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Old 04-15-2018, 5:48 PM
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Hello everyone Iím having my ccw interview next month and was wondering what to expect? Iím new to the forums here.
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Hello everyone Iím having my ccw interview next month and was wondering what to expect? Iím new to the forums here.
Spend the next 4 weeks double checking ALL of your documentation... certified birth certificate, marriage certificate, tax documents or lease, fresh utility bill (that is not past due), etc....

The interview itself is more of an honesty test than anything. These are the HR people for SBSD and they can see through BS a mile away.
Don't hide anything... they probably already know about it, it's better to reveal something that they didn't know about than to appear to be hiding something that they do know about.
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Iím more concerned about having my paper work in order. So I need a lease & utility bill in my name? The SBCSD lists a lot of paper work, but Iím not sure if some of it is redundant or not.
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Spend the next 4 weeks double checking ALL of your documentation... certified birth certificate, marriage certificate, tax documents or lease, fresh utility bill (that is not past due), etc....

The interview itself is more of an honesty test than anything. These are the HR people for SBSD and they can see through BS a mile away.
Don't hide anything... they probably already know about it, it's better to reveal something that they didn't know about than to appear to be hiding something that they do know about.
I agree.

You really need to make sure that you have all the paperwork you need in order.

The biggest mistake is to think that all birth certificates and marriage certificates are "certified". Unless they have the county seal embossed in the paper it's not a "certified" certificate. Some hospitals and churches give out commemorative certificates for you to have until the certified one comes in the mail. Don't get these mixed up.

How important is it? Well I posted last year that a buddy of mine waited until the last minute to check everything. He found out that he did not have a certified copy of his birth certificate. He tried to get it on the day of his interview and missed his interview. He is still over a month away from his rescheduled interview date.

The other thing I would recommend is to make an extra set of copies of your paperwork. You have to have one set but when I was there for my interview there was one item that they wanted an extra copy of; luckily I had made an extra set and was able to give them the copy.

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Iím more concerned about having my paper work in order. So I need a lease & utility bill in my name? The SBCSD lists a lot of paper work, but Iím not sure if some of it is redundant or not.
Even if you think it's redundant, take everything and let them pick what they want to document.
I went in with my 2-page tax bill, a 4-page document from the county, AND my title/deed from my mortgage company.

It doesn't cost anything to carry the extra documentation in with you, but if something is not in order, it's going to be a wait for another appointment to fix it.
You will need at least two forms of proof of residency, lease/rental agreement and a utility bill that shows a current balance.
I lucked out on my renewal... my water bill was paid current, but the bill showed a balance that would have gone past-due the week after my renewal visit.
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Iím more concerned about having my paper work in order. So I need a lease & utility bill in my name? The SBCSD lists a lot of paper work, but Iím not sure if some of it is redundant or not.
Yes. A lot of it is redundant. But it's their game their rules. I've seen several people lately posting that they are having problems because of not having a utility bill in their name. If you're in this situation I would recommend you get a utility bill in your name now.

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The other thing I would recommend is to make an extra set of copies of your paperwork. You have to have one set but when I was there for my interview there was one item that they wanted an extra copy of; luckily I had made an extra set and was able to give them the copy.
My experience went the other way.
They ask for originals and a copy. I printed out nice color copies that were almost undiscernable from the originals.
She took only the originals and made her own copies in B&W on the office copier, I got everything back except for the application, notarized form, and residence/employment history.
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My next question is does it matter if my license on my address is going to be different that my current residency proofs that I present? I recently moved?
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Wow I sound illiterate I mistyped my previous statement I apologize.
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My next question is does it matter if my license on my address is going to be different that my current residency proofs that I present? I recently moved?
I heard that there's a form you can get from the DMV to prove you made the change with them.

