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Old 01-14-2020, 10:27 PM
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West Virginia has an open invitation to counties that declared 2A sanctuary status to leave Virginia and become a part of West Virginia.. Originally, it was an open invitation for one county to join dating back to the mid 1800’s.. however, it appears still open and expanding to the 2A counties now..

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This is exactly the use for the third “box” of freedom.
Yet... It's posts just like that and others we've seen on this site (not to mention elsewhere) recently which gave him the 'excuse'...

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One official said Northam decided to ban all guns from the grounds of Capitol Square after receiving reports for weeks about inflammatory online postings by out-of-state pro-gun and militia groups who are promising to attend Monday's rally.
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People should not comply and if arrested, use jury nullification to acquit.
So... Even you acknowledge that the soap box and the jury box remain viable options; thus, we are not yet down to the cartridge box. Even if, eventually, 'acquitted' of the charges, what are the costs going to rack up to for the individual? Bear in mind that the 'costs' are more than just monetary. Likewise, wouldn't "allowing yourself to be arrested," despite being armed and declaring your intention to not comply with "unconstitutional laws" (thus, a law with no 'authority') be seen as a form of 'compliance' by some; thus, making one 'complicit?'

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I hope that people realize, here, that compliance is complicity.
A lot of that depends on your definition of 'compliance.' Take the so-called "assault weapons" registration here. Many insisted that one register some, go featureless/fixed mag with some, and do other things with the remainder or themselves (e.g., move out of State). Ignoring the individual motivations, all those options were, to one degree or another, compliance. That does not mean, of necessity, that ALL who availed themselves of those choices are "complicit" in the effort to remove fundamental rights. It means that choices were made in terms of HOW and WHEN to fight.

It's easy, sitting behind a keyboard, to declare that you will not comply. It's a little tougher when the authorities are knocking at your door or kicking it in or arresting you and confiscating your weapons when you openly flout the law you were sufficiently warned about. Worse. When those you claim to be 'fighting on the side of' see you as a 'criminal' due to making an ill-advised choice or set of choices, it gets even tougher to determine/pursue the 'proper' course of action.

The bottom line is that I cannot condemn those who had a sufficient number of so-called "assault weapons" and chose "all of the above" as their way of maintaining options for the fight we suspect is coming. Does that make them 'complicit' in the attempt to take our rights or does it mean they retained the freedom to fight at a more propitious moment?

If an individual had ONE so-called "assault weapon" and decided to register it rather than convert to featureless/fixed mag, remove it from the State, whatever due to 'convenience of use,' well... I'm not sure that bought you much of anything; but, I'm also not convinced that they 'sold out' and are, thereby, complicit in attempting to take my rights. That's particularly true in that we do not have sufficient numbers in this State, at least in the foreseeable future, to 'fight back' effectively at the ballot box. (Although, Trump is, slowly and potentially, at the moment, giving us back the jury box option.)

However, if you still feel that compliance with the law, no matter how cursory or illusory is being complicit in the removal of rights... I'll wait for the headline showing you openly carrying your loaded, unregistered firearms in the streets, into government buildings, et al. and see how it works out. Remember, in every revolution, it only takes one man with a vision and the courage to pursue it.

Are YOU that man? If not... Well... No offense intended, but... As was noted earlier on another thread...

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It is possible to balance both, if you aren't a loudmouth.
I don't know that I would have phrased it that way; but, I agree with the sentiment behind it.

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VA Governor “Blackface / Coonman / KKK hoods are Kool” Northam declares state of emergency ahead of 1/20/2020 protests.

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So Virginia introduces a bundle of radical laws to destroy 2A rights, militias, sale transfer and registration bills, and the People of Virginia says no, and we're going to vote you all out next term.

Virginia government responds by introducing a bill to eliminate voter ID.

Virginia says we're not going to wait, we'll petition your removal from office and gets almost a 3rd of the 240K signatures to remove the governor and starts petitions to remove deligates.

Virginia govornment responds by introducing a bill to raise the amount of signatures from 10% of the prevailing vote, to 25%.

