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Old 02-04-2019, 10:02 AM
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The unpredictable SC could reverse all of this in one decision. I would be very nervous about that.
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The unpredictable SC could reverse all of this in one decision. I would be very nervous about that.
Reverse what? Constitutional Carry is legislation passed by the states. Even if SCOTUS says public carry isn't protected at all, these laws still stand.
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Old 02-11-2019, 9:21 PM
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Kentucky: Constitutional Carry Legislation to be Heard

Update: The hearing for SB 150 has been rescheduled to February 14th.

On February 11th, Senate Bill 150 was introduced to ensure that any law-abiding adult who may legally possess a firearm may carry a handgun for self-defense without first having to go through government red tape. SB 150 is scheduled to be heard in the Kentucky state Senate Veterans, Military Affairs, & Public Protection Committee on February 12th 14th. Please contact committee members and urge them to SUPPORT Senate Bill 150. Click the “Take Action” button to contact committee members.

Senate Bill 150, sponsored by Senator Brandon Smith (R-30), would recognize a law-abiding citizen’s unconditional Right to Keep and Bear Arms for self-defense in the manner they choose. Self-defense situations are difficult, if not impossible, to anticipate. Accordingly, a law-abiding adult’s right to defend himself or herself in such situations should not be conditioned by government-mandated time delays and taxes.

Again, please click the “Take Action” button above to contact committee members and urge them to SUPPORT Senate Bill 150.
From: https://www.nraila.org/articles/2019...on-to-be-heard
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Oklahoma: Constitutional Carry Legislation to Receive House Vote This Week

On Wednesday, the Oklahoma House of Representatives is scheduled to vote on constitutional carry legislation, House Bill 2597. Please contact your state Representative and strongly urge them to SUPPORT House Bill 2597 when it comes up for a vote.

House Bill 2597, would recognize the right of law-abiding Oklahoma residents to Keep and Bear Arms for self-defense in the manner he or she chooses. Self-defense situations are difficult, if not impossible, to anticipate. Accordingly, law-abiding adults’ right to defend themselves in such situations should not be conditioned by government-mandated time delays and taxes.

Again, please contact your state Representative and urge them to SUPPORT House Bill 2597.
From: https://www.nraila.org/articles/2019...vote-this-week
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Old 02-11-2019, 9:29 PM
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A bill that would eliminate the requirement to obtain a permit to buy or carry a gun in Iowa has been moved out of a Senate subcommittee.

The two Republicans agreed Monday to pass it up to the Senate Judiciary Committee. Democrat Sen. Tony Bisignano declined to recommend moving the bill forward due to safety concerns.

Bisignano says he disagrees with allowing the sale of handguns at gun shows and person-to-person with no permit or background check. He says eliminating the permit also does away with the requirement for gun holders to take a safety course.

The Senate bill has the support of 15 senators, the National Rifle Association, the Iowa Firearms Coalition and Iowa Gun Owners groups.

It's opposed by Catholic, Methodist and Episcopal church groups along with domestic violence and gun safety organizations.

Supporters say requiring permits and fees to own a gun contradicts the constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

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Thumbs up OK House passes Constitutional Carry, now goes to Senate

The Oklahoma House passed their version of a Constitutional Carry bill and sent it over to the Senate. The Senate’s version is still in committee.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/loca...b7d02c72c.html


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https://www.foxnews.com/us/oklahoma-...ars-house-vote

Oklahoma was 70-30 in the house. That's pretty good.

Iowa is also great news. I suspect there will be more of a push to pass constitutional carry after the attorney general ****ed up the constitutional amendment process.
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Thumbs up Kentucky: Constitutional Carry passed by Senate, now goes to House

Well, that went fast! Not only did this KY senate committee hear and pass it today, but it was heard and passed by the entire KY senate!

Onto the KY House's committee, then House floor vote and then to their governor.



https://www.nraila.org/articles/2019...al-carry-today

Passed Senate: https://www.nraila.org/articles/2019...n-to-the-house
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Well, that went fast! Not only did this KY senate committee hear and pass it today, but it was heard and passed by the entire KY senate!

