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Old 05-12-2020, 4:48 PM
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Looking at buying a new laptop after 10 years. Use it for MS Office and internet surfing.

I know I want 16GB RAM, a 512 SSD and either a 14" orr 15" screen. Question is (with budget around $900), should it matter whether I get a touchscreen or not? I assume it is better NOT to get a touchscreen as more moving parts = less reliability. I can't think of how a touchscreen would benefit me. Nevertheless, would like to hear some opinions.

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There are no moving parts with a touchscreen. I have several laptops that are touchscreen and they're no less reliable. However, I would only get one if it were in one of the tablet or convertible formats. On a standard laptop, you're probably not going to use the touchscreen capability much, if at all.
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most likely wont find that laptop with those internals for around 900 if purchasing from a solid manufacturer.

i would skip touch screen unless you go with something like the lenovo yoga which doesnt have the best battery life.

i would look for a lenovo T480 or T480s.
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I just got a Dell inspiron 15, its a 10th gen i5 processor, not an i7, and it has 8 g ram and a 512 ssd. I thought about doubling the Ram but this is for work. Ram is cheap and easy, no need so far.

No Touch screen for me. Windows 10 pro.

It was under $700, delivered. Totally happy so far.
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I just got a Dell inspiron 15, its a 10th gen i5 processor, not an i7, and it has 8 g ram and a 512 ssd. I thought about doubling the Ram but this is for work. Ram is cheap and easy, no need so far.

No Touch screen for me. Windows 10 pro.

It was under $700, delivered. Totally happy so far.
Was this an Amazon purchase?

As for touchscreens, I notice that touchscreens seem to be a little bit less then conventional laptops (which makes little sense).
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I bought a HP envy 360 convertible with touchscreen and to be honest I've only ever used the tablet mode once when I first bought it just to try in out... I would not get a touchscreen as I have never actually used the touchscreen except once when my touchpad stopped functioning for some weird reason so I had to use the touchscreen to restart my laptop but other than that I've never used it. I wouldn't get a convert able one either as using a laptop as a tablet is awkward and heavy, just use a laptop as a laptop.

Sam's club and costco have some good deals on laptops every now and then. Could find a good laptop in the $900 range at either of those stores to your specs most likely
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I don't have many recommendations on a *new* laptop. As far as I'm concerned right now, and until Lenovo gets their crap together, most all of them are junk. ATM, the ONLY laptop I would recommend, is a used Lenovo (W541, or older), a newer P series ThinkPad, a high end Dell, an MSI/Alienware, or some other mid-range to high end gaming machine (Asus ROG, Acer Predator). Why? Because ONLY the ones I've mentioned, have been known to be reliable, and are of decent build quality.
How do I know this? Because I work on laptops every day.

Stay away from HP, they're currently putting out "iffy" laptops. Stay away from touchscreens, unless you're getting a high end Dell. Stay away from new Lenovo's, as they're having Thunderbolt issues that tend to be unfixable.

Yes, I know some of you will chime in with "Well, I have (insert laptop brand), and it runs GREAT". Yes, you may have a good one, or you may just not have had problems with it yet. Give it time.

My most requested repairs? MacBook Pro, Surface Book Pro, most HP's, a lot of the new Lenovo's, Acers (not their gamers), and some low end Dell's. Pretty much in that order.

What I DON'T see very often, if at all. Older Lenovo, P series Lenovo, Asus ROG, Alienware, MSI, Acer Predators, and High end Dells.

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I have a couple of old Lenovo T-420s that are still running well with Windows 8.1. Plus you can increAse memory and hard drive (if you have small tool set and can find videos on YouTube).

Also have a less old, Lenovo T-450 that is running strong with windows 8.1.

