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Old 09-13-2014, 6:38 PM
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So the past few years I have bought a ton of ammo. I think we all know why! The problem is my safe is overflowing with ammo. My question is how do you guys store your ammo? Do you have it in ammo cans, just around the house? I tried making a bug out bag for ammo, but it is just to heavy to carry around. How do you guys prep when it comes to ammo? Also the past couple of years I sold most of my guns, I only have to buy .12g, .45, .223. It makes it easy when prepping. Thanks for any info!
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ammo cans is the best for me.
I am close to the ocean so ammo cans works for me. I use blue painters tape to label the cans plus they stack.
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Ammo cans are great. Make sure that the seal is serviceable. You can even buy locking mechanisms if you like.
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Ammo cans for storage and if you want to throw some in a BOB 6 rifle mags, 3 pistol mags and a bandoleer of shells.
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ammo cans are the best. they stack well and easy to find just about anywhere.
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Ammo cans, the resuable tupperware style containers from the grocery store that cold cuts come in, zip lock bags. The stuff not in ammo cans is stored in foot lockers and a couple styrofoam coolers. My powder is in an old plastic coleman cooler all in a metal shed on the side of the house. The shed has an insulated roof and spinner vent and is in the shade for most of the day.
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2 separate safes for ammo and powder storage. 5 gallon buckets with Gamma lids to store the reloaded stuff and just stack the new cases.
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Or just get a lockable metal cabinet.
It allows you to store in the vertical axis, not just the horizontal ie across the floor
Safe ammo storage is a pain to say the least.
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ammo cans is the best for me.
I am close to the ocean so ammo cans works for me. I use blue painters tape to label the cans plus they stack.
I do the exact same thing with the same tape!

I also welded up a shelf with metal casters to move around the garage. It weighs probably 2,500 lbs loaded with ammo.
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Ammo cans...but don't forget the desiccant. Just in case.
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you mentioned a bob, so relocating is one possible scenario.

therefore if your ammo isn't easily & quickly transportable you've missed the mark.

I say ammo cans
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So the past few years I have bought a ton of ammo. I think we all know why! The problem is my safe is overflowing with ammo. My question is how do you guys store your ammo? Do you have it in ammo cans, just around the house? I tried making a bug out bag for ammo, but it is just to heavy to carry around. How do you guys prep when it comes to ammo? Also the past couple of years I sold most of my guns, I only have to buy .12g, .45, .223. It makes it easy when prepping. Thanks for any info!
LOL, three safes for rifle, pistol and ammo
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I only reload for 9mm and .223, but we only use 3 calibers including 22lr.

Ammo cans with handles were virtually free, once the product inside is used up...


Edit: I forgot about 12 gauge, but 12 gauge isn't a caliber, is it?:
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I have all my ammo in ammo cans in the garage.
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You don't have to fill them all the way up. Right around 50 lbs each is convenient for transportation.

I do, but I'm the extra-large economy size.
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While I do store ammo in ammo cans with dessicant, I have ammo that has been out in the bottom of a closet for over 20 years that fires fine (no dessicant, no ammo can). I live inland in So Cal, humidity simply isn't an issue.
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cans for me as well.
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I only reload for 9mm and .223, but we only use 3 calibers including 22lr.

Ammo cans with handles were virtually free, once the product inside is used up...
Those are great. I use them for storing my brass.

Loaded ammo goes in cans in the temperature controlled house, with desiccant packs.
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Ammo cans and I store them in a big Gladiator shelf.
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Thanks for the info guys.
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I have all mine in ammo cans as well. I built locking devices on all of them and they are pad locked. If you store your ammo in baggies or loose you can get about 1500 rnds per ammo can versus 600 rounds if you leave them in the box they came in from the store
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Military ammo cans and silica packs. I keep mine in their boxes but know some people store their ammo loose in cans.
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I only reload for 9mm and .223, but we only use 3 calibers including 22lr.

Ammo cans with handles were virtually free, once the product inside is used up...


