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Old 02-09-2018, 4:38 PM
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hello I just bought a large safe for ammo storage
and my question is should I just put a dehumidifier
Like the golden rod or put silicon gel packs in ammo cans I will also have ammo in factory boxes thank you

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not needed the bullet seals them up fine BUT ammo in a safe in a fire = BOOM
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This is an option....vented and insulated...no Kaboom! https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
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You might consider a steel cabinet like this one.

If the locks are like my cabinet, you have to lock the cabinet in order to remove the key. I reinforced mine by installing a hasp across the lock that would accept a combination lock. Nothing stops a determined thief but my arrangement slows them down. Cheaper than a safe or space in a safe, and effective enough. The cabinet isn't air tight so it won't explode if all the ammo catches fire.

As an alternative, get a wooden cabinet with shelves. It would be a bit less secure but a wooden cabinet won;t transfer heat the way a metal one will, which is why powder is supposed to be stored in wooden "powder magazines" instead of steel cabinets.
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I keep mine in a 7'x4' hazardous material cabinet....
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I use a golden rod - but there is no room in safe for ammo .
My safe had holes for bolting to floor and / or wall .
3 of the wall holes were plugged with rubber grommets and
the 4th was used for an extension cord for golden rod and a light .
I also put in a box of baking soda - it sucks up some of the
cleaning oil smell .
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I keep half of mine in a 50 gal job box with wheels. I put a rechargeable desiccant pack in it and check every month, if the color changes, I take it out and plug it in until it is good again.

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This is an option....vented and insulated...no Kaboom! https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

I would get the Liberty Ammo Can instead of that uline cabinet. Itís almost 5 cubic feet larger, and costs $200 or more less.

If thereís a concern in the case of a fire with putting ammo inside a metal safe, then we shouldnít be putting it inside metal ammo cans. I donít worry about it. Iíd rather have it inside a sealed metal can inside a heavy shielded safe than just sitting out and directly exposed if a fire breaks out.
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If you store your ammo in the safe you don't have enough guns, if ypu can store it in a steel cabinet, you dont have enough ammo.

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If you store your ammo in the safe you don't have enough guns, if ypu can store it in a steel cabinet, you dont have enough ammo.

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Safes are for guns. Closets, workshops, and garages are for ammo. Just think of all the ammo you could have bought for the price of that safe.
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If you are worried about fire , put in a sprinkler in garage
above powder .
Before I had house repiped and sprinkler installed in garage
I just ran a hose [ from water softener ] to a sprinkler .
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If you store your ammo in the safe you don't have enough guns, if ypu can store it in a steel cabinet, you dont have enough ammo.

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If you store your ammo in the safe you don't have enough guns, if ypu can store it in a steel cabinet, you dont have enough ammo.

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This is informative:

http://www.saami.org/videos/sporting...irefighter.cfm

Tests start at 2:10.

They didn't test sealed ammo cans or safes.
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I agree, store ammo in safe you don't have enough guns. If you store in cabinet, not enough ammo. My spare gun safe is where my wife goes when I go supply shopping. This prevents her from seeing what I bought until it's hidden. I use my dehumidifier rod in case she sweats.

Actually I have a wife that loves to shoot, so the more ammo the better in her eyes. Sad part she loves her own guns, so she is expensive.

I also have a progressive reloading bench. Single stage on left, Dillon 650 in the center and super 1050 in route to fill that empty spot on the right.

Guns aren't my whole life, I do eat at times.

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I agree, store ammo in safe you don't have enough guns. If you store in cabinet, not enough ammo. My spare gun safe is where my wife goes when I go supply shopping. This prevents her from seeing what I bought until it's hidden. I use my dehumidifier rod in case she sweats.

Actually I have a wife that loves to shoot, so the more ammo the better in her eyes. Sad part she loves her own guns, so she is expensive.

I also have a progressive reloading bench. Single stage on left, Dillon 650 in the center and super 1050 in route to fill that empty spot on the right.

Guns aren't my whole life, I do eat at times.

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I have plenty of ammo; lets just say less than nnn,nnn rounds, and leave it at that. I also have 3 reloading benches with ammo under them, one for a Progressive, one for a single stage plus priming, sizing and lubing, and one just for brass prep. I have cans cluttering closet floors, and the den floor, and the garage floor.