Older Lenovo Thinkpads are rock solid, well made and can take a bit of a beating (not to destroy it or anything, just everyday use).
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i5-i7 Lenovo, 16GB RAM, 512+ GB Samsung SSD/NVMe, (M.2 NVMe only like +$169-$174)... would be my next purchase if I needed more than I have.
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Looking at buying a new laptop after 10 years. Use it for MS Office and internet surfing.
You don't need a lot for Word and Internet Surfing. Price the low and high, then buy the middle.
Unless you want to future proof, then buy the best money can get.
Lucky, computers have been stagnant as far as innovation.

My current desktop is ~8 years old. Just upgraded the video card, next, the monitor. I'll be good for another eight years.
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I wouldn't go the touchscreen route unless you can use it in a tablet format. Seems like too many performance/value tradeoffs when you look at getting a laptop with a touchscreen. For your $900 budget, you can get a really nice laptop.
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I played with a few of the convertible tablet laptops but I wasnt very impressed. For one, its a huge tablet, double the size of an ipad, kinda takes away from the point of a tablet being handy and portable.

Second, when you fold the whole laptop into a tablet, youre left with the keyboard exposed on the bottom. Most of them diable the keys so its not messing with the screen, but its still goofy to hold in your hand with a bunch of buttons on the bottom. Go to bestbuy and play with one before you buy it, its an expensive option that most people end up never using.

I bought my wife a MSI last year with an I7, 8gb ram, GTX 1050, 128gb SSD and 1 tb HDD for a bit under 800, but now I dont see anything near those specs for that price
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Look to get a Lenovo P52 (last year) or a P53 (this year) for around $1500 or less with sky high upgrade limits and top notch equipment including an IPS screen.

Hunt them on Ebay for a price that is about $400+ less then new. You can find P52s for a good price that is right around your budget.

Else the W530 model can be had for about $400 or less and has a Core i7 3rd gen in it with a lot of pep.
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I got a Asus slim laptop/tablet with Win 10 Pro. The touchscreen is pretty good if your machine needs to be mobile and you don't want to use the pad or external mouse. It can be pretty speedy with a soft tip stylus navigating tabs and scrolling. I've started to prefer it over a mouse when I'm traveling with it.
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Under $225 on Ebay, and all are upgradeable.

i5/i7, some with dGPU, no soldered ram, the "s" models do not have upgradeable CPU's:

Lenovo,T420/T520/T420s=$>100.
T430/T530/T430s/Dell, E6430=$90-120.
T440p/T540p/x230/Dell, E6440= $150-$225.
W520=$200-$225.

Between $226-$500 ALL "W, and "P"" series Lenovo's have a dGPU
Almost ALL W, and P series lenovo's are Quad Cores:

T440p/T540p >$250.
Lenovo W530=$275-$300.
W540/W541/Dell, M4800=$350-$450.
Lenovo, P50 (low end, CPU non-upgradeable)=$500.

Between $500-$700 (non-upgradeable CPU):

Acer Nitro5, Intel powered=$500-$575.
P50=$500-$700, depending on configuration.
T460p/T470p=$575-$625.
Dell 17 Inspiron 7778 (17", reliable 1080p IPS touchscreen)/other high-end Dells=$650-$700.

Also in the $600-$700 price range, you can get a good quality, used, MSI, or Asus ROG.

The above laptops are pretty much the ONLY ones I recommend in these price ranges.

Avoid the Lenovo, T440,T450,T460,T470,(x240, and<), and their "s" versions UNLESS you're doing ONLY basic computing, or coding, and need the battery life.
Avoid ANY HP's in these price ranges. HP put out some REAL turds during this period of time.
Most used gaming machines are reasonably decent in the $350-$700 price range. Avoid the Lenovo "Y" series, and Legions. They have reliability issues.

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I just picked up this guy. Great value with an i5 9th gen, 512 sad, Gtx 1660ti graphics card, extra slot for another sshd hard drive, ips hd display, 8gb of ram but upgradable. I bought 2 sticks of 16gb for 32 go total. Or you can buy another 8gb stick ezpz.

