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Old 07-08-2018, 12:27 PM
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Default Radio communications in MT and WY

Big chunks of MT and WY have no cell phone coverage.

I know there are some repeaters - https://www.repeaterbook.com/repeate...hp?state_id=30 - so how would one take advantage of those with a mobile rig for best on-the-road coverage?
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Old 07-08-2018, 3:04 PM
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Wyoming cell service is strange. Last August, I was in the geographic center of Wyoming for the eclipse, near Castle Gardens Petroglyph site. Half-way between Shoshoni and Casper. Had terrific cell service through Verizon for data and phone calls. I always try to carry the most current ARRL Repeater Directory when I have my FT-60's with me.

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Old 07-08-2018, 3:47 PM
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Your best bet is likely to be just collecting the particulars on each repeater along your route and switching repeaters as you go.

Perhaps not the most efficient method, but it is effective. In case of emergencies you would want to be talking to local people.
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Old 07-08-2018, 5:36 PM
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Sat phone and safe travels!
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Old 07-09-2018, 8:01 PM
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Like anything else there are multiple options, each with strengths and weaknesses.

You could get a dual band handheld with a mobile antenna and use repeaters as mentioned above. Lots of options, many people to talk to, cost is reasonable, you only need a technician license, but you are limited by distance & number of frequencies.

You could get a QRP radio & use it mobile. Your options are a little limited (but there are several to choose from and you can even make your own), cost is reasonable, you'll need to know or learn Morse Code and depending on frequency you may need a General Class License, there are less people to communicate with, though you can reach a farther distance with less power. (also for mobile use you would have to stop to key in the Morse Code).

You can get an all mode mobile (like the Yaesu FT-857D). There are very few good options here, you'll need a General or Extra Class license to make the most of the radio, and they are expensive, but you could then use UHF/VHF either line of site or with repeaters and then use HF for greater distances. This is probably the best of all options if price is not option.

There are also GPS receivers that have satellite messaging options. They are a little expensive & require a subscription, but you would be able to get a message out from anywhere.
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Or another +1 for the Yaesu.
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There are a few higher end ham radios that have the ability to tell you the distance from yourself to a repeater. It's quite handy for use.

One problem though is that many repeaters in the areas with less population are not being monitored. You might get lucky, but most likely you'll have to wait a while. Ham radio is at it's core a hobby, not a dedicated emergency use system.

I've got radios in the Jeep, but it's not likely that I'll be able to reach someone on 2m/70cm via a repeater on short notice. Bring a PLB and and/or a HF go box with a wire antenna.
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If I were planning a trip to free America I'd keep a hard copy of SAR freqs that are monitored by Forrest service types in addition to repeaters along the way.
Example:
http://www.oocities.org/shane_binder/sarradio.html#mont
Outdated but may prime the info pump.
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Satellite phone if you're just visiting. Ham/CB/SW if you're staying.
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As for the topic at hand....a good HF rig with a EFFICIENT antenna...Hi-Q brand or Buddi-Pole, etc., will allow for good coms on the lower bands.

As for 2m stuff...if you can get on top of a hill/mountain and with a good antenna and maybe a “brick” under the seat....100+ mile repeater contact is very doable.

I personally use a inReach satellite texter. Low cost, pay as you go plans that are very cheap considering you can text from pretty much anywhere in the world.
I use this for remote solo hunting where there is zero cell service and most folks I am in contact with do not have a ham lic.

Plus it has a SOS function and cheap life flight insurance if you wish to purchase.

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I reach MT and WY all the time on LSB on my CB from southern California
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inReach works great but you have to start the conversation. I used it in Antartica to let the wife know that I had not killed myself, diving under the ice

So if Uncle Ned wants to find you on the road, he can't, you have to make the initial contact and then you can text back and forth, but the outside has no way to contact you until you contact them, hope Iridium Next has away for the outside to make a contact.
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When line of sight VHF communications, repeaters, cell signals, satellite phones, smoke signals, homing pigeons all fail, absolutely NOTHING beats Ham radio single sideband with a portable 12v radio. I like the Yaesu 857d with the Yaesu self tuning automatic HF antenna. Your (non line of sight) signal (I.e. upper and/or lower single side and) might only reach those hundreds of miles away, but it’s a line of communication you can use to get that recipient of your signal to call and bring you some “local” help to your location.

At bare minimum, get a “General” class amateur radio license. Extra class is even better as it gives you full legal access to ALL amateur bands and frequencies. It’s what I use when camping. I love it. It’s fun too.
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