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. Last edited by DRAB_81; 07-06-2012 at 9:13 PM.. |
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I wouldn't say that it is at a dead end, just that it is not on the front burner, for now... There are more urgent issues right now SB249, now that Nordyke is no longer holding up cases, both the Richards & Peruta cases are coming up at the 9th Circuit; Pena v. Cyd will start moving again, Richards v. Harris... The lawyers have their hands full...
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Just to give you some time perspective... the post you just quoted is 9 months old. "Slowly" doesn't even begin to describe this.
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or last week... or last month... or last year... or last decade Ah California. I've seen glaciers move faster than firearms rights progress in California.
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You're new enough to the forum that you don't know the agonizing pain of being told things will happen in, "two weeks."
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Yep. Remember that workaround for hi-cap magazines?
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My wife and I are both looking into CCW. Our GC would be to protect ourselves and our family legally in urban areas as well as when we are camping, backpacking and rock climbing in remote areas. My wife also deals with large sums of money at work, though she is looking to get back into EMS. We live in Lodi.
I have read through most of the posts and went from hopeful to distressed. Makes me wish we would have stayed in Sonora, where the process really takes a couple weeks. I don't have much $ to spare and not as much time as I would like to volunteer. I'm headed to the link to sign up, but what can I look forward to doing? Where can I find more details about the court cases? |
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It aggravating to be sure, but the last official communications seems, to me at least, to make two clear points: 1) we are at an impasse in getting CCWs approved generally and it will take either a change of Sheriff or legal action to free the process up and 2) CGF has bigger fish to fry with AB 249, Pena, and other issues and cases to spend time and money on San Joaquin right now so we need to be patient. Our neighborhood is covered by the sheriff for public safety so I don't have a city alternative to use so I'll just have to be patient.
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I heard unless you are LE, Sheriff Moore won't approve you just based on your right to self defense. Also, if you state you carry large sums of cash he will want bank records. Again, not fact, just what I have learned through other people.
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This correct on the large sum of cash part. While working with the AG. Dept I meet a few orchard growers around the linden, lodi area that had to bring in bank receipts and other paper work showing they carry large sums of cash. One of gentlemen I meet runs produce stands at farmers markets as well as other things. where all his business is cash
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I found out that a coworker's son was recently given an unrestricted LTC by Moore. It turns out some guy helped out a deputy that was being attacked, and the deputy basically got him an LTC for his efforts (which is backdoor, but still pretty admirable). My coworker's son works for the guy who helped the deputy, so long story short, he got a LTC too. . Last edited by DRAB_81; 07-29-2012 at 7:22 PM.. |
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I don't think you will have any success. A friend who has had a CCW for over 15 years, and has substancial good cause, received a letter about 6 months ago telling him it had been revoked and he had ten days to return it to the PD office. It seems letters went out to almost every CCW holder in the city of Lodi.
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On a side note, if they sent letters to ALL LTC holders in Lodi, they didn't have to spend too much money on stamps. Out of a population of 65,000-70,000 people, I was told there were only around 40 LTC's issued. That was according to the retired LT that was handling LTC's a couple years ago. He was a delightful man, who proceeded to verbally assault my GCS (which was good) & deny even giving me an application. |
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Lol. That would be Chet Somera, megadouche.
It's always amazed me that they didn't even want to send out the packet. Sounds like I got further than most at LPD. At least they let me apply before they denied me. Lol.
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I will still try for an application. If denied, I will go through the hoops and escalate it to the sheriff, even if its a list cause. You can fight something with words, it takes documentation.
While I want this to protect myself and my family in these crazy cities, I really want the price of mind of not being arrested for carrying when my wife and i are backpacking, cause I'm going to carry then no matter what. There are too many tweakers out there too and NO law enforcement response worth even trying to time. Sent from my Nexus 7 |
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Apparently in California you don't need a reason to infringe on or deny a fundamental right.
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The truth is, I'm looking forward to getting out of Lodi and Stockton and this whole county. My brother in law got his CCW in tuolumne county, process took 2 weeks. Sent from my Nexus 7 |
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As much as I hate to say it, it's still a waste of time and money at this point.
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We DID try, and they DID win. Absolutely nothing has changed since I received my denial letter (3/3/2011). We all beat our heads against that wall over a year ago, not knowing 100% what the outcome would be. Now that we know the outcome, why would we keep going the same route? We aren't quitting, but throwing another $119 @ Moore isn't going to help. I'm just trying to save you the same frustration we all experienced back in 2010/2011.
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What amount of money would it take to get CGF to file suit on Sheriff Moore on grounds that he is only issuing to wealthy donors, wealthy farmers and corrupt city managers?
I'd be in for $1,000.00 personally. If there were say, 200 San Joaquin residents in at $100, would that be enough?? I know a guy who came here illegally, then became a citizen somehow; owns a car repair business and was a licensed bounty hunter; HE has a CCW still today... But most natural born citizens cannot get one... let's roll! |
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If you look at http://calgunsfoundation.org/resourc...n-joaquin.html you can see how many people (a whopping 7), besides myself, have donated towards this cause. I'd be in for another $100, if we had some support from residents. I've pretty much written this off until there is a sheriff change, or a material change in CA law.
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Seeing that I am not a homeowner right now, I may just move out of the county. Lodi is OK but I miss the mountains. I should have gotten my ccw when I was in tuolumne county, when I didn't feel I needed it.
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The problem with that is, if you had moved into SJC after getting it somewhere else, you would've had it taken away by the current sheriff.
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CCW for Federal LEO likely or not?
Agency recently made policy that prohibits carrying our creds when off duty and not authorized to off carry (obviously). I know HR218 (LEOSA) applies but don't want to violate policy so looking for CCW. I reside in Stockton. |
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