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Still looking for a laptop. As I have $900 in Amazon credit, I'd prefer making the purchase there. I have narrowed it down to this Thinkpad https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...NXXCIAR5&psc=1 or this Acer https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...35CZ2MR5&psc=1 Both get favorable reviews on YouTube.

My hesitation is I am not clear if the Acer can upgrade to 16GM Ram. Also, as 80% of the laptop will be for surfing and using MS Office (the other 20% will be minimal Photoshop retouching), should I look for a dedicated video card, or as high a processing speed I can afford?
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I don't have many recommendations on a *new* laptop. As far as I'm concerned right now, and until Lenovo gets their crap together, most all of them are junk. ATM, the ONLY laptop I would recommend, is a used Lenovo (W541, or older), a newer P series ThinkPad, a high end Dell, an MSI/Alienware, or some other mid-range to high end gaming machine (Asus ROG, Acer Predator). Why? Because ONLY the ones I've mentioned, have been known to be reliable, and are of decent build quality.
How do I know this? Because I work on laptops every day.

Stay away from HP, they're currently putting out "iffy" laptops. Stay away from touchscreens, unless you're getting a high end Dell. Stay away from new Lenovo's, as they're having Thunderbolt issues that tend to be unfixable.

Yes, I know some of you will chime in with "Well, I have (insert laptop brand), and it runs GREAT". Yes, you may have a good one, or you may just not have had problems with it yet. Give it time.

My most requested repairs? MacBook Pro, Surface Book Pro, most HP's, a lot of the new Lenovo's, Acers (not their gamers), and some low end Dell's. Pretty much in that order.

What I DON'T see very often, if at all. Older Lenovo, P series Lenovo, Asus ROG, Alienware, MSI, Acer Predators, and High end Dells.

Surf through C-L for deals as well. I've always had good success with C-L computer/parts deals.
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Still looking for a laptop. As I have $900 in Amazon credit, I'd prefer making the purchase there. I have narrowed it down to this Thinkpad https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...NXXCIAR5&psc=1 or this Acer https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...35CZ2MR5&psc=1 Both get favorable reviews on YouTube.

My hesitation is I am not clear if the Acer can upgrade to 16GM Ram. Also, as 80% of the laptop will be for surfing and using MS Office (the other 20% will be minimal Photoshop retouching), should I look for a dedicated video card, or as high a processing speed I can afford?
Go for the Acer. Here's why. The ThinkPad has a pathetic display, and the Acer has a 1080p display. MUCH easier on your eyes.

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https://www.costco.com/asus-rog-zeph...100655382.html
I know you didn't ask me but I'll put my two cents in.

Between that AMD Ryzen 4800H and say, and Intel I7-9750H (or even I7-10875H) you won't notice a difference unless you are running simulations and timing them down to the minute. Like fluid, mechanical, electrical simulations.

AMD used to be very electrically efficient for the laptop market. You would see improved battery life for a given laptop with an AMD cpu vs intel (most offerings).

Not so much true today.

If you aren't in a benchmark war, or trying to save minutes off of simulations, you won't notice a difference and will be fine with either processor. I would say go with Intel because of their reliability track record but even then, AMD is reliable too.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...6364vsm1032976

That machine you linked to looks well spec'd for the price including that 1T nvme drive and 16gb ram out the box. Integrated camera and the Ryzen 7.

I used to be an AMD fanboy when I started building computers back in the AMD Athlon and Intel Pentium 3 days. The intels even then were benchmarking better but the budget pcs I built with Athlon were offering gamers effectively the same performance for much lower cost. Sure on a benchmark run, the pentium machines would pull ahead in almost all cases but that doesn't matter much for 95% of gamers.
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Was this an Amazon purchase?

