale.

I just hope it stays low long enough for me to get some for me too, this weekend...
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Down, AND the lady's birthday is coming up.

Repent, repent, off to the the LCS I went...
Gifts are ALWAYS better on MAJOR-sale.

I just hope it stays low long enough for me to get some for me too, this weekend...
This is actually a good idea......early birthday/Christmas shopping
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I recently picked up 5 rolls of Merc dimes for $.02 over spot. That was a bit of a fluke though, usually they will be a tad bit more, but still cheaper premium than bars. All depends on where you buy from as well.
Not bad. Mercs are my favorite junk.
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I must be getting old: i couldn't find an answer on google. Any specific reason 1986 eagles and libertads cost 50-100% more than current day ish? Is it just because they're 33 years old or is there something more significant?

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I must be getting old: i couldn't find an answer on google. Any specific reason 1986 eagles and libertads cost 50-100% more than current day ish? Is it just because they're 33 years old or is there something more significant?
IIRC, that is the first year of manufacture. Since the populace didn't really know about them, there were very few made.
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I buy Silver for SHTF and the cool factor, like 1911's.
It seems to me that they always command a premium, that I won't pay.
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IIRC, that is the first year of manufacture. Since the populace didn't really know about them, there were very few made.
What a shame. I kinda wanted one as my birth year and I guess I'm going to have to pay double for it.

My other gripe about buying silver is these "secondary market" bars from apmex. Dunno if I'll get kindof an industrual sorta use bar, a regular rectangle, a stacker, or what. Usually if you order more than 1 they try to make them the same, but other times its just a gamble. Makes me hesitate to buy these bar tubes.

Any of you have cheap/good alternatives to coin or bar tubes? I mean other than making my own custom boxes since I don't have access to any machinery.
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My recommendation is to stick to the rounds. For some reason, they are more popular if you decide to sell them. They also take less of a hit if you sell them back and if you order 20 at a time, they come prepackaged in plastic tubes.

If you're intent on the bars, I went to The Container Store and bought a series of those little plastic containers like these:

http://illbedead.com/clear-plastic-boxes-with-lids/

I use them mainly for my gold Eagles and Maples, but they have different sizes and types, so I'm sure you can find them for the 10 oz bars. I got them for $0.99 each and they hold 14 eagles each and I just use the thin packing foam to separate them. The thing is...most of the bigger bars come sealed. .

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What a shame. I kinda wanted one as my birth year and I guess I'm going to have to pay double for it.

My other gripe about buying silver is these "secondary market" bars from apmex. Dunno if I'll get kindof an industrual sorta use bar, a regular rectangle, a stacker, or what. Usually if you order more than 1 they try to make them the same, but other times its just a gamble. Makes me hesitate to buy these bar tubes.

Any of you have cheap/good alternatives to coin or bar tubes? I mean other than making my own custom boxes since I don't have access to any machinery.
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Right now some people are complaining that PMs are "on sale".
Granted, if I were trying to retire right now, rather than add troy-ounces, I'd probably be upset.

It looks like the $14 mark might be about the new bottom-floor, compared to the old floor of about ~$5/ozt 15-20 years ago (for about ~30 years prior), but we shall see!

Picked up some more this weekend, in 2 trips, as I happened to be in the area, and the lady did too.
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I guess a strong economy drives down pm prices.
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I guess a strong economy drives down pm prices. So on one Han d my PMs are taking a dump. But the stock portfolio is doing great.
I celebrate diversify.
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Bought about 120 ounces of silver at $14.20 a couple days ago, feels nice knowing its up at $14.35 today before it even got to me. Of course, its got to get up above $16 again before I can sell at a profit.
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Interesting development. Provident is now selling 1/2 oz silver coins and is currently out of junk silver.
It may not be new but it's the first time I've ever seen half ounce silver coins.
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Interesting development. Provident is now selling 1/2 oz silver coins and is currently out of junk silver.
It may not be new but it's the first time I've ever seen half ounce silver coins.
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Interesting development. Provident is now selling 1/2 oz silver coins and is currently out of junk silver.
It may not be new but it's the first time I've ever seen half ounce silver coins.
I saw some on sale at JM a few weeks ago some random like 1/2 oz Australian commemorative. It also seems platinum going back up. Palladium is getting pretty high.

