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2012 Bay Area Rifle Championship - BARC
Hello Everyone,
The 2012 BARC is now open for business on a limited basis. Registration will open at some point after December 1, 2011, I will keep you posted here and in email blasts to all previous competitors. Match date: June 24, 2012. Location: Richmond Rod & Gun Club, Richmond, CA Most everything will remain unchanged or improved in match format, USPSA hit-factor scoring, USPSA divisions, our special categories and prizes. Match fee is now $90.00, non-refundable under a week out :-( Please PM me for more info, but that's about all I have right now except for the promise that the 2012 BARC will be better than ever! Seeya' all there |
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If we can, we will, but I ain't promising anything this early in the planning except that this match will be be better than before or I ain't doing my job
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I have a new secret weapon for Manual Open...
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2012 BARC Updates
Rules and general information have been updated for 2012
2012 BARC Rules & Info Sponsors are being organized and there is very good news, the 2012 BARC will be getting a larger level of sponsor support than ever before (much in part due to Chris N's valiant efforts). This will translate to a humongous prize table for 2012 with higher retail prize value down to a much deeper level than last year. Stage designs are being worked on and will be better than ever. Registration will open early next month (December). Stay tuned for more details. Last edited by GeoffLinder; 03-07-2012 at 10:26 AM.. |
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280 is what I have decided on for the moment. Might go with 270 though. Not set in stone until after Jan 1st
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You will have to chrono it and see if it does in your specific gun. I do want the AK's to be able to play so let me know what data you are getting with factory ammo in the AK and I will take this into consideration before I lock this in. 270pf should be doable with most factory fodder in 7.62x39 and 280pf with select factory ammo and easily by reloading your own.
Like I said, this is not locked in stone yet, but I am looking at making it so Last edited by GeoffLinder; 11-24-2011 at 1:43 PM.. |
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Which is why I would want an 18-20" 300 blk barrel if I were to build one
I read AAC post a load with 175gr SMK that made 320pf for the 300blk through a 16" barrel though. |
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Whoever wins the match in combined divisions walks the table first is the way I would have to let it play out according to the hierarchy I have laid out.
I am looking at a higher Big Bore power factor to help reign this possibility in a little now that the one-hit on paper scoring has made Big Bore very competitive in the overall. For 2012 I also changed BB Open to BB Tactical to eliminate bipods, secondary optics and huge muzzle brakes from the division. Last edited by GeoffLinder; 11-24-2011 at 1:47 PM.. |
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Think of it as an overall "match design" where I looked at what transpired last year and will be nudging things in the general direction I want things to end up at this year by utilizing a lot of small tweaks everywhere to end up with a fairly large change of result where it needs to be I want to achieve the holy grail of having everyone earn the proper merit within their division AND garner additional compensation from a single prize table via a properly weighted process that rewards real heads up accomplishment across divisions in as fair a process as possible. In a nutshell, the main end result I am trying to achieve here is a one hit anywhere for major and two anywhere for minor target neutralization schema within USPSA hit factor scoring so I don't have to resort to time plus to make larger calibers competitive again and we still get to keep DVC based scoring and all it's plusses versus time plus. The single prize table for all divisions parity item is just a required step in that process, not the actual final destination :-) Last edited by GeoffLinder; 11-24-2011 at 3:11 PM.. |
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Also, remember, Big Bore and Manual divisions get =20 points for each of their misses, double value, just like they get for hits Last edited by GeoffLinder; 11-24-2011 at 3:44 PM.. |
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I'll take a 200 point penalty for mikes if you let me shoot one shot / target in TO
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Big Bore was always Major PF point scores from paper targets. You could choose to shoot in a regular division (2 shots per paper target) if you wished but by choosing so you were not eligible for Big Bore, no one chose to do so
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I don't care which division I shoot.. Limited.. difficult with my noticeably slowly fading eyesight.. tactical is fine.. manual.. no way, not a chance, never again.. until I build my own, well, it's whatever I can borrow than I trust.. currently, I definitely trust the MD's rifle..
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Is the chrono available for use (to chrono an AK) during weekend practice? |
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Yes it is, but you need to have an RO present during the chrono
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Here's the link to Wolf Ammo's Email reaponse: Wolf 7.62x39 ballistics. 122gr FMJ & HP = 292 PF Muzzle Velocity (fps) 2,444 154gr SP = 322 PF Muzzle Velocity (fps) 2,116 |
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Daniel Horner shot a .300 BLK at the Nationals and he wont the long range stage (out to 365y) with 10%, so the fact that they screwed up one stage doesnt "nullify" the advantage, they just need to learn their holds.
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I think Geoff's intention for the big bore division is to allow non-AR platform users to have a reason to use their factory stock/non-competition-tuned rifles at BARC. Thus I think all your points only apply to AR-platform users. |
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Compare an AK in TO to an AK in BB or an AR in TO to an AR in BB. An AK _or_ AR shooting in BB would have a big advantage compared to the same platform in TO. You can't compare an AK in BB to an AR in TO and say that there's no advantage because the AK is really an inferior platform. Anyway, it's Geoff's match and he's free to make up whatever rules and divisions he wants, so I'll be quiet now
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