Folks, this is the a textbook example of tyranny. "We're the government, and we'll do anything we want, whether you like it or not. We won't let you vote us out, we won't let you remove us from office.... And if you can't possess the weapons that a militia would need to force us out, of office, then there's absolutely nothing you can do about it"
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The VA legislature sure seems to be escalating things to whole new levels of foolishness. The amount of tit-for-tat BS legislation they're introducing is astounding. They're scared of losing power and it shows in the increasingly irrational and escalatory manner that they're responding with.

I think, in the spirit of "we're going to take your stuff away" that they're engaging in, Trump should probably preemptively federalize the VA national guard to take that "tool" away from them and limit the damage they can inflict upon their constituency slave population.
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Waiting to see who blinks first , or in this case flinches first .

They are just a few miles across the border from me .

I'll keep you guys updated on anything I hear through the woods .
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The VA legislature sure seems to be escalating things to whole new levels of foolishness. The amount of tit-for-tat BS legislation they're introducing is astounding. They're scared of losing power and it shows in the increasingly irrational and escalatory manner that they're responding with.



I think, in the spirit of "we're going to take your stuff away" that they're engaging in, Trump should probably preemptively federalize the VA national guard to take that "tool" away from them and limit the damage they can inflict upon their constituency slave population.

This is their attempt to regain power in Washington.

Bloomberg spent millions to put Northam in office, and his primary issue is gun control, through (as his attorney stated in the push for red flag laws in Nevada) “creating a culture of forced compliance”.

Northam declared a temporary state of emergency on the basis of unsubstantiated claims of threats of violence. They say they do not want another Charlottesville, but that is exactly what they want. Because it is ground zero for the “Trump and his supporters are racist” trope. Another Charlottesville would be Bloomberg’s chance to play savior to a country that “this president cannot control”.

Virginia SB 64, makes it a Class 5 felony if one assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.
OR Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder.

The language is deliberately specific to the actions of militias referenced in the Second Amendment. In other words, they pushed the button that would elicit precisely the response they want. This in turn would provide Bloomberg the opportunity to ride into November with a massive wave of commercials packed with footage from Virginia. Some of it may even be staged violence. Most of it will contain false claims. No matter, people will believe it.

Bloomberg is running on gun control. He will push the confrontation to the limit in order to gain support for stripping away rights as America’s next president.
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This is their attempt to regain power in Washington.

Bloomberg spent millions to put Northam in office, and his primary issue is gun control, through (as his attorney stated in the push for red flag laws in Nevada) “creating a culture of forced compliance”.

Northam declared a temporary state of emergency on the basis of unsubstantiated claims of threats of violence. They say they do not want another Charlottesville, but that is exactly what they want. Because it is ground zero for the “Trump and his supporters are racist” trope. Another Charlottesville would be Bloomberg’s chance to play savior to a country that “this president cannot control”.

Virginia SB 64, makes it a Class 5 felony if one assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.
OR Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder.

The language is deliberately specific to the actions of militias referenced in the Second Amendment. In other words, they pushed the button that would elicit precisely the response they want. This in turn would provide Bloomberg the opportunity to ride into November with a massive wave of commercials packed with footage from Virginia. Some of it may even be staged violence. Most of it will contain false claims. No matter, people will believe it.

Bloomberg is running on gun control. He will push the confrontation to the limit in order to gain support for stripping away rights as America’s next president.


OK......THIS.....this is what I'm talking about.

This is why people need to stay away from VA.....

This sounds extremely plausible.

I've been asking around what could be the dems true end goal by doing all this, so suddenly.

They are NOT STUPID.

Evil, satanic, communist, yes. Stupid, no.

What GMA states above sounds like what their true plans are.



STAY AWAY FROM VA ON 1/20/2020.

THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO FIGHT.

WILLINGLY ENTERING A KILL BOX IS NOT ONE OF THEM.








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What is far, far more interesting is the offer posed by the legislature of the State of West Virginia to those dissident Va. counties and cities to join West Virginia.

See W.Va house resolution #8, calling for a vote, outlining the historic breakaway split and the reasons therefore.