As for touchscreens, I notice that touchscreens seem to be a little bit less then conventional laptops (which makes little sense).
No, directly from Dell. It was at the start of the shutdown and nobody had anything in stock.
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OK...finally narrowed the choice down between a Thinkpad T480 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...QJIMLX3X&psc=1 and this HP - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...BV1YQ4SG&psc=1. My hesitation is if the HP is worth the extra $100 for the i7 and dedicated graphic card (again, about 80% use will be surfing the net and MS Office, 20% some Photoshop work). No video editing. Also, the HP is a touchscreen (which I wont use for its purpose).
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OK...finally narrowed the choice down between a Thinkpad T480 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...QJIMLX3X&psc=1 and this HP - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...BV1YQ4SG&psc=1. My hesitation is if the HP is worth the extra $100 for the i7 and dedicated graphic card (again, about 80% use will be surfing the net and MS Office, 20% some Photoshop work). No video editing. Also, the HP is a touchscreen (which I wont use for its purpose).
What do you do with photoshop? Minimum requirements are a gtx 1650, 1660 recommended. That mx250 in the hp won’t cut it:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/sy...uirements.html

But that is to cover the whole program suite.

This laptop has everything you would need. Photoshop requires 2gb ram, recommends 8gb. This one has 8gb and super easily upgraded up to 32. storage is easily added to/upgraded with an existing available slot. However it does not have an integrated camera. Has integrated microphone but no camera. So that's something you'd have to pick up. Minor in my opinion.
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Laptop-i.../dp/B07VWDKV4C


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There is nothing wrong with AMD Ryzen processors. Especially the latest ones
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Huge +1 for thinkpad T series.
T480 here and would absolutely buy again.

I would also consider the T485 as it has ryzen instead of intel. Only problem is after the t480, they went to one of the ram sticks being soldered in.
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Huge +1 for thinkpad T series.
T480 here and would absolutely buy again.

I would also consider the T485 as it has ryzen instead of intel. Only problem is after the t480, they went to one of the ram sticks being soldered in.
Yeah, for most people, a T480 would be fine. I'm personally not impressed with them, but I run a lot of Graphics programs, AutoCaD, 3D stuff, and games. Hard to do that with the "U" processor, but for most people, it would work.
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Yeah, for most people, a T480 would be fine. I'm personally not impressed with them, but I run a lot of Graphics programs, AutoCaD, 3D stuff, and games. Hard to do that with the "U" processor, but for most people, it would work.
Yeah, graphic heavy stuff I'd generally recommend a desktop.
I have one step up from what the OP was looking at. I have the 8350. It has been perfectly fine for me. My use is generally more ram intensive than graphical though. Mostly VMs, web browsing and SSHing into my servers with occasional GIMP, Inkscape, and Darktable on the laptop and it has handled those just fine.
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touch screen laptops are smooth/glossy pane LCD panels. Meaning, they have issues with reflections.

Non-touch screens can be glossy or anti-glare. I can't stand glossy screens on something I might be staring at for any length of time.
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touch screen laptops are smooth/glossy pane LCD panels. Meaning, they have issues with reflections.

Non-touch screens can be glossy or anti-glare. I can't stand glossy screens on something I might be staring at for any length of time.
Not always the case. Mine is a touchscreen with a matte finish.
Some people prefer glossy screens for their often better colors and contrast. If glare might be an issue, better to go with matte though.
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Yeah, graphic heavy stuff I'd generally recommend a desktop.
I have one step up from what the OP was looking at. I have the 8350. It has been perfectly fine for me. My use is generally more ram intensive than graphical though. Mostly VMs, web browsing and SSHing into my servers with occasional GIMP, Inkscape, and Darktable on the laptop and it has handled those just fine.
Actually, I do this work on a Lenovo W540, Graphic Arts Workstation. Mine has an i7-4900mq Haswell processor, and it's more powerful than the high end T480, T485, T490, and T495, and will do the work much faster, as the Haswell Quad Cores, are still some of the most powerful processors you can get.