Saw some other werid sizes like 1.5 oz and 3oz too. Anyone buy those kilo sized bars?
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Interesting development. Provident is now selling 1/2 oz silver coins and is currently out of junk silver.
It may not be new but it's the first time I've ever seen half ounce silver coins.
APMEX has something like 30 1/2 oz rounds and bars. Even 1/4oz and even 1/10 oz rounds. Think its significant?
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Interesting development. Provident is now selling 1/2 oz silver coins and is currently out of junk silver.
It may not be new but it's the first time I've ever seen half ounce silver coins.
It is not new. 1/2 ounce and other sizes have been around a long time.
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What I thought was interesting about the 1/2 oz coins was that generally you would think 1/2 oz coins would be sold when silver got very expensive, not when it is so low.

Oh well...
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Just a heads up for anyone that cares, I bought a square 10oz tube to store the 10oz bars in. My A-mark bars will not fit, the generic 10oz bar won't fit 10 of them inside, and the Silvertowne bars came in their own sealed plastic, so it really wasn't necessary unless I take them out. Its decently thick plastic and a friction fit. Let my $5 accident be your foresight.

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I'll also add I bought one of those 20 silver eagle containers for I think $2. It'll definitely hold 20 silver eagles, it isn't really air tight and rather cheap plastic. Silver maples and libertads are a slightly different dimension than eagles (thicker but smaller diameter). Wish I had a pill bottle big enough, but I just don't. I can't say I'd reccomend this tube because its thin walled, and feels cheap.

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Interesting development. Provident is now selling 1/2 oz silver coins and is currently out of junk silver.
It may not be new but it's the first time I've ever seen half ounce silver coins.
eBay price was about $14/$1 face value AVG, but provident was selling for ~$10/$1 face...

I expected that.
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I think itís still trending down since your OP. (5 years ago...)
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I think itís still trending down since your OP. (5 years ago...)
I would agree but it would be of slight "eeh" factor to see it surpass that other post's view count.
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Guess who's making a KILLING?
https://www.walmart.com/browse/coin-...hProductResult
Look at those prices for BU...

Not that I am a big numismatic collector, but at least the 2017 Silver Krugerrands are holding steady-higher than I paid, even when spot dropped a LOT.
I figure a few years they can be flipped for a bullion purchase, for a 1st year minting, like Zombucks...
2018 Krugerrands are MUCH more reasonably priced.
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They're just acting as a middleman; other sites can sell through walmart.

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https://www.walmart.com/browse/coin-...hProductResult
Look at those prices for BU...

Not that I am a big numismatic collector, but at least the 2017 Silver Krugerrands are holding steady-higher than I paid, even when spot dropped a LOT.
I figure a few years they can be flipped for a bullion purchase, for a 1st year minting, like Zombucks...
2018 Krugerrands are MUCH more reasonably priced.
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Wally World is selling "Silver bullion".. THAT should tell you all you need to know in the silver versus gold investment argument. It's enough to make P.T. Barnum proud!
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Wally World is selling "Silver bullion".. THAT should tell you all you need to know in the silver versus gold investment argument. It's enough to make P.T. Barnum proud!
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Wally World is selling "Silver bullion".. THAT should tell you all you need to know in the silver versus gold investment argument. It's enough to make P.T. Barnum proud!

B-b-b-but "SHTF" and "investment" and....

<edit> I do own some silver. Just for the fun of it.
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Gold and silver are similar to dumbbells at the gym.
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Gold and silver are similar to dumbbells at the gym.
I believe the owners of overpriced status symbols such as a $300-$1000 iPhone, a >$750 Mac, 10" iPads, or those driving status symbols (including truck/SUV's, that not often full of hardware for work) are the real dumbbells...
Including those who can't WiFi tether for free on AT&T cell service.
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