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Old 04-02-2021, 1:09 PM
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Just a warning to Idaho, especially N. Idaho; I'll be moving up there in July...LOL.

I'm tired of you guys bragging about freedom, and guns you can own, and Constitutional carry, etc. So, I'm moving up to see what all the fuss is about.

I decided on the North mainly because after making three trips to Idaho I found a nice house that met our needs at a ridiculously high price, but doable and much less than our California house.

We were lucky to stumble across this place not on the market yet, nice homes at a decent price are hard to find right now in Idaho.

Anyway, looking forward to being an Idahoan.
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Vote Republican, vote America, leave all liberal feelings and BS in Cali.

You first order of business is to buy a suppressor. It’s about 300 days right now for approvals.
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You first order of business is to buy a suppressor. It’s about 300 days right now for approvals.
Ouch, and i was hoping to get mine by June... looks more like October.
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I've never been a liberal politically. I was somewhat socially liberal in my party days. But when I got married and had kids I got much more socially conservative.

I've voted Republican since I was 18. In truth I haven't trusted the GOP for years, but there is no alternative.

I don't fit in in Commiefornia any more. Was born here, I'll die in a free state, supporting freedom and conservative values.
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Old 04-02-2021, 5:34 PM
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BTW I found an excellent Sushi place in CDA! iSushi. Last place I expected to find good sushi. At least our meal was good.

The people are really nice in Idaho, I'm getting used to waving at other drivers and acknowledging people walking by.

CDA is not the same as other places in Idaho, but its still way better than CA.
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You first order of business is to buy a suppressor. It’s about 300 days right now for approvals.
Your second mission is to buy or build an AR pistol. Then register on ATF e-forms, and file a Form 1. Look for an engraver. In about 30 days, you'll receive your approval, get your gun engraved with the name of the builder (either you or your gun trust (recommended), then slap a stock on that bad boy. Instant SBR.
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Good for you. I've many friends in the CDL area and my son is living in Rathdrum. He got a promotion and transfer to Kentucky. Ill be helping him move. I work seasonally in Pingree and love it. PAX
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Your second mission is to buy or build an AR pistol. Then register on ATF e-forms, and file a Form 1. Look for an engraver. In about 30 days, you'll receive your approval, get your gun engraved with the name of the builder (either you or your gun trust (recommended), then slap a stock on that bad boy. Instant SBR.

Sounds like a good plan. Thanks I'll get on it as soon as I arrive.
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Good for you. I've many friends in the CDL area and my son is living in Rathdrum. He got a promotion and transfer to Kentucky. Ill be helping him move. I work seasonally in Pingree and love it. PAX
Thanks, I'm excited about it. Yeah, my son loves Couer d'Alene he'll be there working part of the summer, so I'll probably see him in August.

Congrats to your son for the promotion, and Kentucky is pretty gun friendly and free too.

Thank you for your service.
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Welcome to Coeur D' Fornia... Opt for the "wildlife" plates, since the "K" plates always tip everyone off that you've come from californeeya.
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Your second mission is to buy or build an AR pistol. Then register on ATF e-forms, and file a Form 1. Look for an engraver. In about 30 days, you'll receive your approval, get your gun engraved with the name of the builder (either you or your gun trust (recommended), then slap a stock on that bad boy. Instant SBR.
Why would anyone purposely register a pistol as SBR? Make no sense to me.
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Why would anyone purposely register a pistol as SBR? Make no sense to me.
First, it depends on the pistol. Let's say you want to compete in a steel challenge match using a Sig MPX pistol. You can't - unless you register it as an SBR and slap a stock on it. Then it qualifies as a pistol caliber carbine. I used this example because the fastest times shot at our steel challenge matches are either shot with a .22 (SBR, rifle or carbine) or a 9mm SBR usually an MPX. They are much faster and more accurate than a pistol.

Second, most LEOs can't tell the difference between a brace and a stock. So, if you have a braced pistol in your possession, don't be surprised if the first question is "do you have the paperwork for that SBR." Good luck when you answer "no." (FYI, the ATF has offered opinions in criminal cases that braced pistols are unregistered SBRs for local LEOS. So like I said, good luck with that.)

Third, to the extent that you are talking about an AR with no brace, I'd point you to my first argument, i.e., they are much quicker and more accurate with a stock. However, if that doesn't matter to you, I'm agree with you that there is no reason to register it. But when you hang a 1lb or more suppressor off the end, you may decide that you do indeed need that stock.