"Technically", the T490/T495 are a little faster, but if you stress the Ryzen, and Intel "U" processors, they overheat, and vomit, while the i7-4900mq< Haswell's eat the same projects with no problem. Especially running a couple VM's at the same time.

Mine also has 32gb/RAM, 3k display, x2 1tb Samsung EVO 860 SSD's, a 480gb M.2 NGFF drive, nVidia Quadro, K2100m video that makes short work of Photoshop, 3D Desktop, and AutoCaD. It's also not a half bad gamer. This is my "Daily Driver", and I have another backup W540, with 1080p IPS display, and an i7-4800mq processor. Everything else is the same as my DD.

I haven't used a Desktop since around 2003, as a "Daily Driver".

I had to make a correction, it was 2011 when I stopped using a desktop as a Daily Driver period. What was I thinkin'.

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Actually, I do this work on a Lenovo W540, Graphic Arts Workstation. Mine has an i7-4900mq Haswell processor, and it's more powerful than the high end T480, T485, T490, and T495, and will do the work much faster, as the Haswell Quad Cores, are still some of the most powerful processors you can get.

"Technically", the T490/T495 are a little faster, but if you stress the Ryzen, and Intel "U" processors, they overheat, and vomit, while the i7-4900mq< Haswell's eat the same projects with no problem. Especially running a couple VM's at the same time.

Mine also has 32gb/RAM, 3k display, x2 1tb Samsung EVO 860 SSD's, a 480gb M.2 NGFF drive, nVidia Quadro, K2100m video that makes short work of Photoshop, 3D Desktop, and AutoCaD. It's also not a half bad gamer. This is my "Daily Driver", and I have another backup W540, with 1080p IPS display, and an i7-4800mq processor. Everything else is the same as my DD.

I haven't used a Desktop since around 2003, as a "Daily Driver".

I had to make a correction, it was 2011 when I stopped using a desktop as a Daily Driver period. What was I thinkin'.
Cool. Not my experience at all with the t480 though.
I have gamed on it. Never tried any top tier games as I have a pretty powerful desktop for that use. It ran elder scrolls online perfectly fine. Running 5 VMs right now and the cpu is bouncing between 20-25% and around 55C and 4% ram usage (32gb of DDR4).
For my use, the smaller size, lighter weight, and better battery life of the t480 are some of the main reasons I bought it while still having user replaceable and upgradable parts. The 1tb ssd and 512gb m.2 I have in it are plenty for me. I have a gaming laptop (asus g750jm, I7-4700HQ, GTX860m) that hardly ever gets used now. It's too big, too heavy, and chews through battery life.
I find the T480 much faster in general use and cpu tasks such as Photoshop. The g750 is better at graphic intensive tasks, obviously, but I don't have that need in a laptop.
Everyone has different needs, we are lucky that there are so many great option available.
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Cool. Not my experience at all with the t480 though.
I have gamed on it. Never tried any top tier games as I have a pretty powerful desktop for that use. It ran elder scrolls online perfectly fine. Running 5 VMs right now and the cpu is bouncing between 20-25% and around 55C and 4% ram usage (32gb of DDR4).
For my use, the smaller size, lighter weight, and better battery life of the t480 are some of the main reasons I bought it while still having user replaceable and upgradable parts. The 1tb ssd and 512gb m.2 I have in it are plenty for me. I have a gaming laptop (asus g750jm, I7-4700HQ, GTX860m) that hardly ever gets used now. It's too big, too heavy, and chews through battery life.
I find the T480 much faster in general use and cpu tasks such as Photoshop. The g750 is better at graphic intensive tasks, obviously, but I don't have that need in a laptop.
Everyone has different needs, we are lucky that there are so many great option available.
Yes, options are very good. Not everyone does the same things. I run AutoCaD in one VM, while testing games and other graphics applications in others, and throw in Linux Mint Cinnamon, using FireFox on-line in one VM. I punish my CPU's. Good thing I have lots of ram.