Mayhaps Nevada or Arizone might pick up some of you poor fellas if asked politely?
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The latest news is the VA Governor banning guns inside the state capital. Meh whatever

Then yesterday he declared a state of emergency saying police have given him solid intel that white nationalist are planning violence at the 1/20 rally. Now all guns are banned from state capitol ground

When the capitol police were asked about this intel, they said they had no such intel. This was the chief of the capitol police. The police force entailed with protecting the capitol building and the governor himself. LOL

Not to mention the VA constitution, and a bill passed in the 2012 session explicitly says the Gov cannot declare a SOE unless certain criteria is met, and this doesn't meet it.

Now you have large youtubers and people in the "gun community" openly stating they will still be armed and be there and encouraging other to come armed as well.

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The latest news is the VA Governor banning guns inside the state capital. Meh whatever

Then yesterday he declared a state of emergency saying police have given him solid intel that white nationalist are planning violence at the 1/20 rally. Now all guns are banned from state capitol ground

When the capitol police were asked about this intel, they said they had no such intel. This was the chief of the capitol police. The police force entailed with protecting the capitol building and the governor himself. LOL

Not to mention the VA constitution, and a bill passed in the 2012 session explicitly says the Gov cannot declare a SOE unless certain criteria is met, and this doesn't meet it.

Now you have large youtubers and people in the "gun community" openly stating they will still be armed and be there and encouraging other to come armed as well.

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The latest news is the VA Governor banning guns inside the state capital. Meh whatever

Then yesterday he declared a state of emergency saying police have given him solid intel that white nationalist are planning violence at the 1/20 rally. Now all guns are banned from state capitol ground

When the capitol police were asked about this intel, they said they had no such intel. This was the chief of the capitol police. The police force entailed with protecting the capitol building and the governor himself. LOL

Not to mention the VA constitution, and a bill passed in the 2012 session explicitly says the Gov cannot declare a SOE unless certain criteria is met, and this doesn't meet it.

Now you have large youtubers and people in the "gun community" openly stating they will still be armed and be there and encouraging other to come armed as well.

Giant **** sandwich

Yep, and this is why smart people will be anywhere but Richmond on Monday, Jan. 20, 2020.

Hopefully it all goes peacefully, but.......not lookin' good.....
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https://www.wavy.com/news/virginia/l...pitol-grounds/

Lawsuit against emergency order is now live!

ETA: PI ruling expected by 4:30p EST

ETA2: Case is: CL20000279-00 in Richmond City Circuit Court. Direct linking to the court docket page yields an error.

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Not going to comment on whether VA citizens should directly confront the ban by carrying next week. I think it would be great optics though to have everyone show up with a 4' pool noodle from Walmart or the likes such that they can have a "Needle Northam Noodle Brigade" as they gather on the grounds.
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Our side’s loss!!!! Claim was 1A infringement. I question that approach.

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When the capitol police were asked about this intel, they said they had no such intel. This was the chief of the capitol police.
Source for this? MSM is predictably silent on this info...


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Not to mention the VA constitution, and a bill passed in the 2012 session explicitly says the Gov cannot declare a SOE unless certain criteria is met, and this doesn't meet it.
Again, source on this? I'm reading § 44-146.17.7 Powers and duties of Governor of the VA State constitution - (7) Whenever, in the opinion of the Governor, the safety and welfare of the people of the Commonwealth require the exercise of emergency measures due to a threatened or actual disaster, he may declare a state of emergency to exist;

This legalese is so vague that just about any circumstantial "threat" of violence during a large gathering/rally could be argued as a disaster. Unfortunately, the term of disaster isn't specified in the constitution so it can be interpreted liberally.

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The BBC is running a story about the FBI capturing some suspected neo-nazis ahead of the rally in Virginia.

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Did Northam ban ALL weapons? I thought Antifa said they'd be there. If the ban is on ALL weapons then the police should be confiscating all the sticks and metal poles from all Antifa who show up. Not going to hold my breath.
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The BBC is running a story about the FBI capturing some suspected neo-nazis ahead of the rally in Virginia.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51142752
Yeah one of them from Canada. Busted for transporting someone unlawfully present in the US and illegally transferring a machine gun to them.

That sounds more like leftist National Socialists planning to start trouble than law abiding people going to protest and stand up for their rights. Granted the bust was made by the FBI who seems to be totally untrustworthy these days and has a history of setting up "terrorists" that they can then easily "foil" the attacks and say "See? We keep sou safe (TM)".

