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Old 03-09-2018, 8:11 PM
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https://imgur.com/AbBf5Q7What would be a good price range for a .22lr Ruger standard semiautomatic made in 1955? it's in pretty good condition. No rust, original box, and paperwork. thanks

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Old 03-10-2018, 5:29 AM
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Default Ruger .22lr standard

which model of semiauto pistol, revolver or rifle?


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Old 03-10-2018, 5:34 AM
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No idea what ruger you are referring to.
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Old 03-10-2018, 9:01 AM
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It's the standard. Before they started calling it the Ruger mark 1 semiautomatic pistol made in made in 1955.
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Old 03-10-2018, 9:03 AM
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Common fellas he's talking about what we all know as a .22 lr pistol that Ruger has been making since 1949.

They still make them with a MSRP of $449 in several configurations.

What would help is to know the age of the pistol he has found. Pre roll mark safety warning would be great as these look the nicest and are built to last .

Price range might be between $250-$400 but that would vary with barrel length .

Pictures or a partial serial number would help.

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Old 03-10-2018, 9:05 AM
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The Mark 1 and the standard are two different pistols. Standard has fixed sights while the MK 1 will have adjustable sights.

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tried to upload a picture but the site they have for URL doesn't seem to work that well. I couldn't log in after i signed up smh wth
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I saw the img url in your original post. Just a vintage Standard Model without the safety roll mark.

Ruger has made a lot of these so I don't see that a used old model should command a premium although there are a few exceptions.

The area on the gun that may be an issue is on the back of the grip where the lever for take down is located. Prying the lever up may have left marks.

Parts are easy to get and are simple to replace. I would not want to pay more than $300 if it is in good overall condition. Better at $225-$250.

My first pistol was the Standard for $54 about 1973 without the safety warning.

It's a good basic .22 but my MK1 is better and I shoot it a lot while the Standard model sits in the safe.

If you want to plink and the price is good go for the Standard. If you want to Target shoot get a MK 1,2 or 3 for the adjustable sights and a nice bull barrel.

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I have two of them. I wouldn't pay more than $350, and for that much it better be cherry.

Great guns though. Way more reliable than most other .22 autos.

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I got almost the same thing, but it is later model, MK II. It has aftermarket sights and I still couldn't sell it for $350.

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Pre 1972 or 73(can't remember which) are valued higher in a couple of the values books I've seen, IDK why, but think it's because it was around the time Ruger made some changes to them. It's also when they switched the side the button is on the magazine.
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Ruger Mark target pistols with long and bull barrel has more value than short and small barrel pistol.
If you selling it, since it is a none-Roster model then sell is as high as you can $450 or more (there is a sucker born every minute).
If you buying it, just to brag that I had a Ruger a Non-Roster pistol then pay $200 for it.
If you buy it to shoot then buy a bull barrel, target model with adjustable rear sight, or buy a Mark-4. Heck, if buy to shoot then buy a Buckmark.
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I paid $400 bro deal for this excellent condition 22/45 Mark II last month. PTP from a buddy.

Mark II is the one to get. No magazine disconnect safety and loaded chamber indicator! Later models have more options and ability to swap out grips though.
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I got a longer (5.5" I believe) tapered Ruger Standard Pistol, made in 1967, in very good conditioni about three months ago for $360.00, with one magazine, no box or papers.

I know there will be eighteen people telling you to "spend no more than $200.00 on one" or "I got one for $100.00", but good luck finding one for those prices.

How bad do you want it? I didn't buy it to collect, so as long as it was in good shape (and it was other than in serious need of a deep cleaning) and shoots well, that's all I cared about. And if I could fine another in that price range locally, I'd buy it.

I also got a High Standard HD-Military with a 4.5" barrel, in excellent condition for $400.00. No box, no papers, two magazines that work perfectly. Super accurate.

Yes, I'm sure most of you wouldn't spend more than $150.00 for that, but good luck finding one in that condition for less than I spent.
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The Mark 1 and the standard are two different pistols. Standard has fixed sights while the MK 1 will have adjustable sights.

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I think they're the same. In 1950 the target version was introduced, which had the adjustable sights. The other version(s) still had fixed sights.

I don't think there was really a MK I until there was a "MK II". At least it wasn't stamped on the pistol after it came out, but not on the MK I.
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I believe the MKI was the target version. Heavier barrels and adjustable sights. No Mark I markings on it, same lower receiver, just heavier, longer barrels and adjustable sights.

Or I could be wrong and it could be something completely different.
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I got a longer (5.5" I believe) tapered Ruger Standard Pistol, made in 1967, in very good conditioni about three months ago for $360.00, with one magazine, no box or papers.

I know there will be eighteen people telling you to "spend no more than $200.00 on one" or "I got one for $100.00", but good luck finding one for those prices.

How bad do you want it? I didn't buy it to collect, so as long as it was in good shape (and it was other than in serious need of a deep cleaning) and shoots well, that's all I cared about. And if I could fine another in that price range locally, I'd buy it.

I also got a High Standard HD-Military with a 4.5" barrel, in excellent condition for $400.00. No box, no papers, two magazines that work perfectly. Super accurate.

Yes, I'm sure most of you wouldn't spend more than $150.00 for that, but good luck finding one in that condition for less than I spent.
^This^

I did just about the same thing. Ruger Standard with 4.5" barrel in good condition with two mags and leather Hunter holster for $350 and an excellent condition High Standard HB 4.5" barrel with two mags and leather Hunter holster $450.

