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Old 03-30-2017, 5:48 PM
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Default AR hammer questions.

Hi , I have one of your AR premium LPK and a blem AR complete lower that was put together by you guys.

I have NO questions about triggers or sears , hammer hooks , lightening trigger pulls , etc.
I am not touching any of that.

My 1st question involves the hammer , would I be correct in assuming these hammers are surfaced hardened only and not hardened through out?
If the answer is NO , I don't need anything else answered.

But since I assume they are surface hardened only I will continue.......the finish on the hammers seem to be causing too much drag in the area where it interfaces with the disconnector and in turn neither one of these want to let the trigger reset after firing a round and releasing the trigger.
Which leaves me with one shot before the trigger goes dead on me.

What I would like to do is POLISH with 1000-1500 grit paper the surface on the back of the hammer where it mates with the disconnector.
Just until proper function is achieved.

What I do not want to do is , go below the hardened exterior surface and end up with premature wear.

I think this is possible , but how would I know as I can't say just what depth the hammers are externally hardened to.
I'm looking at just breaking through the applied finish mostly.

Comments , questions , thoughts?
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Old 03-31-2017, 12:34 PM
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I'd just put it in the garbage and get a http://algdefense.com/ Trigger and also a creep screw. PSA sells http://palmettostatearmory.com/palme...c-act-lpk.html that has the ALG ACT trigger/hammer.

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Old 03-31-2017, 7:59 PM
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I'd just put it in the garbage and get a http://algdefense.com/ Trigger and also a creep screw. PSA sells http://palmettostatearmory.com/palme...c-act-lpk.html that has the ALG ACT trigger/hammer.
I suppose but working the hammer would be $75 cheaper and effective right now.
I am fairly certain it can be done but it'd be nice to have a conversation about it.
I would assume a return would even be in order , however that has not yet happened ...... they could be busy and frankly I'd rather just handle this in house.
Maybe the guy needs some time t look into it...
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That $75 was for the lower kit, they usually go for $65, polishing the sear surfaces can get tricky as you'll possibly take off the hardening surface and give yourself other issues. I have three ALG ACT triggers and they are better than milspec, the creep screws are also very handy in tuning the trigger up a bit.

Looks like the Premium LPK is just a Mil-spec trigger kit. You can try, but Honestly I'd just upgrade it as the options you get can vastly improve your experiance.

I live in Calif and for past few years people(noobies) have been asking me about these ar15 builds and I tell them spend a few bucks extra in a few upgrades and you'll get a better rifle, the Trigger is the First primary part to get an upgrade that's needed. Very few mil spec triggers are any good. I've seen so many people after a year with the cheapest built rifles upgrade so many things it's funny. if you started off right first you wouldn't have to spend much more extra.

Try your luck see if you can rub that grit out, just do it more sparingly that you'd think.
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I believe both of the trigger kits are the same as each other. I am just letting the guy here know exactly what it was that I purchased.
If the triggers work as intended , that is all I really am looking for.
Or I guess I should say .... the hammer work as intended.

I polished out one already , the one that came as a LPK.
Not touching the trigger at all as stated , only had to polish the very tail end of the hammer where the disconnector rides AFTER releasing the trigger.
Trigger pull will not be effected at all which is fine , I just want it to work.
It did go through the finish as it was almost impossible not to.
Any wear in that area is going to show itself in short order , so we shall see.

The blem lower will stay as is for now. Which means it is non-functioning.

This isn't the 1st I have ever seen it.
It's happened to factory built rifles.
Cookie cutter parts are cookie cutter parts after all.

I'd still like to hear what they say about the hammers , although I am expecting the advice of "don't touch anything".
Which is fine , just tell me what they may know about the hammers.
I assume they were not re-hardened after their cuts were made.
And I assume a lot else simply because no one is telling me.
Which is what I am looking for.

But thank you for the recommendation , I will certainly keep that in mind for next time or if things don't work out with the polishing.
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I should probably stop seeking an answer here?
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You can go to https://www.ar15.com/forums/ and ask there, as it's has more resources.
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WMG,
I had the exact same problem at first.
I was going to change it out, but then it started working fine. I really like this trigger.
How many rounds have you gone through?
It took about 100 rounds for me.
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You can go to https://www.ar15.com/forums/ and ask there, as it's has more resources.
Never found the brain trust over there to be of any help.
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Old 04-12-2017, 10:18 AM
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Just a thought.

and Palmetto has a deal on a trigger
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-a...d-trigger.html

$30.
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WMG,
I had the exact same problem at first.
I was going to change it out, but then it started working fine. I really like this trigger.
How many rounds have you gone through?
It took about 100 rounds for me.
Do you mean how many rounds gone through before it began working on it's own?
If so ,none. I used a box of 20 at the range on the one and it didn't work. Decided to at least get it sighted in and finished off remaining of the box.
Since then , it was polished and has 75rds through it. The other one has just been sitting.
Spring time is busy time with getting everything out of winterizing , etc.
Hope to get more rds out of it here soon.
The other one I am in no hurry with until I see what happens.

No way am I going to ar15.com. Rather stick a needle in my eye.
If they can polish their triggers than I guess I can to.
But this current stuff is no good without a bit of work.
When I say "no good" I mean does not function.
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Sorry for the late reply!

If you can send me your order number for the blem lower with a defective fire control group as well as a physical shipping address, I'd be more than happy to send you replacement parts.
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Thanks , I will do that VIA P.M once I send this. I will include the dealer the lower was sent to on my behalf also , as I am not a FFL holder.
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Got the hammer today , thanks!!!
And the sticker.
Despite all the $$$ I spent before , I never got a sticker,
It's the little things that make me smile. Thanks again.
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