Edit: I forgot about 12 gauge, but 12 gauge isn't a caliber, is it?:
I use those as well for my reloading brass.
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most ammo stored in ammo boxes and kept in separate locked areas of my home.
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IMHO private ammunition dumps are a waste of resources.
Ammo is way too heavy, a liability to store, bulky, and if you think you can take on an infantry division you're, well, imaginative (to put it charitably)
Bug Out? Perhaps if you've got a fork lift! When the Zombies come for your guns, perhaps they won't find the pistol but the stacked crates of 5.56mm are difficult to overlook.

A good friend who survived WW2 Poland recommended always keeping 300 rounds of good quality pistol ammo----not too heavy, not too bulky, discreet and easily moved or cached. Hunting ammo and practice ammo are a different matter, especially in times like the recent ammo shortage, but for survival purposes 300 rounds is more than enough to repel the lawless and to possibly capture an enemy's weapons and his ammo supply.
300 rounds will easily fit in one of those small, handy ammo cans.
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IMHO private ammunition dumps are a waste of resources.
Ammo is way too heavy, a liability to store, bulky, and if you think you can take on an infantry division you're, well, imaginative (to put it charitably)
Bug Out? Perhaps if you've got a fork lift! When the Zombies come for your guns, perhaps they won't find the pistol but the stacked crates of 5.56mm are difficult to overlook.

A good friend who survived WW2 Poland recommended always keeping 300 rounds of good quality pistol ammo----not too heavy, not too bulky, discreet and easily moved or cached. Hunting ammo and practice ammo are a different matter, especially in times like the recent ammo shortage, but for survival purposes 300 rounds is more than enough to repel the lawless and to possibly capture an enemy's weapons and his ammo supply.
300 rounds will easily fit in one of those small, handy ammo cans.
You're forgetting about barter and other forms of trade that ammo will be big wampum for.
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You're forgetting about barter and other forms of trade that ammo will be big wampum for.
I won't say "never" because one never knows what the future could bring. But I certainly would not plan to use ammo for bartering with strangers. The last thing I'd want is to give someone the bullet to kill me with.
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Was just thinking of reorganizing my cans right now, lol. Building off the idea of another Calgunner...

one can for general "911" - bug out, survival, travel light
one can for SHTF - supply for rifle & sidearm

bring one or both as the situation calls for. they most likely won't be filled to the brim, since carry weight of firearms and other supplies will be considered
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IMHO private ammunition dumps are a waste of resources.
Ammo is way too heavy, a liability to store, bulky, and if you think you can take on an infantry division you're, well, imaginative (to put it charitably)
Bug Out? Perhaps if you've got a fork lift! When the Zombies come for your guns, perhaps they won't find the pistol but the stacked crates of 5.56mm are difficult to overlook.

A good friend who survived WW2 Poland recommended always keeping 300 rounds of good quality pistol ammo----not too heavy, not too bulky, discreet and easily moved or cached. Hunting ammo and practice ammo are a different matter, especially in times like the recent ammo shortage, but for survival purposes 300 rounds is more than enough to repel the lawless and to possibly capture an enemy's weapons and his ammo supply.
300 rounds will easily fit in one of those small, handy ammo cans.
Although I myself have a ton of ammo and I believe that I'll never have enough, your point actually makes good sense.

Low key and being discrete truly is the key to survival. While I have a bazillion guns like many others here, when I moved out from my parent's home several decades ago, I only had one 1911 handgun, one Ruger 10/22 and one 12ga Wingmaster hunting shotgun. I was ready

I've always been a firm believer (without getting into the "caliber wars"), that a guy simply armed with one Ruger 10/22 and a 500 round "brick" of 22LR ammo, could have easily survived the crime wave of gangs and thugs that preyed upon the innocent within the super dome, during hurricane Katrina.