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Iím more concerned about having my paper work in order. So I need a lease & utility bill in my name? The SBCSD lists a lot of paper work, but Iím not sure if some of it is redundant or not.
If it is listed it is needed. It doesn't matter if you think it is redundant. They have reasons for wanting what they want.
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My next question is does it matter if my license on my address is going to be different that my current residency proofs that I present? I recently moved?
What matters the most is that your info is current with DMV records.
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My address was on my CDL was not the same as my current address. I had updated the DMV on my current address. No questions asked at my interview about it.
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My address was on my CDL was not the same as my current address. I had updated the DMV on my current address. No questions asked at my interview about it.
How ironic.

The DMV "brown card" is not sufficient to buy a handgun, but is for a CCW.

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All my utilities are Paperless will a printer copy work?
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Any suggestions for food on range day? Is it just bring a lunch box & ice packs as the instructions imply, or are there other options?
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Any suggestions for food on range day? Is it just bring a lunch box & ice packs as the instructions imply, or are there other options?
In my class you ate during class to save time. So bring something that doesn't make a mess.

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Ditto... same as my regular lunch... Sandwich, string cheese, peanut butter crackers, a few bottles of water.
Normal lunch includes an apple, but I slice it so I don't juice my beard, and I didn't want to draw a knife in a CCW class

But considering my normal work day is 9 hours plus 3 hours on the road, I would have been good with just breakfast before class.
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Good morning everyone.
I want to start by thanking you all for the invaluable information about the ccw process that is continually provided here.
I read a lot and post very little but I am grateful for your help
You helped me make it through the initial process two years ago and now it's renewal time, and once again I came here and found many invaluable insights as to the process. I have turned in my renewal paperwork and the ladies at HQ are beyond wonderful.
My renewal class is scheduled for next month and I can't wait.
Now comes my question, I am changing two guns on my permit and am just curious if Wednesday evenings or Saturday mornings at Devore are better, less busy, traffic, etc?
It's funny how practical you become in finding out what works in belts, holsters, comfort, and what gun works best for you when you carry one every day.
Thank you all once again for the resources provided here.
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Now comes my question, I am changing two guns on my permit and am just curious if Wednesday evenings or Saturday mornings at Devore are better, less busy, traffic, etc?
Things to consider would be the temperature and daylight or not for the times offered.

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Things to consider would be the temperature and daylight or not for the times offered.

Don't forget your POSTAL money order for class!!
There's no charge for modifying your firearms at renewal time. No money order needed.
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True. But there is a charge to renew your permit. Which needs to be paid with a postal money order.

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Good morning everyone.
I want to start by thanking you all for the invaluable information about the ccw process that is continually provided here.
I read a lot and post very little but I am grateful for your help
You helped me make it through the initial process two years ago and now it's renewal time, and once again I came here and found many invaluable insights as to the process. I have turned in my renewal paperwork and the ladies at HQ are beyond wonderful.
My renewal class is scheduled for next month and I can't wait.
Now comes my question, I am changing two guns on my permit and am just curious if Wednesday evenings or Saturday mornings at Devore are better, less busy, traffic, etc?
It's funny how practical you become in finding out what works in belts, holsters, comfort, and what gun works best for you when you carry one every day.
Thank you all once again for the resources provided here.
Congratulations!

Now... what we want to know. What guns are coming OFF your permit and what new guns are going ON your permit... and why? (We can all learn from one another.) Thank you,

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There's no charge for modifying your firearms at renewal time. No money order needed.
I said for CLASS. There is no CLASS time at the range for gun additions and the ONLY time you can modify your weapons is at renewal time.
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Congratulations!

Now... what we want to know. What guns are coming OFF your permit and what new guns are going ON your permit... and why? (We can all learn from one another.) Thank you,

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My original three pistols were
9mm Shield
.380 Walther PPK/S
.357 Ruger SP101

