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Alameda County: Is Homelessness A Good Cause?
I just read that the homeless population has spiked 40% in Alameda county. Here in Fremont there have been numerous attacks on people in malls. One lady was attacked and hit on the head with a pipe so they could steal her purse. Another person was held at gunpoint at an ATM. Home invasion robberies and home breakins. There's no doubt that crime is on the uptick.
Any chance I can use the homeless arguement for GC and have a shot (don't laugh) at getting a CCW in Alameda county? Finally if I were to apply and my CCW application was denied because they didn't agree with my reason, could the denial harm me in any way? |
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FWIW SCOTUS will probably take at least one 2nd A case next fall. Some here (me included) think the odds are good they'll make a decision that will liberalize CCW issuance in CA before 2020 July 01.
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Acc to this article, on 2018 July 01 there were 186 Ala Co CCWs. https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local...232198382.html
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Can you share with us an idea of what your GC was like?
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If you know, can you share with us a rough idea of what their GC was like?
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Good morning everyone. Thank you to Paladin for reaching out to me directly - have not been checking this thread in some time. I actually have left California and moved to Texas over the last year.
The Alameda County SO takes the time to review your good cause during the initial application. Many people who have their CCW license work as County employees or work with the Sheriff. A lot of other folks are business owners who deal in large amounts of CASH - landlords, vending machine owners, etc. |
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Re. CCWs: How does working as county employee help them? I mean, if I'm an IT guy working as a consultant for a private business vs working for the county or sheriff, I don't see how the latter gives me greater GC. Or when you say "county employees" are you talking about judges, DAs and prosecutors/public defenders? If so, they apply for different CCWs, 3-year "Judicial" CCWs. When you say "work with the Sheriff," are you talking about reserve officers? If so, they apply for different CCWs, 4-year "Reserve" CCWs. The only ones we care about are for "normal" people who apply for 2-year standard CCWs. Besides landlords and vending machine owners, do you know what Good Causes are sufficient for getting issued 2-year CCWs? As for landlords and vending machine owners, carrying what amount of cash qualifies: $1,000? $5,000? $10,000? more???
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Thank you. It might happen one day, then it might not happen.
I met a MD who helped the sheriff as a medical prosecution witness. He had his CCW. Met another guy as a PI. Met a guy who was a mortician. There is no real prescription for a guaranteed good cause in Alameda County. BUT cash amounts appear to be a good one. I would say over $1000. I had to provide deposit receipts |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2PoSljk8cE A reminder for folks: when Suture1 says >$1,000 cash he means cash, not >$1,000 worth of work equipment, which may only be worth $300 - 400 when sold as used & stolen. So, if you want to use the value of something else, think of how much it would go for stolen, not how much you paid for it new, or will have to pay to replace it. Then you can use that multiplier to use to see if you've got sufficient GC.
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240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives. Last edited by Paladin; 01-03-2020 at 8:27 PM.. |
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Alameda County -- CCW Issued/process/insights/experiences
Hello All,
Recently, I was issued a CCW in Alameda; enclosed you’ll find specific experiences and insights. I hope it helps for those thinking about applying in Alameda County. TL;DR it’s possible, I just received mine and the enclosed are my personal views / experiences /insights. Time frame: ~ 11 months from application submission (online) to CCW issuance to me (ie card in my hand). This should could have been completed sooner, however I was traveling and deferred certain dates (eg range qualification etc by ~ 2 months). Upon completing the range qualification, a formal letter with the decision is sent via USPS and you schedule a followup appointment for the CCW card to be created / issued (same location as the interview referenced below) upon completing all facets / background checks / the process Insights to various parts of the process: The ACSO site covers / outlines the steps in detail. https://www.alamedacountysheriff.org/admin_ia_ccw.php
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Feel free to reach out directly. We have a couple small businesses. Without releasing identities from class / range qualification.. there were small Business owners. As for good cause, there’s frameworks / templates .. mine was ~ 2 paragraphs long
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Did they say only owners making deposits, or could managers who make those business deposits also qualify?
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Alameda County received 103 new applications in 2017 and 2018 and granted 64 of them. Also, 227 permits were renewed and, as of this month, there were 259 active licensees countywide, records show. Sheriff’s spokesman Sgt. Ray Kelly noted that requests for information about concealed weapons permits are quite common.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/11/...d-gun-permits/ |
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thanks for sharing the enclosed data.