Personally, I think I would have actually had some fun within that super dome, crushing evil.
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A gunsafe filled with ammo could potentially become a very large bomb should you ever have a house fire. I suggest that you refrain from that method of storage. If you want more security, they make special security cabinets that are rated for flammable items.
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A gunsafe filled with ammo could potentially become a very large bomb should you ever have a house fire. I suggest that you refrain from that method of storage. If you want more security, they make special security cabinets that are rated for flammable items.
How would that be a bomb?
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I can't believe how many ammo cans (coffee containers) I have thrown out over the years! Just didn't think of that at all! I have a Foodsaver so some of all the calibers we have is stored vacuum sealed. I have read that you can do that and bury it in the yard (or wherever) for years with no worry of it breaking down in any way, but I have not personally tried it.
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IMHO private ammunition dumps are a waste of resources.
Ammo is way too heavy, a liability to store, bulky, and if you think you can take on an infantry division you're, well, imaginative (to put it charitably)
Bug Out? Perhaps if you've got a fork lift! When the Zombies come for your guns, perhaps they won't find the pistol but the stacked crates of 5.56mm are difficult to overlook.

A good friend who survived WW2 Poland recommended always keeping 300 rounds of good quality pistol ammo----not too heavy, not too bulky, discreet and easily moved or cached. Hunting ammo and practice ammo are a different matter, especially in times like the recent ammo shortage, but for survival purposes 300 rounds is more than enough to repel the lawless and to possibly capture an enemy's weapons and his ammo supply.
300 rounds will easily fit in one of those small, handy ammo cans.
Interesting, as I've stowed away 300 rounds of HD "survival" ammo as well, in a small pelican case. The rest I more or less view as hunting, practice, barter ammo. Glad I'm not the only one who saw it this way!
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So the past few years I have bought a ton of ammo. I think we all know why! The problem is my safe is overflowing with ammo. My question is how do you guys store your ammo? Do you have it in ammo cans, just around the house? I tried making a bug out bag for ammo, but it is just to heavy to carry around. How do you guys prep when it comes to ammo? Also the past couple of years I sold most of my guns, I only have to buy .12g, .45, .223. It makes it easy when prepping. Thanks for any info!
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-4 stripper clip 308
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-25rd buck shot 00 (3-5)
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worry about all other ammo later in shtf if you have to move otherwise all in ammo can
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How would that be a bomb?
I have yet to hear one sound reply to that question.

So many people fail to understand what delineates an "explosion".
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A very interesting discussion on ammunition storage. Good ideas and food for thought for the future.

Just an fyi about ammunition in a fire, please check out the following article:

http://www.saami.org/specifications_...tion_fires.pdf

A quote from the article: "Experience and tests over the last half century clearly demonstrate that sporting arms ammunition stocks do not constitute a fire hazard of any great significance."

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IMHO private ammunition dumps are a waste of resources.
Ammo is way too heavy, a liability to store, bulky, and if you think you can take on an infantry division you're, well, imaginative (to put it charitably)
Bug Out? Perhaps if you've got a fork lift! When the Zombies come for your guns, perhaps they won't find the pistol but the stacked crates of 5.56mm are difficult to overlook.

A good friend who survived WW2 Poland recommended always keeping 300 rounds of good quality pistol ammo----not too heavy, not too bulky, discreet and easily moved or cached. Hunting ammo and practice ammo are a different matter, especially in times like the recent ammo shortage, but for survival purposes 300 rounds is more than enough to repel the lawless and to possibly capture an enemy's weapons and his ammo supply.
300 rounds will easily fit in one of those small, handy ammo cans.
Since you brought it up there are many documented instances in Serbia and Bosnia where they sold everything including their women and children just for ammo to protect themselves. The people that could defend themselves with weapons and ammo were the ones who survived and were not messed with. I think your 300 round count is pure folly.

As for bugging out, unless you are headed to a place with known resources it is a recipe for getting killed.

Ammo is like water, if you run out, you die.
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Since you brought it up there are many documented instances in Serbia and Bosnia where they sold everything including their women and children just for ammo to protect themselves. The people that could defend themselves with weapons and ammo were the ones who survived and were not messed with. I think your 300 round count is pure folly.

As for bugging out, unless you are headed to a place with known resources it is a recipe for getting killed.

Ammo is like water, if you run out, you die.
FWIW, I wouldn't trust the word of anyone who'd sell their women and children just to protect their own sorry @$$.
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