If the report is true, they probably did good by busting these guys, but the spin will undoubtedly be used as impetus to push forward with more infringements. But once again, that's several felonies right there - including transporting NFA items across state lines without an ATF permission slip, I'm guessing. Proving (ad nauseum) that laws won't stop bad guys.

Regardless, w're getting perilously close to real trouble here and the VA gov't seems to keep striking that flint and steel over the tinder pretending like they don't expect it to catch fire and if it does, it couldn't possibly be their fault a conflagration broke out.

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Order from judge (sorry about the twattle link):

https://mobile.twitter.com/CamThomps...017665/photo/1

Appealed to VA SC, but there may not be enough time to hear it before Monday.

ETA: 2A questions were raised (contrary to initial article), and judge cited Heller as stating there is no right outside the home. Reasoning is attached parcels are conjoined to a sensitive area and may be declared GFZs.

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Go Freedom loving Virginians! This aggressive attack people’s rights needs to be met appropriately, and in a measured manner. Just say no! Gays can get married, illegals get medical care, prisoners can get early release, its time to show Libs that citizens are fed up. In parts of the US they are in cartridge box territory. This is what is going to take, just keep pushing Richmond. A2
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...That sounds more like leftist National Socialists planning to start trouble than law abiding people going to protest and stand up for their rights...
That's almost exactly what's being claimed.

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Federal prosecutors said the three suspects were members of the neo-Nazi group The Base, a small militant organization...
According to The New York Times, the Counter Extremism Project (CEP) and the Anti-Defamation League describe "The Base" as follows...

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  • ...an "accelerationist group that encourages the onset (of) anarchy and so it can then 'impose order from chaos.'"...
  • ...members portray themselves as vigilante soldiers defending the "European race" from a broken "system" infected by Jewish values...
  • ...has organized training camps around North America on weaponry and military tactics and distributed manuals for "lone-wolf terror attacks, bomb-making, counter-surveillance and guerrilla warfare."
  • "The Base," is the English translation of al Qaeda, although it is not clear if that was intentional and if there are other similarities between the two...
  • ...also present in Europe and Australia...
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WILLINGLY ENTERING A KILL BOX IS NOT ONE OF THEM.[/B][/SIZE]

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Yet, California is your bread and butter. This isn't a kill box, that's foolish. The only people wishing to make it so is the gun grabbers, and in all reality they don't really know what they are doing. No sympathy from me, but to presume that its a killbox therefore don't go....laughable.

Where were you 20 years ago in california? So much bluster on this very forum about this law or that law, yet the focus was awe well Ill just sit here and post. Meanwhile gun rights in komifornia have resorted to defacto registration, and continues on.
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The latest news is the VA Governor banning guns inside the state capital. Meh whatever

Thats why you have registration and the current situation you do in California. so meh whatever.
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Thumbs up Trump tweets about situation in Virginia...

"Your 2nd Amendment is under very serious attack in the Great Commonwealth of Virginia. That’s what happens when you vote for Democrats, they will take your guns away. Republicans will win Virginia in 2020. Thank you Dems!"

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"Your 2nd Amendment is under very serious attack in the Great Commonwealth of Virginia. That’s what happens when you vote for Democrats, they will take your guns away. Republicans will win Virginia in 2020. Thank you Dems!"



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Hahaha nice Tweet by Trump.
I like it a lot...actually, I liked it enough to make a separate thread about it.

Interesting that it was moved, and moved without the courtesy as to why and by whom.
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I'm caught up in the middle of all this, and I don't even get to vote in VA... hooray Military.

Anywho, to highlight the absurdity...

SB 16 is a piece of proposed legislation that, among other things, will ban "assault weapons". The way the bill is written, semiautomatic center-fire firearms with specific "features" will be banned with no grandfathering for people who already own them.

A lot of my guns will be illegal in VA when this bill becomes law (99% chance of that happening). I'll end up having to make a trip out to NM to store my "assault weapons" and silencers. What really grinds my gears is that I don't even get to vote in the elections that set this whole shebang in motion.

Still, if my "assault weapons" were machineguns... that is, fully automatic... they would be legal.