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mandatory Psych Eval still required
(1) the Ala Co SO's own CCW info at: https://www.alamedacountysheriff.org/admin_ia_ccw.php (2) the Ala Co SO's CCW Info Permitium webpage at: https://alamedaca.permitium.com/ccw/start (3) the Ala Co SO's first page of the Permitium application at: https://alamedaca.permitium.com/ccw/...permittype=new Since I was just going off of memory, I thought I'd search around to see if there's a copy of Ahern's CCW Policy somewhere else showing a mandatory Psych Eval and I found Hayward PD host a .pdf document of Ala Co SO's CCW Policy showing a mandatory $150 Psych Eval as requirement for all applicants. See point #5 on p. 1, "Personal Suitability" at top of p.3 and $150 fee listed in chart on p.5 at: https://www.hayward-ca.gov/sites/def...W%20Policy.pdf So, my memory was correct. Dropping the mandatory psych eval may have just been a mistake by their IT guy (highly unlikely), or it could be intentional and indicating Ahern sees the writing on the wall and is streamlining his CCW process to head off pro 2nd A public activism after we win some Carry cases at SCOTUS and/or CA9. If that is true, his next step (which he may have taken already for all I know), would be liberalizing his GC requirement. Either way, assuming this is all legit, dropping the mandatory Psych Eval is good news saving law-abiding, hard working applicants $150 and a wasted workday. "Shall" take a Psych Eval is still in General Order 1.04 in CCW Policy.
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Regardless, Ala Co is Light Red. Compare what passes in Light Red counties to the best GC you can muster. How? That's already been answered: Quote:
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ACSO's CCW policy is posted online!
Thanks to the passage of SB978 "Law Enforcement agencies: public records" (now PC Title 4.7 Section 13650), as of 2020 Jan 01 all CA LEAs are required to put all their policies online, and this includes their CCW policies. "[T]he written Alameda County Sheriff's Office CCW Policy" is General Order 1.04 (9 pages long), and you can find it by going to:
https://www.alamedacountysheriff.org/policies.php and from there: ACSO -> ACSO General Orders -> Ch. 1: LE Role, etc. -> 1.04 GO "Concealed Weapon License" Ain't "open government" great! ETA: Looking over the CCW Policy (GO 1.04), it appears that no fees are collected until AFTER a GC determination. (IOW applying is FREE if you end up getting denied for lack of GC.) Also, it appears a Psych Eval is mandatory. Probably the state law max. of $150
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Alameda Co *maybe* Yellow!
We've gotten some information that indicates Ala Co may be Yellow on the CA CCW GC map. To understand what that means, what sort of GCs have a solid chance of succeeding, read post #31 at: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1482924 (copied below)
If you have a GC that fits in #9 to 12 AND can afford to waste the time, money and effort of applying only to get denied, give it a try. (Looking over the sheriff's CCW Policy (https://www.alamedacountysheriff.org/policies.php ACSO -> ACSO General Orders -> Ch. 1: LE Role, etc. -> 1.04 GO "Concealed Weapon License"), it appears that you do NOT pay any fees until after a GC determination. Ask to make sure. Also, the Policy indicates that a Psych Eval is mandatory. That's usually the max allowed by law, $150, but I think it's after your GC was approved. Again, just ask.) Please post in this thread and let us know how it goes after you're issued or denied. (Or at least PM me.) We'll use your feedback to determine whether Ala Co should be changed on the map to yellow. If you have a GC that fits in #13, 14 or 15, you should apply because you're most likely to get issued. Quote:
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I applied under #15 with the following:
-Repeated documented threats of physical harm from a should be, but likely is not, "prohibited" (no police report, screen caps from a screen) -Individuals who could attest to the truth of the threats -Provided references from people in the Bay Area (locals, can you believe it!?) Outcome: -Verbal "likely denial" over the phone which meant I could redact my application for refund. I am guessing that if you go to the interview and are denied then you likely are charged still for the application. -Was told I would need a Restraining Order in place before these threats would be considered sufficient and once the Restraining Order lapsed my permit would be denied upon renewal. FWIW, I also do not see their target shooting rules online yet which I thought was required under a new law. |
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If you (or someone else) do call her, also ask about (1) how long from app submission to GC determination and, if accepted, (2) how long from then until permit issued (typically, assuming no problems). Thanks!
