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Old 01-05-2018, 9:49 AM
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They missed the boat, they were years behind the affordable working mans rifle. Not everybody wanted a 1,000 dollar Remington 700 that barely shot has well as the others if at all. Savage Axis, trophy hunter, Howa, Ruger, Weatherby Vanguard left them in the dust with people who still bought Remington's just to buy Remington's. Their first attempt at an affordable rifle was a flop, their 783's seem to be a really nice rifle. Hopefully they stick around.
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They missed the boat, they were years behind the affordable working mans rifle. Not everybody wanted a 1,000 dollar Remington 700 that barely shot has well as the others if at all. Savage Axis, trophy hunter, Howa, Ruger, Weatherby Vanguard left them in the dust with people who still bought Remington's just to buy Remington's. Their first attempt at an affordable rifle was a flop, their 783's seem to be a really nice rifle. Hopefully they stick around.


You can get a Remington 700 for $400.
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Old 01-05-2018, 12:13 PM
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You can get a Remington 700 for $400.
Recently, not in years passed. Savage is the only reason you can get a bottom end 700 for 400 bucks these days. Without Savage there would be no Ruger American either, you would still be shelling out 800-1000 for a M77.
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Recently, not in years passed. Savage is the only reason you can get a bottom end 700 for 400 bucks these days. Without Savage there would be no Ruger American either, you would still be shelling out 800-1000 for a M77.
I agree Savage has the most copied designs, too bad they won't copy Remington and bring back their bottom end 110 or Stevens 200. It's what they need to do if they want to compete with the 700 ADL. Closest thing Savage has to it now that I've seen is the Hog Hunter and it's only available in a couple calibers.
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I agree Savage has the most copied designs, too bad they won't copy Remington and bring back their bottom end 110 or Stevens 200. It's what they need to do if they want to compete with the 700 ADL. Closest thing Savage has to it now that I've seen is the Hog Hunter and it's only available in a couple calibers.


I totally agree. My Stevens 200 with a Boyd’s laminate stock is one heck of a nice 22-250. The trophy hunter when you can catch it with a rebate is a super nice rifle for the money.




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I totally agree. My Stevens 200 with a Boyd’s laminate stock is one heck of a nice 22-250. The trophy hunter when you can catch it with a rebate is a super nice rifle for the money.




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Do they make it with a hinged floor plate? I don't think they do only seen a couple models with hinged floor plate and they were price at $900 to $1000+. You can get a Remington BDL with wood stock and hinged floor plate for about $750 and it comes with sights on it too.
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I agree Savage has the most copied designs, too bad they won't copy Remington and bring back their bottom end 110 or Stevens 200. It's what they need to do if they want to compete with the 700 ADL. Closest thing Savage has to it now that I've seen is the Hog Hunter and it's only available in a couple calibers.
Isn't the Stevens 200 essentially the Savage Axis? I know the barrel is the same because I saw a youtube project where the guy used his Savage 200 barrel on his Axis.

What I've seen this year year on Savages is massive discounts and rebates to get you that "bottom end" 110 or 10. The long range hunter I've seen for half the msrp after rebate. The 12FV's I bought for $219 each retailed over $700 iirc.
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Isn't the Stevens 200 essentially the Savage Axis? I know the barrel is the same because I saw a youtube project where the guy used his Savage 200 barrel on his Axis.

What I've seen this year year on Savages is massive discounts and rebates to get you that "bottom end" 110 or 10. The long range hunter I've seen for half the msrp after rebate. The 12FV's I bought for $219 each retailed over $700 iirc.
Stevens 200 is same as old Savage 110 except the Stevens 200 had lawyer trigger and plastic stock. The old budget 110 Savage had a good adjustable trigger and birch stock.
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Do they make it with a hinged floor plate? I don't think they do only seen a couple models with hinged floor plate and they were price at $900 to $1000+. You can get a Remington BDL with wood stock and hinged floor plate for about $750 and it comes with sights on it too.
I don't think so. Mine is a blind mag. I did a timney trigger for 90 bucks and it was one sweet shooter.
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I don't think so. Mine is a blind mag. I did a timney trigger for 90 bucks and it was one sweet shooter.
That's the way my old 110 is too, but I didn't have to replace trigger because Savage still had adjustable triggers on them when I got it. They probably quit using that trigger because of Remington's trigger law suits.
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Not surprised myself. The Freedom Group made many critical mistakes with Remington and Marlin.
Too bad they don't make the single-shot H&R shotguns any more.
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Too bad they don't make the single-shot H&R shotguns any more.
Their stopping making them is definitely one of their mistakes
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Their stopping making them is definitely one of their mistakes
I liked the receivers with the matte nickel finish.
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I liked the receivers with the matte nickel finish.
Mine are all blued with wood stocks except my newest it's blued with plastic stock. It's one of the few plastic stocks I like.
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Remington made critical mistakes. They did not jump on the AR bandwagon soon enough. They could have jumped on the polymer pistol bandwagon with multiple offerings too. They missed the entire tacticool movement. They also bought Marlin and turned it into a turd. Quality declines in their own product line didn’t help either. All it takes is one political shift to put the final nail in the coffin. I don’t want them to fail, but management put them in this spot. They are unable to weather the storm.
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Side note here. Are 870s really that bad ? The one I bought in 09 has been great and reliable.
I don't know, I just ignore some of the " experts " here, I bought the despised, new Remington Express 870 middle of 2017 (see Post #59), and I am quite happy with it.......honestly, I prefer it over my supposedly superior Mossberg 590A1.

It is more refined, less clanky, easier and faster to swing, and my pet peeve, easier to take apart, clean, and maintain.
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