If I was in a free state I probably could have found the Ruger for less, not sure about the High Standard HB.
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I don't know why this is so hard. If one Googles Ruger just about anything one would need to know is out there.

All early frames were A100 type and I believe that this was the case up until 1982 with the introduction of the MK 2.

The MK I's were marked and had the safety warning roll marks probably sometime after 1974. I purchased my bull barrel model in 1982 the last year for the MK I. After that they incorporated the empty magazine hold open and the back of the slide was cut with finger grooves.



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The Mark I Target was not marked Target as seen in the photo.

There is a Mark II standard and a Mark II Target. There are lots of variations of barrel types and lengths and a few rare pricey models to be found.

A Government Target model or a Standard model marked "Hecho En Mexico"

will cost more. Find one with the red emblem on the grips and you have found a very early model.

Having models in various barrel lengths, sight configurations and stainless models to boot with over three million made expect to find many choices.

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I don't know why this is so hard. If one Googles Ruger just about anything one would need to know is out there.

All early frames were A100 type and I believe that this was the case up until 1982 with the introduction of the MK 2.

The MK I's were marked and had the safety warning roll marks probably sometime after 1974. I purchased my bull barrel model in 1982 the last year for the MK I. After that they incorporated the empty magazine hold open and the back of the slide was cut with finger grooves.



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Well, like I said, I could be wrong. But in my defense, its not "completely" different.
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The Mark I Target was not marked Target as seen in the photo.

There is a Mark II standard and a Mark II Target. There are lots of variations of barrel types and lengths and a few rare pricey models to be found.

A Government Target model or a Standard model marked "Hecho En Mexico"

will cost more. Find one with the red emblem on the grips and you have found a very early model.

Having models in various barrel lengths, sight configurations and stainless models to boot with over three million made expect to find many choices.

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Government Target models have had asking prices in the $1,000.00 range when they show up in the Calguns For Sale forum.

I'd like to have one, it not willing to p!$$ my money away for it.

Hell everyone seems to thing "off roster" means these $350.00 guns have turned into gold. To those people I say "good luck with the sale".
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I believe the MKI was the target version. Heavier barrels and adjustable sights. No Mark I markings on it, same lower receiver, just heavier, longer barrels and adjustable sights.

Or I could be wrong and it could be something completely different.
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Well, like I said, I could be wrong. But in my defense, its not "completely" different.
You was right. If it has MARK I stamped on it, it has adjustable rear sights, heavier barrel and same front sight as target model making it a target version.
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Government Target models have had asking prices in the $1,000.00 range when they show up in the Calguns For Sale forum.

I'd like to have one, it not willing to p!$$ my money away for it.

Hell everyone seems to thing "off roster" means these $350.00 guns have turned into gold. To those people I say "good luck with the sale".
That seems like a crazy high price. The Government Target is one of the models that is worth more $. I wouldn't think that much, but more than $350 especially if in very good condition with box and proof target.

The first brand new 22lr handgun I bought after I turned 21 was a Government Target Model, it's still a tack driver and I still have it and will until I can't shoot it or die, then one of my grandchildren will get it.
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I don't know why this is so hard. If one Googles Ruger just about anything one would need to know is out there.

All early frames were A100 type and I believe that this was the case up until 1982 with the introduction of the MK 2.

The MK I's were marked and had the safety warning roll marks probably sometime after 1974. I purchased my bull barrel model in 1982 the last year for the MK I. After that they incorporated the empty magazine hold open and the back of the slide was cut with finger grooves.


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Got it. I think we're on different subjects. I saw the original post was on the Ruger Standard, which I believe meant the standard, whether MK I, MK II, MK III or MK IV means the fixed sight tapered barrel original configuration. You mentioned the MK I, and my comment was on the standard (meaning from the series standpoint, the "MK I" Standard was not marked that way). I agree that the MK I Target was marked, and was marketed under the name MK I Target Model.

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Government Target models have had asking prices in the $1,000.00 range when they show up in the Calguns For Sale forum.

I'd like to have one, it not willing to p!$$ my money away for it.

Hell everyone seems to thing "off roster" means these $350.00 guns have turned into gold. To those people I say "good luck with the sale".
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Government Target models have had asking prices in the $1,000.00 range when they show up in the Calguns For Sale forum.

I'd like to have one, it not willing to p!$$ my money away for it.

Hell everyone seems to thing "off roster" means these $350.00 guns have turned into gold. To those people I say "good luck with the sale".
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I don't know why this is so hard. If one Googles Ruger just about anything one would need to know is out there.

All early frames were A100 type and I believe that this was the case up until 1982 with the introduction of the MK 2.

The MK I's were marked and had the safety warning roll marks probably sometime after 1974. I purchased my bull barrel model in 1982 the last year for the MK I. After that they incorporated the empty magazine hold open and the back of the slide was cut with finger grooves.

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Early frames are called A54 but are not marked that in any way. A54 only take "early" or A54 grips. These take magazines with the button on the right. You can use MKII and MKIII magazines in an A54 frame but you have to dissemble it and move the button to the right side.

They moved to A100 in 1971 and marked those frames with A100 under the grips on the left side.
A100 can take "late" MKI or MKII/III grips. They use MKII and MKIII magazines.


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