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Old 02-10-2019, 1:28 AM
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Hi Fellas,

I've got a Santa Fe 03-A3.
I've picked up a Remington 03-A3 sport job for dirt and want to swap receivers.

Are the barrels/receiver's matched numerically?
Is it a difficult change out for the pro smith?

Thanks, PAX
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I guess the barrel on the Remington is worse than the other one, otherwise you wouldn't be doing this.

The barrels on the Remington are dated, but not serial numbered. Naturally you would expect the receiver and barrel on an original rifle to be manufactured within a month or two of each other. My receiver is numbered 4001xxx with an estimated date of manufacture of Sept-Oct 1943. The barrel which is also made by Remington is dated 9-43, which agrees closely enough.

The list I use whenever I have a question like this is at http://www.vishooter.net/ra_serialization.txt.

For a professional gunsmith this should be a snap. But why not see if you can buy a better condition Remington barrel with a close enough date?

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Old 02-10-2019, 8:37 AM
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I am assuming you want to change out the Santa Fe receiver for a USGI one?
Most likely yes. If either receiver/barrel combination passes the ordnance test bolt procedure, then it is very likely that they will swap and headspace correctly, or worst case you will need to find a bolt that headspaces.

I have extensive experience with these guns and can help you if you need it.
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Old 02-10-2019, 10:49 AM
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I am assuming you want to change out the Santa Fe receiver for a USGI one?
Most likely yes. If either receiver/barrel combination passes the ordnance test bolt procedure, then it is very likely that they will swap and headspace correctly, or worst case you will need to find a bolt that headspaces.

I have extensive experience with these guns and can help you if you need it.
That would be correct kd. The investment cast receiver is sketchy material.

I have both rifles complete, so there's 2 bolts to start with. I'll PM you.

You're within stinking distance to check to see if either receiver/barrel combination passes the ordnance test bolt procedure. PAX
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I guess the barrel on the Remington is worse than the other one, otherwise you wouldn't be doing this.
The barrels on the Remington are dated, but not serial numbered. Naturally you would expect the receiver and barrel on an original rifle to be manufactured within a month or two of each other. My receiver is numbered 4001xxx with an estimated date of manufacture of Sept-Oct 1943. The barrel which is also made by Remington is dated 9-43, which agrees closely enough.
The list I use whenever I have a question like this is at http://www.vishooter.net/ra_serialization.txt.
For a professional gunsmith this should be a snap. But why not see if you can buy a better condition Remington barrel with a close enough date?
The Sport job is a fine rifle, built back in the day from an 03-A3. It's got a cut down barrel and HAD a hooded ramp front sight, nice furniture. I got it for dirt, for the receiver. Receivers are around, but $$. I waited 5 years for the right price. It's a salvage project as the Sante Fe receivers are no good.

I picked up a Smith-Corona rifle for the same reason, but it's so well made, I couldn't destroy it. PAX

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echo1 ken built me a 1903 that I always wanted. it is my favorite rifle. He has also done the smithing on all my f/class rifles, old school craftsmanship at a fair price. Couldnt be happier with all the work he has done for me!
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echo1 ken built me a 1903 that I always wanted. it is my favorite rifle. He has also done the smithing on all my f/class rifles, old school craftsmanship at a fair price. Couldnt be happier with all the work he has done for me!
We're on the books to "get-er-done"...sometime. It's been 5 or 6 years in the making, but now I've got the parts and the people in place. It's been a waste having that Sante Fe receiver. It's gonna be sweet. PAX
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