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Old 03-12-2020, 3:14 PM
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ATF to shut down due to coronavirus????
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Old 03-18-2020, 8:34 PM
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Old 03-18-2020, 8:39 PM
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Old 03-18-2020, 8:55 PM
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There was talk, now with everything shutting down who really knows.
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Old 03-20-2020, 8:29 AM
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Hey all
A LGS said that they are suspending new firearm sales and only doing PPT.
Can anybody chime in on whether the ATF is prohibiting new sales, or if this is just an LGS descision?
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That's likely NOT an ATF directive, that's more than likely CA DOJ.

I have not heard from ANY licensee in the country that the ATF is shutting anyone down.

More to the point, the ATF people that CAN shut down licensee's are IOI's and - ALL OF THEM ARE WORKING FROM HOME RIGHT NOW.

So how the hell is an IOI going to go door to door shutting down FFL's when they've been ordered to stay at home?
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They aren’t suspending new firearm sales, they are out of guns to sell lol
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They aren’t suspending new firearm sales, they are out of guns to sell lol
This. I work at a shop part-time and we were cleaned out. I haven't heard anything from DOJ or ATF about suspending sales. A lot of shops just have nothing left to sell.
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That's likely NOT an ATF directive, that's more than likely CA DOJ.

I have not heard from ANY licensee in the country that the ATF is shutting anyone down.

More to the point, the ATF people that CAN shut down licensee's are IOI's and - ALL OF THEM ARE WORKING FROM HOME RIGHT NOW.

So how the hell is an IOI going to go door to door shutting down FFL's when they've been ordered to stay at home?
Any orders would be county by county as it is based on the county health department and the orders vary by county.

I have talked to a person I know at the DOJ and it isn't from there. I haven't heard from the BATF, but they wouldn't have to personally go to the business, they could call, it doesn't have to be door to door, but if anyone says that they are going door to door, that is a sure sign that it is fake.
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Madera County Sheriff declared on Friday that Firearm sales/repair are considered an essential business so we are still open and taking orders in Coarsegold.
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FYI, I was told from a reliable source that the BATF isn't suspending firearms sales, the BATF isn't shutdown, most are working from home, but some are still going in. In other words, they are still operating, although perhaps a bit differently. I don't know if the BATF is doing it or not, but it is possible to forward the phone to a home phone or cell phone, so the regular numbers might work, I know that others are doing that.
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This is Outdoor Limited when did this happen???
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Added note:

As to the BATF shutting down, elsewhere a FFL reported that the BATF contacted him to do an inspection, which was done, although by alternate means as the FFL didn't want anyone coming in, so it was done by means of the internet and phone cameras. So the BATF is still in operation.

This was sent out by the BATF:

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This is an important message from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Pursuant to California Safety and Health Code Section 120295, all non-essential businesses have been directed to close during the COVID19 pandemic. Licensees can visit their city or county websites in order to determine whether your business is subject to closure. In the event that your city or county has designated FFL businesses as non-essential, and you are suspending operations, please take prudent measures to ensure the safekeeping of firearms, ammunition, and records. As a reminder, report all suspicious persons or activity to your local police department. Additionally, notify A T F at 888-930-9275 if you find any of your firearms lost, missing, or stolen.
Read carefully what it says and what it doesn't say. It doesn't say that the BATF is shutting anything down. It also confirms that FFLs have to contact their local city or county website to determine whether any close order applies to them, which that there is NO directive or order from the BATF.This also shows that the determination as to whether a FFL is essential varies (which shouldn't be the case).
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