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Wooden dowel, seriously?
I finally found some live shells for my brand-new Mossberg 500 Tactical Persuader. Low and behold I was only able to load 2 shells in the tube because there was a wooden dowel in my PUMP shotgun
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It's a legality thing all shot guns (as far as my knowledge) come with them out of the shop.
I've chucked every single one as soon as I got home accept the one in my 870 cause it was plastic and I saw them going for $30 online hah! Edit: The way CA is going we might want to keep these being with out them they will probably be assault shotguns in a few years with out perm capped mag tubes |
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Had the same problem when I got mine home, was like "2 shells, this POS is broken!" Because who reads the manual for a shotgun, right? They mention it in there but still...yeah...stupid requirement.
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As well as most other states. That's why the dowel is there. They don't offer special California versions of their shotguns.
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It's not a California thing, it's a hunting thing. You'd be pissed if you bought a shotgun and it didn't come with the plug if you were are duck hunter.
Take it out, no harm, no foul. Just don't go hunting with it. |
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NO! it's a Federal thing. Lots of You tubes to show you how.
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Yeah, going hunting and being able to load more than 2 rounds in the tube will get you in some serious trouble.
I don't hunt much and shoot more clays, so I personally take out the dowel.
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But all my black tacticool shotguns never came with them, even when the gun shop goes in the back and grabs a new one still sealed in the original box.
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Any act of hunting with a shotgun capable of holding more than 3 rounds will get you a big fine and a years loss of hunting privileges. No matter what you are hunting! Thats right, if you are deer hunting and you have an unloaded shotgun in your car with no plug, it will be enough to get a ticket and fine. i have seen it happen.
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Actually come think of it, that is very true. My Maverick 88 security didn't have a dowel for a limiter.
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If you're shooting clays why do you need more than 2 shells at a time. For all sports you only have two targets maximum at one station.
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fixed that for ya.
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You've never shot 3 clays in a row before? Have your buddy put 3 or 4 in the air at once, great fun seeing if you can hit em all.
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Not that I'm slamming shooting clays on BLM land(do whatever you want out there for all I care, as long as you're safe about it and clean up after yourself), but his usage of "sport" and "station" made what he meant pretty clear. |
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It is removable. Just be thankful that law does not apply to rifles and handguns.
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2 in the tube, 1 in the chamber is the limit.
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its a hunting thing, most 500's have them although i have 2 mossberg's (500 JIC II and a 590) both came dowel free.
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The method used to check is a plastic coated rod with a taped mark on the rod. The rod is inserted into your empty magazine tube. If the rod goes in past the mark you get a citation. Simple, but effective.
The requirement is "...the plug must be of one piece construction incapable of removal without disassembling the gun." Yes, I have had my shotgun checked in the field.
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I have purchased several shotguns and have never had a wooden dowel in mine lol. As a side note you will have a follower but that's a little plastic piece.
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I mean I suppose if it was informal, guess it isn't that big deal you aren't following all the rules.
When shooting skeet informally or for fun, I'd take my bonus shot whenever and where ever I please.
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It's hilarious because it happened to you too I know it ruined my first time out with my Mossy combo. You will never fool me again Mossberg
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fun fact: that limited 2 shell capacity is full capacity for a UK legal Mossberg 500 and our standard 18 inch barrel is considered a SBS in the UK.
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meh...
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Funny how after 9/11 the IRA suddenly decided non violance and a political settlement was the way to go... Sorry for temporary threadjack.
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Do hold into it though. In indiana at least high achieving game wardens will check your tube. |
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What a crock.. You spend hundreds of $$ on a hunting gun and can only load 3-5? No wonder fish and game hates the Siaga mag fed.
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I offered the warden my over/under to check, and he seemed peeved for some reason.. |
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When I got my Mossberg 500 20" It did not come with a dowel. But when my father got his Mossberg combo years ago it did. I is confused why some come with one and other don't. BTW Mossberg's new site sucks now IMHO.
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