My sawed-off shotgun would remain legal.

I can even manage to keep my short-barreled rifle legal if I have it configured the right way (attached picture).

But the 20" heavy-barreled match rifle in the safe? Too dangerous.

The M1A? Too dangerous.

The 1911 with a threaded barrel? Too dangerous.

Mufflers to save my hearing and keep from annoying other people? Too dangerous.

Welcome to California's retarded gun laws. And everyone chanting just move forgot that plenty of liberals flee blue states to turn red states blue

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Well... The media is setting things up so that if there is even ONE 'incident,' the protesters will be blamed and the Left will use it as a fig leaf for even harsher laws. Here is an updated 'list' of who they feel is coming to the protest... Militia Groups and Other Extremists Plan Gun Protest in Richmond

Last night, I listened to several 'talking heads' in the news pronounce that it will be up to organizers and those who intend to peacefully protest to keep extremists in line; without any 'violence,' of course. But, if Confederate flags and Neo-Nazi imagery were seen or if there were any incidents (of virtually any kind), it would 'spoil' the protests and demonstrate why Virginia officials legitimately felt the need to restrict firearms. In other words, as someone noted earlier, Virginia officials have set the stage, but they are placing the responsibility on the protesters.

All it will take are zealots, from either side, to set things off and turn this from a peaceful protest akin to the actual Tea Party protests into an Occupy fiasco. Naturally, we all remember how the media covered those two approaches...



The Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street Movements: Similarities and Differences

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...but I also think it is important for people to understand that most monolithic movements, as they are portrayed by media, supporters and detractors are probably not as all-good or all-bad as they would like us to think they are. And if we are going to find those moments of faithful compromise where the common good is put before ideological loyalty, we must be able to engage in this kind of thinking... Both have been targets of media and political sensationalism and labeled, “anarchist” “fringe” or “radical” and have had “bad apples” used as sources for broad sweeping characterizations... Both have individuals — the aforementioned “bad apples” — who act in ways that do not represent the core values of the movement... The tactics are different ... the Tea Party held day-long rallies with sound, stages and speakers while the Occupy Wall Street is setting up tent cities and organizing themselves into committees that gather for a daily “general assembly” when the committees report back to the whole community...






You get it - right? Similar movements. Just slightly different tactics, where both sides have 'bad apples' and the violence shown as part of the Occupy Movement was overblown...

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The response has been different ... now I know these might be contested, but I think the mainstream media paid attention to the Tea Party earlier in their life than Occupy Wall Street and, as far as I know, the numerous confrontations with police has only been part of the Occupy Wall Street protests.
That's about the most 'neutral' article I could find. Most others indicate that the Occupy Movement was peaceful and the Tea Party protests were full of racists, homophobes, violent extremists, etc. Democrats and the media have portrayed Tea Party protesters as 'hostile' while noting that Occupy protesters were modern "Peace, Love, and Flower Power" hippies who meant 'no harm' and were simply expressing their discontent with how the rich are taking advantage. Remember... Occupy Arrests Near 8,000 As Wall Street Eludes Prosecution

But, it was Conservatives use liberal playbook in relation to the Tea Party movement; where it was stated on Wikipedia...

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Some Tea Party organizers have stated that they look to leftist Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals for inspiration.
If you don't expect similar coverage of the Virginia Rally, even if NOTHING happens in terms of violence, arrests, or 'incidents,' then it might be propitious to recall who the mayor of New York was during the Occupy Wall Street protest...



Bloomberg: Wall Street Protests Trying To ‘Get Rid’ Of Jobs, Hurting Tourism

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...However, he showed no inclination to put a stop to what has been going on.

“From a practical point of view, I think we want to let some of this not ‘play out’ isn’t quite the right word, but let them express themselves,” Bloomberg said...
Mayor Bloomberg Downplays Occupy Wall Street’s ‘Day Of Action’

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Despite having recently expressed sympathy for Occupy Wall Street, Mayor Michael Bloomberg doesn’t seem too impressed with Thursday’s “Day of Action,” in which protesters celebrated the movement’s two month anniversary with a series of large rallies across New York City...
His expression of 'sympathy?' Bloomberg Says Occupy Wall Street Is ‘Just The Beginning’

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“We’re coming to a point where Occupy Wall Street is just the beginning, the Tea Party is just the beginning,” [Bloomberg] said. “The public is getting scared. They don’t know what to do, and they’re going to strike out, and they don’t know where.”

