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Old 02-06-2016, 8:51 AM
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Has anyone experienced the Standard Manufacturing DP-12 Double Barrel 12 gauge shotgun?
From the videos I have seen it looks pretty good.
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I just picked one up. Haven't had the chance to shoot it yet. I'll report back after I do.

It's amazing how short it is. I like that a lot. And of course I love the fact that I can load it up with 16 rounds of 00-buck. What could possibly be better than this for home defense. Nothing.

Only negatives are it's heavy, and expensive. But it's definitely a quality build. Comparing it to a KSG is like comparing a Mercedes to a Kia.



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Just noticed this is in the Gallery forum. If a mod notices, could we get this thread moved back to the Shotgun discussion form? Thank you.
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So I am curious, is having 16 rounds in it legal per CA standards?

also, it looks like it fires 1 then the other.... is there only 1 trigger and it fires 2 bullets per single pull?
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2 short per pump action, 1 shot per trigger pull.
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So I am curious, is having 16 rounds in it legal per CA standards?
It has 2, 8 round magazines.
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also, it looks like it fires 1 then the other.... is there only 1 trigger and it fires 2 bullets per single pull?
That's not how it works at all. 1 shot per trigger pull.
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I purchased a DP-12 last week, pick up in 4 days.
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To confirm, the slide is cycled, loading two rounds (one in each chamber). Then pulling the trigger will fire the right barrel. Pulling the trigger again will fire the left barrel. Once both barrels have been fired the slide unlocks and you can cycle it again, ejecting the two spent shells and reloading two new shells, one from each magazine.

The shotgun seems well made and is heavy enough to absorb some recoil so I imagine shooting it would be enjoyable. It's a bit unwieldy being as thick and as heavy as two regular pump shotguns but certainly usable. My only issue with it so far is that after years of training to "pump, fire, pump, fire" this would require me to "pump, fire, fire, pump, fire, fire". As a defensive tool I'd have to do a lot of training to overcome muscle memory.
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Where are you all buying these from - directly from the company?
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I got mine from Audiophil2 here on Calguns. One of the great FFLs

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/f...play.php?f=376

Mike at EBR Works gets them in occasionally too, another one of the greats

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Michael Bane evaluated one and bought the one he evaluated and now keeps it in the bedroom of his home loaded. He doesn't buy many of his T and E firearms. I personally think it's worth owning based on what I have read.
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Plenty in stock.

I also have the stilletto chokes. Standard is out of stock on them.
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It's the Super Shotgun from Quake!

Hahaha!! Wow...haven't thought about that game in ages!! Thanks for the memory jog, I spent many an hour playing that game.
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I wonder if the shotgun can be modified so that both barrels will discard at the same time with a single trigger pull?

If so, I'll want one for use as a handheld claymore mine, firing from the hip with 2 x 3 inch 00 buckshot, throwing out 30 pellets in that single shot. I'll use it for anti-riot purpose.
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Where are you all buying these from - directly from the company?
Guns Direct in Burbank usually has them in stock.
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Sadly, I got a lemon. Seems to happen to me about half the time these days with my gun purchases. I took it out shooting for the first time yesterday, and had problems.

My DP-12 has 2 serious defects. First, when there are rounds in the chamber, the slide lock won't lock. (And I assume the chamber isn't locked either.) I can just keep pulling it back and cycling rounds, without pulling the trigger or pushing the slide release. I was afraid to pull the trigger like this, as it was possible that it would fire out of battery and explode. (Being a bull-pup this would be especially bad.)

I figured out that if I pushed up on the slide release (very hard) simultaneously while cycling the action, I could get it to lock. So I could at least try firing it with the chambers locked. But then it would fail to fire the left-hand chamber about 50% of the time. It would go click. And upon examining the shells, I could see that it had very very lightly struck the primers.

I tried Federal and Winchester shells, all 2.75 inch, #8 shot, 00 buck, and slugs. All failed the same ways.
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It has 2, 8 round magazines.
It's 2 7-round magazines (assuming 2.75" shells) plus 2 in the chambers for total max of 16 loaded.
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Sadly, I got a lemon. Seems to happen to me about half the time these days with my gun purchases. I took it out shooting for the first time yesterday, and had problems.

My DP-12 has 2 serious defects. First, when there are rounds in the chamber, the slide lock won't lock. (And I assume the chamber isn't locked either.) I can just keep pulling it back and cycling rounds, without pulling the trigger or pushing the slide release. I was afraid to pull the trigger like this, as it was possible that it would fire out of battery and explode. (Being a bull-pup this would be especially bad.)

I figured out that if I pushed up on the slide release (hard) simultaneously while cycling the action, I could get it to lock. So I could at least try firing it with the chambers locked. But then it would fail to fire the left-hand chamber about 50% of the time. It would go click. And upon examining the shells, I could see that it had very very lightly struck the primers.

I tried Federal and Winchester shells, all 2.75 inch, #8 shot, 00 buck, and slugs. All failed the same ways.