Finally, there is the simple fact that the ATF cannot make its mind up as to whether braces are legal or illegal or whether you can shoulder them or not. And, if you find the letter that ATF sent to SB tactical, you will find references to the cases in which ATF agents testified in criminal cases that braced pistols = illegal SBRs. So I'm not willing to risk up to 10 years in club fed and $500,000 fine over a $200 tax. Apparently I'm not alone because hundreds of people file Form 1's to do this every day.

So my question to you is, why wouldn't you register a braced AR Pistol as an SBR if you could legally do so?
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My question was of a basic nature in that if the ATF is allowing AR pistol braces in whole, then it is a pistol no different than a Glock 17. Until they produce a regulation, the law is not established and thus, not a crime. One guys opinion in court is not in sum, tantamount to a national standing.

So my thought was if it’s legal as a pistol, it’s more desirable and less intrusive to leave it as such, without injecting bureaucracy into your life.
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OP is the last person you should say this to. You should be happy to get another "free" American to reinforce the redoubt. "Free" states need as much help as they can get right now. The libtard socialist cancers from demtard states have metastasized.

Congrats OP. Enjoy freedom while it lasts. CA may just be the canary in the coal mine.
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Ouch, and i was hoping to get mine by June... looks more like October.

I just make my own suppressors my last approval only took 2 weeks. But I hear they are taking a month or so now...
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I just make my own suppressors my last approval only took 2 weeks. But I hear they are taking a month or so now...

I’ve had one in jail for 3 months now.... tick, tock , tick, tock, tick....
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Just a warning to Idaho, especially N. Idaho; I'll be moving up there in July...LOL.

I'm tired of you guys bragging about freedom, and guns you can own, and Constitutional carry, etc. So, I'm moving up to see what all the fuss is about.

I decided on the North mainly because after making three trips to Idaho I found a nice house that met our needs at a ridiculously high price, but doable and much less than our California house.

We were lucky to stumble across this place not on the market yet, nice homes at a decent price are hard to find right now in Idaho.

Anyway, looking forward to being an Idahoan.
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I took the enhanced class at Center Target Sports in Post Falls. All of their April 2021 classes are full, as is the May 1st class. From what I understand, LegalHeat offers enhanced classes in CDA. I have no idea what range(s) they use. Also check with the Sheriff for times that you can submit your application and be printed.
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Speaking of Post Falls, as soon as you can, you need to check out the Antique Gun Shoppe & Military Items there. It's too boss. PAX
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How does the K on license plates make you look from CA??? I am a commercial driver and at a minimum, 60% of all the plates I see have the “K” at the beginning...
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How does the K on license plates make you look from CA??? I am a commercial driver and at a minimum, 60% of all the plates I see have the “K” at the beginning...
Idaho uses a prefix at the beginning of “regular” vehicle plates to show in what county the vehicle was registered. 1A is Ada county; K for Kootenai county, etc.
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My point exactly. How does the K make you look like a CA refugee?
Depends on the plate number. If it is over 68,000, there is probably a 98% chance you are from another state and more people are escaping from CA to ID than from any other state. On the other hand, as long as you are a gun person and do not bring liberal/progressive views with you, being an refugee/escapee from CA is a good thing.
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So my question to you is, why wouldn't you register a braced AR Pistol as an SBR if you could legally do so?
I realize that you didn't ask me - but I'm going to say why I won't...

If I make my pistol an SBR, then I'll require ATF approval every time I want to cross state lines with it. Where I live, it's 4 miles to the state line and most of the places I shoot are on the other side of it..

Maybe I want to get fuel or some food or supplies on the way to go shooting. Since town sits on the state line, I'd be severely limited to where I could shop with an SBR in my vehicle (assuming I'd not filed a written request with the ATF to travel across the state line).

I'll stick with the brace, and YES - I carry the ATF approval letter with any such firearm at all times.
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How does the K on license plates make you look from CA??? I am a commercial driver and at a minimum, 60% of all the plates I see have the “K” at the beginning...
I was wondering the same thing.....lot's of native Idahoans with K plates.
K does not equal Kalifornian.
And congrats OP, you lucked out finding a house. We slid in, Indiana Jones style under the door, just in time before houses were being overbid.
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Where did you find a house at?
I'd rather not say for now. 35 minutes above down town CDA. BTW the traffic kinda sucks around CDA.