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I will not try again until we get a carry case up in SCOTUS or I will try if I see the cracks forming near the ruling of said case. |
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I spoke w/Ms. Mulder (510) 208-9890 and she said it usually takes ~3-4 months to get a GC decision making for a full year for time from app to issued permit, assuming no hiccups. (Then they deny you since you obviously didn't need a CCW for a year... LOL!) There are delays due to backups in setting Psych Eval and range test dates.
She mentioned that if you apply via current online process you pay more fees in total and fees at the beginning of the process whereas if you apply using paper app, IIRC, you can get a GC determination prior to most (all?) fees. Best to verify that with her. (My ballpoint got gummed up while I was taking notes (oil or wax on the paper?), so I'm operating mostly off of memory. If you do apply, you should verify everything anyway in case I made a mistake or things change.) Re. range test: that info isn't and won't be on the web. IMO, those are usually no big deal. Just get competent with your handguns. Then, most likely, approved trainers for your training course & cert. will know and tell you details about the range test. Don't worry, you won't have to be "Jelly" Bryce.... There's only 5 months left in this term for SCOTUS. If not this term, then next term we should win a "Right to Bear Arms" that "Shall Not be Infringed." Since Sheriff Ahern doesn't want a bunch of CCW permit holders in his county as seen by his restrictive GC policy, he'll have a bunch of LOCers in his county and deputies run ragged responding to "man with a gun" calls. As cops say, "We can do this the easy way or the hard way. The choice is up to you."
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Anyone with a "yellow" Good Cause (see post 619 above), try applying with Ala. Co SO? If so, how'd it go? (You can PM me if you prefer.) From my discussions w/their CCW rep, it sounds like you have a solid chance with "yellow" GC.
You pay NOTHING prior to a Good Cause decision. You pay for and do the Psych Eval only after your GC has been approved.
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Alameda Co has been updated to Yellow on the CA CCW GC map. With proof, they said they’d accept all the listed Yellow GCs except residing in rural area. (They say you can carry at home. But that ignores your special vulnerability while in transit.)
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A CGNer wanted to share this:
Interview lasts ~45 min. It’s audio recorded. Asks regarding safe storage, who lives with you, how often you got to the range and more. It’s relaxed and friendly discussion. GC must work it’s way up levels before final approval by the sheriff. Allow a year from submitting application to issuance of permit.
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Recent ACSO CCW Applicant
I recently put my application in to ACSO for my CCW. My good cause was approved related to services I provide to the county.
So far wait times seem to be relatively short, I got my psych evaluation done 90 days from application submission. Now I am just waiting on a letter to schedule my range date. The process so far has been fair, I didin't feel like I was ever lead in the wrong direction. Just be honest and everything should go smooth. |
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It is interesting they require documented threat, funny it will be too late by then...
". Applicants must show evidence that (1) there is a documented, presently existing, clear and present danger to life, or great bodily harm to the applicant and/or his or her spouse, domestic partner, or dependents, (2) the danger of harm is specific to the applicant, or his or her immediate family, and is not generally shared by other similarly situated members of the public, (3) existing law enforcement resources cannot adequately address the danger of harm, (4) the danger of harm cannot reasonably be avoided by alternative measures, and (5) licensing the applicant to carry a concealed weapon is likely to significantly reduce the danger of harm." |
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Glad to see Alameda move to yellow. It has been red as long as I can remember. Hope it moves to a shade of green someday. Being a tech worker who live in Alameda County but works on the peninsula doesn't get me very far in the GCs department. Would love to apply, but will wait it out for now until something changes.
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Dunno I don't believe they will be helpful. I saw where during the asian violence in oakland a woman was hit by a car of criminals attempting to steal her camera etc. Once the struggle started a ccw holder came out of his business and fired off not hitting anyone / anything. So they arrested him not the perps. All of the politicians rhetoric of stopping violence against asians and then they do this, it's glaringly clear they really don't care about the safety of the individual. It's sad and disgusting.
If you do manage to get one and god forbid you have to use it you will be arrested immediately and my guess is the DA will take a big **** on you. They just announced the Berkeley officer stopping the robbery at cvs who fired at the car when the perps refused to comply and tried to take off she was fired. There is no interest in this area of making things safe. Last edited by Casoobaru; 03-31-2021 at 11:19 AM.. |
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