I sold the Walther and never carried the SP101

I have found the Shield to be one of the best ccw guns available in my opinion
I carry appendix in an iwb bladetech holster
I have never shot the Shield as well as I like though, I can qualify without issue but tend to pull a little high and to the left because the way the trigger breaks on the striker fired shield.
I am keeping the Shield and adding two kahr pistols in 9mm
the cw9 is about the same size as the Shield but thinner and more comfortable in the hand for me
Also adding a kahr pm9 which is smaller and not much larger than a .380.
What I have found with the kahr pistols is that the striker is only partially cocked
and pulling the trigger is like a double Acton revolver, longer and very much smoother and for me they are point of aim accurate, I also like the grip angle better.
I considered a Springfield XD9 subcompact but for a subcompact it's still a little beast and I tend to shank high and to the left as well with the way the trigger breaks on that pistol also.
So there you have it, my two cents on pistol choices.
A good leather belt that supports the weight of you pistol is important and buying your pants one inch bigger in the waist is helpful as well
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Things to consider would be the temperature and daylight or not for the times offered.

Don't forget your POSTAL money order for class!!
Ya, evening class, the sun is going to be at your back, so that is helpful, but I don't think a Saturday morning would be an issue because of the 400ft high backstop.

I went in the evening in November, and it was a wake-up call that I need more low-light sighting practice. Not the kind of low lighting from an indoor range, but shooting in the dark with bright floodlights behind me (which completely wash out night sights).
I had a devil of a time focusing on my front sight and could not balance my focus on the target.
I qualified, but I know I was pulling high left.
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Congratulations!

Now... what we want to know. What guns are coming OFF your permit and what new guns are going ON your permit... and why? (We can all learn from one another.) Thank you,

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I renewed last year...

Originally listed on my permit:
Glock 30
SIG P290RS
(Kel-Tec P32 was denied due to serial number not exactly matching what was listed in AFS)

During renewal I dropped the SIG and added two more Glocks.

Currently listed on my permit:
Glock 30
Glock 19
Glock 43

I disliked the DAO trigger on the SIG and decided to stay with the same trigger system on my carry handguns in order to be consistent.
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I renewed last year...

Originally listed on my permit:
Glock 30
SIG P290RS
(Kel-Tec P32 was denied due to serial number not exactly matching what was listed in AFS)

During renewal I dropped the SIG and added two more Glocks.

Currently listed on my permit:
Glock 30
Glock 19
Glock 43

I disliked the DAO trigger on the SIG and decided to stay with the same trigger system on my carry handguns in order to be consistent.
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Which one do you find yourself carrying most?
Glock 43 = everyday
Glock 30 = occasionally
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What's recent time frames from interview to range date? The wife was about 2 months. We had our interview same day and i'm comin up on 2 1/2 months no phone call. Gettin ancy.
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What's recent time frames from interview to range date? The wife was about 2 months. We had our interview same day and i'm comin up on 2 1/2 months no phone call. Gettin ancy.
There isn't a time frame to go by. Every app is different.
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There isn't a time frame to go by. Every app is different.
Did your employer get the paperwork back to SBCSD in a timely manner?
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That seems to be the biggest hang up in the application process.

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What's recent time frames from interview to range date? The wife was about 2 months. We had our interview same day and i'm comin up on 2 1/2 months no phone call. Gettin ancy.
Mine was about 3 months and a week recently.....Iíd say you should be getting a call pretty soon. Donít expect a range date right after the call though either. Mine was scheduled about a month & a half out from my phone call. I canít confirm for sure, but I think other than in a week or so, the next range date is the end of June? So maybe prep for that to be your range time...
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There isn't a time frame to go by. Every app is different.
Did your employer get the paperwork back to SBCSD in a timely manner?
I haven't really talked to my employer. I figured they'd drag their feet. I know my manager is liberal leaning. I was gonna call the sheriff for an update today.

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I haven't really talked to my employer. I figured they'd drag their feet. I know my manager is liberal leaning. I was gonna call the sheriff for an update today.

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As already posted the employment verifaction is usually the hang up.
Call the CCW office, 'the sheriff' probably won't take your call , and check with one of the girls.
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As already posted the employment verifaction is usually the hang up.
Call the CCW office, 'the sheriff' probably won't take your call , and check with one of the girls.
Okay. I'll try and find the number. Thanks for all the input guys, much appreciated.

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Okay. I'll try and find the number. Thanks for all the input guys, much appreciated.

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The number should be in your app info file.
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