I bought this shotgun over the KSG and other options because everywhere I read people stated that this is the highest quality of these types of shotguns. Well, mine isn't. Even if Standard/Connecticut fix it, I don't know that I could ever trust my life to this thing. It shipped from the factory with 2 major defects. I expected a lot more for the price they are asking.
Good to know, Mudcamper. Thank you for sharing your experiences and let us know what happens if you send it back for warranty repair.
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so, I know I asked before, and I guess the double tap method would apply.... But would this legally be only allowed to have 10 rounds? or would it be considered 2 guns with 1 trigger?
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so, I know I asked before, and I guess the double tap method would apply.... But would this legally be only allowed to have 10 rounds? or would it be considered 2 guns with 1 trigger?
It's not an issue with tube fed shotguns.
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Good to know, Mudcamper. Thank you for sharing your experiences and let us know what happens if you send it back for warranty repair.
So far so good. I contacted them through their website contact form. They emailed me back within minutes, called me within the hour, and emailed me a shipping label the same day.

They say they usually get items shipped back within a day of receiving them, but that my case sounds more serious so they may take a couple more days. That all sounds good to me.

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Good lord. I don't even want to ask how much these go for. I need one.
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As I already know how to run a pump, the change in pattern would make it a non starter for me
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Good lord. I don't even want to ask how much these go for. I need one.

just a mere $1,395.00
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At first I thought it looked dumb, then I seen it in action and good lawd it is a lot of fast firepower. I love double barrel shotguns, it's like a 16 shot double barrel that reloads with a pump. Yes, please.
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I was skeptical on these guns then I shot one. It worked for the most part. Only had one issue out of a 100 round box of skeet shot. I had a ftf when I had the mussel pointing down and racked it too quickly- not short stroked either- was able to duplicate and just didn't do it again afterwards. Was fun to shoot and I enjoyed it. But too heavy and not as smooth as my 590a1 and not even close to an old wingmaster. 16 rounds is great for the range but as a "working" gun for HD or SHTF if you need that many you brought the wrong gun. Fun times this gun will provide in abundance..
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just a mere $1,395.00
Around the low end for a decent o/u new.


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I was skeptical on these guns then I shot one. It worked for the most part. Only had one issue out of a 100 round box of skeet shot. I had a ftf when I had the mussel pointing down and racked it too quickly- not short stroked either- was able to duplicate and just didn't do it again afterwards. Was fun to shoot and I enjoyed it. But too heavy and not as smooth as my 590a1 and not even close to an old wingmaster. 16 rounds is great for the range but as a "working" gun for HD or SHTF if you need that many you brought the wrong gun. Fun times this gun will provide in abundance..
^This. If you go back in bullpen history, they tend to come and to go but never really have the buyer / user loyalty to stick around. Maybe too dedicated significant firepower with the resultant lack of versatility.

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I just watched this review-

Quirks-

If you fire 1 barrel, the gun cannot be placed on safe. You must cycle the action to remove the 1 fired hull and 1 live round. Once the hammers are cocked, it can go on safe.

If you load an uneven number of rounds, or if one side does not load from a tube, you end up with 1 barrel loaded and one empty. Them when you pull the trigger, you head a click not a bang as the firing pin dropped on an empty chamber... so you might believe you are empty...if you pull the trigger a second time... the other loaded chamber will fire.... so if you are the guy who pulls the trigger a second time to cycle the action, instead of using the slide release, an ND is a concern.

I would not want to be a student in a class where others had this shot gun and I will pass on it as a HD firearm.
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That's cool! not my thing but it would be a fun range toy.

me thinks the Bolsheviks will try to ban it.
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Status of my DP-12:

I shipped it to them (they paid) and it arrived on 3/8 at 1:11 PM.

They shipped it back to me on 3/10 at 5:12 PM. It's scheduled to get to me by 3/17 end of day.

I asked in an email if the shipment will include details as to what they did. I received the following reply, "Yes it will. But they ended up replacing the release bar. It's fully tested and no issues since."

Looking forward to testing it out upon return...
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I bought my dp-12 about 3 weeks ago. It's definitely eye candy and appears well built but haven't taken it to the range yet.

I have a few pistols but this is first shotgun. Does anyone recommend how to clean/maintain this thing? What's necessary?

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Also...for those who own one, what do you carry it in? Looking for suggestions

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Any of you guys that own the DP-12, I'd be very wary of letting friends/others handle/fire it. Handing this weapon off to someone not completely familiar with its operational quirks and the associated safety deficiencies could have tragic consequences.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, you need to watch the video below and pay close attention.

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Does anyone recommend how to clean/maintain this thing? What's necessary?
It looks like it's a bit of a pain in the ***. See from 5:30 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaW5qnYSpw0#t=05m30s for disassembly instructions.

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Depends on your purpose. If you are talking self-defense rounds, 00 buck or #4 buck are my favorites.
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Sorry, in terms of carrying, I meant type of case or bag : )
Right. I flipped "it in" to "in it".

I haven't figured that out yet. Even my shortest carbine case is too long.
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Update on my DP-12 service:

I received my shotgun back today. Paper with it simply stated, "Replaced release bar". I tested it (chambered and ejected shells) and it is functioning properly in that regard. Hopefully the light primer strikes were related to this same part that they replaced. (Perhaps it wasn't fully closing the bolt and that prevented the firing pin from hitting?)

I'm not sure when I'll find the time to test fire it, but will report back after I do.
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