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Ok so I read thru them all for SD... Since im a Firefighter and Paramedic the ones that most closley resemble me are on pages
162,310,419,427,433,543 Those plus other info deemed from other applications I have found that dealing with criminals, metally ill, domestic viollence, gang members, and crime scenes in high crime areas, that these constitute good causes and FFPM's have succesfully been awarded CCW's by Gore. So I will craft my application to cover these same topics, and mention my fear for my life and safety as well as my family when off duty. The question I have is "Will there be a coordinated application blitz by others in SD, or a time frame for applying?" AND "If I get rejected and then file an appeal and get rejected again, which im pretty sure Gore will do, what is Calguns prepared to do legally???"
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Ok....so I got thru them all. Although some of them had to be so heavily redacted it made them fairly worthless for comparitive value, removing those that are judges/DAs/LEOs, when you look at the basics of any of those not involving a specific threat.......dont they all just come down to "personal protection"?
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Note, however, that there is no appeals process under current law. To the extent the agency offers denied applicants some scheme of requesting a review of the application and determination thereupon, we believe it is really a re-application process in function. There's really no probative value of any appeal decision except to the extent that it modifies the original determination. -Brandon ETA: Note that all 2A cases, and probably all EP-only cases (related to gun issues) are stayed pending Nordyke. Richards and Peruta are already up at CA9 and briefed (also pending Nordyke). There's nothing really to do except allow those cases to resolve and work on the addressable issues in the time period leading up to Richards/Peruta ultimate resolution.
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I own two businesses, although money isn't exactly jumping into my pocket right now. Does that really matter if I were to apply?
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Your not planning to coordinate an application event in San Diego, at this time. So at what time? "allow those cases to resolve" once again Calguns famous mantra "two weeks" Just a brief review of willing people just on this website I count several dozen if not over 100 San Diegans waiting "for orders". If something was planned I could easily guarantee at least another 100 coworkers to join in, not on calguns. Gore is the epitomy of tyrannical law enforcement, his special treatment and denial of 14th amendment rights to law abiding citizens is evident. You have documentable evidence of bias against carry rights, Gores attendence at AB1934 discussion meetings. And now 100's of people ready to do something, and your advice is.....lets just wait? What about stirring up media attention for gun rights, address Gore's pending lawsuits, the fact the ban on open carry now makes his argument in Peruta completely void and without merit.
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Your frustrations are misdirected. Yes, your rights are being infringed by government just as tens of millions of others are similarly infringed. We publish the records because it helps people to understand the contours of the sheriffs' policy as-applied. Further, it allows people to argue in support of their application, their circumstances, and their right to equal protection from an informed position. It is not, nor ever has it ever been, a guarantee of a successful application. Quote:
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There were GC statements included with the Peruta filings that showed only "HDSA member" or similar as good cause. I didn't see those in the PDF. Did Gore hold some out of the batch? Or were they there I just glossed over them?
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I saw lots of reserve deputies but no HDSA members.
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Yeah....that's what caught my attention.
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Ccw San Diego...
Not to beat a dead horse, but is it still virtually impossible to get a ccw without a damn good reason other than 2nd amendment? I know there are quite a few threads about this but they are all pages and pages across the last 4 years or so....just curious what the short answer is....also if anyone is familiar with Santee in particular would I apply directly at Santee sheriffs or is it just considered san Diego in general?
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I believe there is a lawsuit stayed pending on Nordyke. No changes for a while.
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From my understanding of it u would have to apply tithe San Diego County Sherrifs department.
I did hear from a LEO buddy I mine yesterday that it is getting a little easier in SDC but I don't know how accurate that is or what exactly it he means by "easier". |
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You still need to articulate verifiable cause, whatever they decide that means, and then, if no other prohibiting factors exist, and if you jump through all the hoops, you may be issued a license. It's not impossible, just not a slam dunk, yet.
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Although I was suprised by some of the approved GC statements I read in the sub-forum. Especially the ones granted to those for the purposes of Exec. Protection / Body Guard work. Granting such permits seems hypocritcal because they are giving a permit to someone with no specific threat against themselves to hire themselves out as a hired gun to "protect" people who may or may not have any threat or GC to need armed protection themselves, or at least not GC that has been reviewed by the sheriff. So I can hire someone to carry a gun for me when I have no specific need or threat, but I cant get a permit to carry a gun to protect myself? That's just BS.
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One big change for the approval precess is that your app goes threw a comity and not a single person. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not but before it used to be you submitted your app that app was looked over b the person assigned to you and once everything was in order they would submit it to a single person that would decide, now it goes to basically a hearing.
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I was recommended for approval by the Licensing Specialist (got a phone call for that very reason) actually, I was told that his boss instructed him to recommend approval. Then denied by the panel.
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Denied renewal by Blanca Pelowitz and appeal to Asst Sheriff Patricia Duke.
The licencing division remains unfair,arbitrary and capricious. Hopefully there will be redress in the courts. Mark S Cleary |
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Sorry to hear that Mark.
Perhaps one of the people in-the-know here is looking for a case like yours.
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On the up side - you were safe for a while. It's wild how one minute you're ok and the next you're not. You donating to CGF? I've got a monthly donation set up to help fight the fight. I hope "shall issue" is close at hand.
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Seriously? That asked for bank records? What possible justification do they have for that? Did you claim you had to carry a lot of cash with a business and wanted to see those deposits? Seems completely irrelevant. Almost like they've started just making people so uncomfortable with privacy violations they give up. There really is not 2nd Amendment (bear) in the PRK anymore.
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Let us know.
Just bought a restaurant and Im interested in this too.
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Just had first interview. Was told it was most unlikely that I would be able to get a CCW for the reason of just self-defense. Since I'm in the military they said if I were to get a memo from my immediate supervisor stating why I would need it and from the base commander that they had knowledge of my request then it would help my chances. So basically it's a possibility but the question I'm thinking over is if it's worth $105 (fees that I don't get back). I'll elaborate more on my reasoning later.
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Tell your immediate supervisor and base commander to give you a letter informing the SDSO license division that you live in a "border area".
Tell them there are drug gangs and cartels and if they do not believe this that they can ask their Sheriff's council J. Chapin.That should be sufficient for good cause LTC. |
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Exactly. I was told "besides a restraining order/threats this was the only other way(protecting cash)". As a small business owner I do deposit cash, but there is no way they are getting my bank statements.
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If that is the only thing stopping you, then apply. |
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Any new movement to report here in San Diego? |
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