Onto the KY House's committee, then floor vote and then to their governor.



https://www.nraila.org/articles/2019...al-carry-today

Passed Senate: https://www.nraila.org/articles/2019...n-to-the-house
Woah, that was quick. I am very surprised because the last 4-5 years of CC bill in Kentucky have been more for show than anything. They typically didn't get much movement just like SC.
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Woah, that was quick. I am very surprised because the last 4-5 years of CC bill in Kentucky have been more for show than anything. They typically didn't get much movement just like SC.
KY would be a nice win. If you look at the map, if it turns light green, it will connect WV with the midwestern Con Carry states. It will also put pressure on IN to the north and TN to the south to get serious about passing Con Carry.

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Thumbs up OK and KY governors pro-Constitutional Carry

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Jennifer Baker, a spokeswoman for the National Rifle Association, told ABC News that in passing the law in South Dakota, it "became the the fourteenth state to enact this common sense measure allowing law-abiding citizens to exercise their fundamental right to self-protection in the manner that best suits their needs."

"The NRA has constitutional carry bills moving through the Kentucky and Oklahoma legislatures where both governors have committed to sign the bills into law," Baker said.
More at: https://abcnews.go.com/US/active-sho...ry?id=61107650
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I like how she grabbed "common sense" back from the antis...
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I like how she grabbed "common sense" back from the antis...
Yes, use their phrases against them :-)
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Thumbs up Oklahoma: CC passes Senate Cmte

All it needs to do is pass the full Senate, then it goes to the Oklahoma governor who has said he'd sign it.

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A bill allowing for permitless carry in Oklahoma passed in a Senate committee Wednesday morning after passing the full House last week.

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On Wednesday, the measure passed the Senate appropriations committee by a vote of 18-4. There was no debate on either side.

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The bill now moves to the full Senate.
More at: https://kfor.com/2019/02/20/proposed...ate-committee/
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Just saw Rand Paul tweeting in support of KY SB 150 and Constitutional Carry! Let’s get one more win!


https://twitter.com/randpaul/status/...041358848?s=21
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With an overwhelming Repub advantage, I'm betting OK Senate passes it....



I'm also betting the KY House, with a 3:2 Repub advantage, passes it.

IOW, we should have 2 more Con Carry states soon.
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Senator Gerald Allen (R-Tuscaloosa) is working to translate the promise of the state Constitutional amendment into law. He says he will keep on filing Constitutional Carry bills until one is passed.

In 2017, the Alabama Senate passed a Constitutional Carry bill, SB2, 26-8. In 2018, SB3 died in committee.

In January of 2019, Senator Allen pre-filed SB4, which is the fourth attempt to pass Constitutional Carry in Alabama.

Some commenters at appleseedinfo.org have claimed the problem is with the Alabama Sheriff's association. Sheriffs in Alabama administer the issuance of concealed carry permits.

In the state of Alabama, concealed carry permits are issued at the county level. Sheriff's have discretion over how much they charge for the permits. By law, funds received for CC permits are collected by the sheriff & retained by him. They are not part of his normal budget. They go into a discretionary fund and the sheriff has sole authority over it. He can buy body armor or he can buy beer for an office picnic.

The Alabama Sheriff's Association has fought this for a long time with histrionic predictions of blood in the streets.

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Alabama has a short legislative session, to limit the damage the legislature can do. This year it starts on the first Tuesday in March, and meets for a maximum of 30 days with a session limit of 105 calendar days. Alabama has a Republican Governor. Republicans have strong majorities in the Senate and in the House.

Constitutional Carry has strong support in the Alabama legislature. The Sheriffs Association also has strong support.

Senator Allen says he has the votes to pass SB4 in the Senate.

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Constitutional Carry will pass in Alabama when supporters of the bill overcome the opposition of the Alabama Sheriff's Association.
More at: https://www.ammoland.com/2019/02/ala...carry-in-2019/
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A little bird told me ConCarry may start moving in TX in March....
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Foster said his permit arrived after eight weeks and on the same day of the attempted robbery.

"Had it happened a day earlier, I would not have had my permit. I would not have had my handgun on me, and we'd be having a different conversation, if we were even having one," Foster said.

State Rep. Mary Margaret Oliver believes the bill would be unpopular among Georgians.

"They support more background checks, universal background checks. They do not support no background check in order to carry a gun," she said.

But Foster said he believes a right delayed is a right denied.

HB2 is still in the committee process, and similar bills like it have failed in the past.
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https://www.wsbtv.com/amp/news/local...rgia/923969997
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