I think I mentioned that I feel very fortunate to have, almost literally, stumbled into a great house. My agent is well connected in the area and knows someone who has a client that just decided to sell their house and build one closer to their parents.

We moved to sign almost immediately. With a contingency for our inspection. We were there two days later and it more than met our expectations.

WE ONLY LOOKED AT THREE HOUSES.

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I was wondering the same thing.....lot's of native Idahoans with K plates.
K does not equal Kalifornian.
And congrats OP, you lucked out finding a house. We slid in, Indiana Jones style under the door, just in time before houses were being overbid.
You did it right! Got in before the rush.

We really weren't free/ready. I'd been talking about ID for 10 years.
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Depends on the plate number. If it is over 68,000, there is probably a 98% chance you are from another state and more people are escaping from CA to ID than from any other state. On the other hand, as long as you are a gun person and do not bring liberal/progressive views with you, being an refugee/escapee from CA is a good thing.
I'm standing in my driveway talking to my agent and wife (in CA) when my neighbor came over and asked if I was selling my house. I've known these folks for a longtime, can't stand most of them. I told him, I'm moving to Idaho to get away from all you F'ing Democrats that have ruined my State. I was pretty rude, but we were in the middle of a business conversation.

Maybe I should buy an old truck with ID plates? Just kidding.
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I realize that you didn't ask me - but I'm going to say why I won't...

If I make my pistol an SBR, then I'll require ATF approval every time I want to cross state lines with it. Where I live, it's 4 miles to the state line and most of the places I shoot are on the other side of it..

Maybe I want to get fuel or some food or supplies on the way to go shooting. Since town sits on the state line, I'd be severely limited to where I could shop with an SBR in my vehicle (assuming I'd not filed a written request with the ATF to travel across the state line).

I'll stick with the brace, and YES - I carry the ATF approval letter with any such firearm at all times.
Hi, yeah. I will probably have a braced pistol (provided Biden hasn't killed them) and an SBR.
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Idaho uses a prefix at the beginning of “regular” vehicle plates to show in what county the vehicle was registered. 1A is Ada county; K for Kootenai county, etc.

Arrrg! The dreaded K. Well, can I buy a truck and register in another County? LOL

Wildlife plates?????

How about this plate? H8 CAL Would this stop the bullets from whizzing past my car? LOL
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By the way, you cali expats need to get over this stigma about being from cali. You have as much right to be here as anyone else. You might hear grousing from long-term residents about driving up house prices, but they sure didn't complain about the money you paid!
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...By the way, you cali expats need to get over this stigma about being from cali. You have as much right to be here as anyone else. You might hear grousing from long-term residents about driving up house prices, but they sure didn't complain about the money you paid!
I have yet to run into anyone, who gave off any kind of negative vibe about coming from CA, and as you get around, I have found there's a lot of ex-CA already here, 9, 18, 27 years! So, some may have had different experiences, but the natives have been very friendly to us, knock on wood!
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Gentlemen,

ELK or TROUT?
I say trout. My daughter just got her plates for her new car POT8OS. I asked her why she didn't get the potato vanity plate and go full potato. She said it was another $60/yr for it. I just re-registered my wife's Excursion 4x4 diesel, $90/yr for reg and State Park yearly pass. Last reg in CA was over $350. And no smog in ID. Full coverage insurance on both vehicles, 1/2 the cost of CA.
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Old 04-08-2021, 5:16 PM
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I say trout. My daughter just got her plates for her new car POT8OS. I asked her why she didn't get the potato vanity plate and go full potato. She said it was another $60/yr for it. I just re-registered my wife's Excursion 4x4 diesel, $90/yr for reg and State Park yearly pass. Last reg in CA was over $350. And no smog in ID. Full coverage insurance on both vehicles, 1/2 the cost of CA.
I was like $280, for 2 years, with park pass, for a 21' Ford SD truck, crazy! Called Allstate today and changed address, Ins dropped $4k for the year! My wife loves ID more every day.
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SpudsBad

Maybe.
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OP is the last person you should say this to. You should be happy to get another "free" American to reinforce the redoubt. "Free" states need as much help as they can get right now. The libtard socialist cancers from demtard states have metastasized.

Congrats OP. Enjoy freedom while it lasts. CA may just be the canary in the coal mine.
Thanks, I'll do what I can to keep Idaho FREE.
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