Not all of it can fit in the Liberty Ammo Can, but a lot will, and if it clearly makes it more accessible, more secure, less likely to trip over, out of the closet where itís a royal PITA to retrieve because I have to move all the household junk off the top of if, and pacifies my wife who actually wants to use the closet for a closet, then it works for me.

Iíd rather have what I can in a locked cabinet with some fire protection, than sitting out in the open.

Doesnít mean I donít have enough ammo for sure.
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I picked up an old gym wall locker at a military auction years ago pretty cheap, think I paid fifteen bucks for it.

Added a couple of lock hasps once my son was old enough to get into trouble specifically to reduce the chance of any accidents.





It can easily hold everything from M19A1 .30 cal cans to 20mm cans no problem.


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15 bucks? That was a good buy

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Almost all of mine is in a locked cabinet that's strong enough to deter casual thieves. Determined thieves can break into anything.

Indoor humidity up here is pretty stable at around 30% so a dehumidifier is unnecessary.

SAAMI did a great job with that video. If nothing else it drives home the point that a cartridge is less dangerous than some fireworks are until it's fired through a properly sized metal tube. Not that I want to duplicate their experiment at any scale, mind you.
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Safes are for guns. Closets, workshops, and garages are for ammo. Just think of all the ammo you could have bought for the price of that safe.
Well yes, but I got my fancy ammo can practically free.

It was in a department store and it wouldn't open one day.
Go figure Made In USA, must have been abused?

After the so called locksmith got done drilling and cutting the crap out of it, the store needed to replace it.
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Well yes, but I got my fancy ammo can practically free.

It was in a department store and it wouldn't open one day.
Go figure Made In USA, must have been abused?

After the so called locksmith got done drilling and cutting the crap out of it, the store needed to replace it.

Nice, that worked out well! So does it lock now? Or just for storage?


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FYI = 90% of time if you save the reciep with serial number , you can call company that made safe and they will give you a number to open with .
Pick something in house for serial number - stove , ice box , vin from car
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not needed the bullet seals them up fine BUT ammo in a safe in a fire = BOOM
It would be nearly impossible to create a potential boom condition.
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Most ammo won't care about humidity unless it's extreme and you plan to keep the ammo for many years. I'd just throw a desiccant in there if you want that extra level of protection.
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not needed the bullet seals them up fine BUT ammo in a safe in a fire = BOOM
I never thought of that before. Is that a thing?
Hmmm what about ammo in the usual military ammo cans?
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Ammo in a can or safe can not become a bomb unless you have a lot of it in there and can ignite them all simultaneously. In a fire they will go off like a brick of firecrackers, not one big bomb.

As for sealing and protecting ammo, the better it's stored the better your chances are that it'll live long happily. On the other extreme, I did about a two year test with various ammo subjected to really bad storage on purpose. Several types of ammo in a one gallon ziplock with a wet paper towel in it and I left it outside where it would get direct sun the first half of the day. Since the bag is permeable I re-wetted the paper towel once in a while to keep the humidity up. They looked like hell, had to scrub a few before chambering, but all went bang.

Primer containers don't seal at all, powder doesn't seal after opening, and plenty of reloaders keep them around for years/decades. I was given some 15ish year old powder that was in broken jugs and if it lost any performance it wasn't enough to notice. Once a cartridge is assembled it's semi sealed even if no sealant is applied. When I open my powder cabinet, which isn't sealed, I can smell the stuff, when I open a sealed ammo can I can't indicating that the ammo probably isn't breathing at all even tho it's being subjected to temperature/pressure changes daily.
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I have 3 of the mini's so far .
One for primers , other 2 for powder . all have keyed alike locks .
Here the garbage company picks up stuff twice a year and with nephews and
nieces watching - we get them for free .
I get 3 or 4 a year , cut off cords add a hasp and sell for 10 at indoor range
- waiting for lane , buying powder - etc . More guys are interested in keyed alike locks and when you show them the bill most want a box of 6 .
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This is an option....vented and insulated...no Kaboom! https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
No thank you I would need 3 or 4 of those....at $2400.
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I keep half of mine in a 50 gal job box with wheels. I put a rechargeable desiccant pack in it and check every month, if the color changes, I take it out and plug it in until it is good again.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-37...rt+with+wheels
Thank you for this idea for storing ammo - sturdy, can be locked, and rolled around. I like it.
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