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Is this PRK legal, and if so, how/where to get one???
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it can be legal.
no handcrank and it needs to have a 16" barrel. The one that I know if in CA is set up so that the tripod won't spin 360* so that it won't ever end up <26" OAL.
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where could one find such a fun gun in a CA friendly configuration? I'm finding them outside of CA no problem, just not in CA, or not in a CA friendly kit.
Does CADOJ define the crank as a multi-burst activator or something? It's def still semi-auto and the guy even explains how it can't increase the rate of fire since the "machine gun" guts aren't there....??
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I'd look at this thread for more info about the mini-browning, http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ad.php?t=62821
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Thanks for that, this info helped clear some stuff up...
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I'm gonna go look under my couch cushions for $2000, this thing is just too cool to pass up...
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I think the only real drawback is i believe the belts can't be over 10 rounds or you run up against the High-Cap mag laws
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The one that Jack is talking about was a custom made homebuild. Lakeside is well aware of this custom build and helped the builder with the project by supplying him with a longer barrel and just a lot of over the phone help. Of course, you do realize that these cost at least 3 times what a full sized 1919 does? Also, Lakeside only produces a VERY LIMITED number of kits. So, just getting a kit is not simple and requires months or years of planning and waiting.
WRONG. Just like any other +10 round ammunition feeding device, if you legally own them, you can legally use them. Some of us are lucky enough to have thought that little belts of .22lr were "cute" and bought links and made some +10 round belts for display purposes back when Tipman was making these.
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I was overly cautious of the whole "title 1 firearm" issue here in CA. Back when I did mine, no one had pushed it and I did not want to be a test case. To avoid any chance of a grey area, I choose to make my barrel longer. The only thing changed was the barrel and shroud. Everything else is standard. As I neared completion I noticed that if the tripod (which the ATF says must be permanently attached) rotates all the way and it would bring the OAL to under 26" while the gun could still fire. I again, choose to pin the tripod so it only rotates about 30 degree's to avoid this. There is a letter from the ATF that states the gun as Lakeside builds them is a title one firearm so does that make it a pistol or rifle in CA. Historically CA has called them pistols. But what is the actual legal classification? I am not a lawyer so I choose to error on the side of caution. Here is another link http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ad.php?t=87846
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I should add Lakesides website http://www.lakesideguns.com/ They have a forum that you have to register for where they release new things there before they show them on there main site. If you are really interested sign up for their forum and give them a call to be on a waiting list. They also make a 22LR belt fed upper for an AR. I wish I had the money when the mini M2 kits where release. That one I would have dual barrels for both 22 & 17. The M2 shoots Magnums so the cost difference from 22 to 17 isn't much. The mini 1919's shoot 22LR and there is a bigger price difference going to 17. I think the small bottle neck rounds look great with the mini's.
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I believe Evil Black Rifleworks (EBR works) has a running ad for them in the classifieds.
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A full sized 1919 would be awesome too, and that's on my list as well, but this has the awesome factor, coupled with the fun factor, multiplied by the cost savings in ammo factor, and raised to the power of cool. It's one of those "i don't need it, but i got the money and i know i'm not gonna regret it" type of guns...like a mosin, only way more expensive
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