“Occupy Wall Street had this great saying, and they were chanting it: ‘We don’t know what we want, but we want it now,’ “ the mayor continued, prompting laughter from the crowd, which included the businessmen Rupert Murdoch and Sanford I. Weill.

“And if you think about it, that tells you what the problem is,” he said. “They just know the system isn’t working, and they don’t want to wait around,” he said, for another hollow promise by politicians (the mayor punctuated his remarks with an expletive).
Yet, what has Bloomberg been saying about the Gun Sanctuary Movement, not to mention his and Northam's push for "sensible gun regulations?" That the media is portraying such regulations in a campaign of "misinformation" and that, as I phrase it...

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...Sanctuary cities providing protection for ILLEGAL aliens is being righteous. Sanctuary counties providing protections for citizens' enumerated, Constitutionally protected RIGHTS is 'evil' and intended not only to do harm, but usurp our democracy...
In the media's view, an handful of fistfights and arrests at Tea Party rallies is morally equivalent to (or worse than) the destruction, rapes, assaults, and chaos, not to mention the thousands of arrests, at Occupy Movement protests. So... again, if even ONE incident occurs, be it violence or arrest of someone armed in protest of the emergency restrictions, don't expect favorable coverage; but, DO expect it to provide a reinforcement for the Left's rationale in implementing these anti-civil rights laws.
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Tyranny at the Door in Virginia


"The problem that Ralph Northam, Mark Herring, and the rest of the statists in the Democratic Party have is that they’re in defiance of natural law the purpose of republican government.
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- January 17th, 2020

The gun grabbers are at it again, this time in Virginia. Sadly, it didn’t just happen overnight; it’s been building for years."
https://amgreatness.com/2020/01/17/t...r-in-virginia/
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Well, This author is a little late to the game.

The bigger story IMHO is that billionaires now openly buy politicians as opposed to lurking in the shadows.

I cringe every time I see Blundbergs commercial about how "he has never taken money from special interests". Oh the hypocrisy. Does he think we're all stupid enough to not know that he funds HIS OWN special interests? Does he think we're all stupid enough to not see that he's buying politicians to stack legislatures at all levels of government to further HIS agendas?

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I hope the Governor of Virginia opens the door and walks right through it.
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Lots of very interesting postings over here:
https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/

That blog is updated multiple times per day.

Specifically interesting:

Special Operations Surveillance Aircraft (possibly multiples) have been spotted in the air above Richmond, VA.


MUST READ Note from Senator Amanda Chase (appears as screenshot in this link)


Interesting times.




ETA: This is nice & terrifying:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARGUS-IS




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How Dems in Virginia plan to hold onto their power and even control electoral votes

Blatant Bloomberg tyranny in action

https://www.secondamendmentdaily.com...se-ever-again/

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Having gone there, what will happen to the Virginia Military Institute, "The West Point of the South"? Cadets keep M14 rifles in their room, admittedly without firing pins, but when has a quibble like that stopped a determined liberal?
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news just stated that 3 "suspected white supremacists" have been arrested.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...ted-in-georgia

so the stage is slowly being set to paint this as a white supremacists rally, and with antifa being in the mix, i'm sure the governor will get exactly what he wants to feed to the media.

either way, i'll be prepping all my gear to be ready to roll for monday
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I’m in Richmond and have just received information from a very reliable source concerning Monday’s rally against the legislature’s gun grabs. Antifa have rented seven buses to bring in their thugs to cause trouble. The report says they will be wearing MAGA hats and wearing NRA garb. They will pretend to be pro gun people. Meanwhile others posing as democrats holding anti gun signs will stand on the side. The Antifa thugs, pretending to be pro gun, will attack the sign holders. Making it look like the pro gun people have started violence. This is the plan. If you are attending the rally be aware. Be very careful
When the Media is on the side of deception, there's nothing you can do. They control the narrative. It will be interesting to see if this is, indeed, what happens. The commies sure are studying their Alinsky.
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