I tried doing the exact same thing with a T480, and it kept throttling on me, even after I re-pasted the CPU. It's not meant to be pushed to "Punishment" level, but that's not what it was designed to do. Over all, it's a pretty decent computer.

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Not always the case. Mine is a touchscreen with a matte finish.
Some people prefer glossy screens for their often better colors and contrast. If glare might be an issue, better to go with matte though.
What model do you have that has such a panel? I know the ability for touch matte screens exists (early PDAs/smart phones, etc.) but they typically used resistive style touch sensor, vs capacitive. IME, the touch performance of resistive touch sensors is pretty abysmal for things like swiping.
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What model do you have that has such a panel? I know the ability for touch matte screens exists (early PDAs/smart phones, etc.) but they typically used resistive style touch sensor, vs capacitive. IME, the touch performance of resistive touch sensors is pretty abysmal for things like swiping.
Lenovo T480 with the 1080p touch screen. Part number B140HAK01.0
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Lenovo T480 with the 1080p touch screen. Part number B140HAK01.0
Interesting. When you tap on the screen with a fingernail, does it feel hard like a cellphone or soft like a business card? And, can you see any distortion of the underlying pixels (discoloration/smudging) when you push firmly?

Antiglare films can be applied over glass and keep capacitance (just like a screen protector on your phone). However, usually when these films are applied over glass, the distance between LCD and the film causes some refraction issues and reduces viewing angles. Perhaps lenovo just figured out how to get that glass distance/optical qualities JUST right.
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I recently went down this rabbit hole and bought a ASUS A15 FA506 with the 4800 Ryzen 7 processor. I figured if I was going to invest in a new laptop that I would want one of the latest mid range models (probably be long time before I buy another laptop) This one got some good reviews and was within my price range. It seems that a number of newer laptop models are seeing delays in shipping so they are trickling into the market.

I really had no need for a touchscreen (my wife has a MS Surface I find its usefulness overrated) and wanted a laptop that could handle some gaming. This model also has an extra NVME slot for an extra SSD. I added a 1TB for games and for movie storage. (I haven't played games much in the last couple of years but I find myself with a lot more time on my hands lately)

There are some decent ASUS models that are seeing some price reductions (previous model FA505) that got some good reviews as well.
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I have a t-series for work. I originally had a yoga and that was trash (i went thru 2 before i "upgraded" to a used t480s. previously, i had a t460s but it was EOLs.

the only thing i don't like about lenovo is the ram upgrade because most times, one of them is soldered. so you're limited on the 2nd memory bank.

hp - hit or miss. i've not had any problems and i bought one for my kid for his school work because costco gets the 2 yrs warranty.

dell would be most go-to. i have a 2014 xps 15 (had gorilla glass, 1080p, etc). getting to it's age and i have a thread here to replace the fan. i'll re-do the thermal paste this weekend to see if that brings down the temps as i seem to be running it hard. i think it overheated and shut down to protect itself when i was using it the first time to convert a gopro vid to .h264 while uploading to youtube (same videos and to test if i can edit there much easier) while watching prime video. lolz.. it's an i7 processor and 16gb of ram, with msata for primary drive and the original drive as my secondary.

can't speak for the other brands. i don't read much good stuff about samsung.
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Interesting. When you tap on the screen with a fingernail, does it feel hard like a cellphone or soft like a business card? And, can you see any distortion of the underlying pixels (discoloration/smudging) when you push firmly?

Antiglare films can be applied over glass and keep capacitance (just like a screen protector on your phone). However, usually when these films are applied over glass, the distance between LCD and the film causes some refraction issues and reduces viewing angles. Perhaps lenovo just figured out how to get that glass distance/optical qualities JUST right.
It's harder than my computer monitor but softer than a phone screen. It does smudge like puddles when pressed firmly. It is capacitive as it does not respond to things such as plastic.
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