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Old 08-02-2018, 9:41 AM
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Leviticus 19:28 online Bible translations...


International Standard Version
"You are not to make incisions in your flesh on account of the dead nor submit to cuts or tattoos. I am the LORD.

New American Standard 1977
‘You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead, nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD.

American King James Version
You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks on you: I am the LORD.

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Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am Jehovah.

Douay-Rheims Bible
You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh, for the dead, neither shall you make in yourselves any figures or marks: I am the Lord.

Darby Bible Translation
And cuttings for a dead person shall ye not make in your flesh, nor put any tattoo writing upon you: I am Jehovah.

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"'You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you. I am Yahweh.
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Old 08-02-2018, 9:46 AM
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Of course. Most even mildly observant Jews don’t have any. I don’t even think you can be buried in a Jewish Cemetery with them but I could be wrong.
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Old 08-02-2018, 10:32 AM
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Tattoos spoken of in the bible are neither the purpose or intent of the tattoos discussed in the bible - tattoos as we know them are not prohibited by the bible, but may be prohibited by denominational rules - man made rules, not God's rules.
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As usual, everything is context. Many ancient cultures cut, made wounds, or tattoos in death rituals. Some were specific to the class of the one being mourned. God didn't want His people participating or mimicking other pagan funeral rites. It has nothing to do with modern tats.
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Can't eat shellfish or pork either. For that matter, you can't cut the sides of your hair, hold an employee's wages overnight, eat fruit from a tree for 3 years after planting, look at market forecasts (divination/omens), or eat rare meat. But feel free to rape your slaves as long as they're not engaged. If you do, it's okay, just have the priest sacrifice a ram and all is forgiven.

Clearly, some things are interesting for historical and cultural perspectives but should have absolutely no meaning for our everyday lives today.
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That's from the Torah, not the Bible. Even though it's often bound in the same book and called the Old Testament... (Edit: The Old Testament is only about a third of the contents of the Torah. Call it "selected works.")
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That's from the Torah, not the Bible. Even though it's often bound in the same book and called the Old Testament... (Edit: The Old Testament is only about a third of the contents of the Torah. Call it "selected works.")
Considering Jesus and the Apostles quoted the Torah, it's part of the scriptures. In fact, they even called it the "Scriptures". Just saying.
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The intent is to say do not mark yourself in pagan worship, whether it is in the form of scarring, painting, tattooing. You could easily extend it to mean clothing, piercings and anything else we may choose to display as a form of idol worship.

So in that vein, tattoos today are not inherently sinful, but certainly we could have tattoos that are in the same vein of idol worship, and that act of worship would be wrong. That said, if you were in a gang and were converted, I don't think removal of the tats is required for repentance and the tats do not continually imbue further sin upon the person with them. It's the act of worship, not the physical ink.
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^^^ Well said.
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This is a great example of context! You can't just pull this out of it's context and apply it to today. First, the context was Israel and specific pagan worship rituals that they had picked up from the pagan societies that they interacted with (but should haven't interacted with!). Second, it's under the Mosaic Law which Christ fulfilled for us and we are no longer under. The specific command is not repeated in the New Testament, so is not part of the Law of Christ / Law of God (Romans 7:22,25;1 Cor. 9:20-21). But, much is written about our worship in the NT!
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I would think the 10 commandments proscription of Graven Images would be observed by Christians too. Tear drops, barbed wire, Maori face spirals OK. Big tattoo of Thor on your chest, not OK.
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The prohibition of tattoos comes from man being created in God's image. Would anybody tattoo God? Also, We are a gift from God. Our bodies are not our personal property to do with what we wish.
If you are Christian, would you tattoo Jesus?
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The question asked is, "Does the Bible?" That's difficult to answer because there are two covenants outlined in the Bible, the Old and the New. That which was restricted under the old is not a restriction for those under the New.

“You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD.” – Leviticus 19:28

This verse has reference to the custom among the pagan nations to pierce themselves, or tattoo themselves when a member of the family died. Such tattooing or piercing was an effort to appease the idols they worshiped into accepting their departed relative. For an Israelite to pierce himself or tattoo himself was a sign that he was influenced by idolatry. This was sin.

This verse, however, cannot be applied to the kinds of tattoos that are associated with our culture today, except among pagan worshipers perhaps.

Also, tattoos and piercings were once used in a way similar to the way we “brand” cattle today. It demonstrated ownership. Slaves were “marked” indicating that they were an indentured servant to another. For most people today, this would not be applicable to the current situation of tattoos.

In the New Testament there are no prohibitions against tattoos. God certainly is concerned about the things that we do with our bodies (whether good or evil), but how we choose to decorate our bodies only becomes an issue in the matters of pride and vanity.

"We are not again commending ourselves to you but are giving you an occasion to be proud of us, so that you will have an answer for those who take pride in appearance and not in heart." - 2 Corinthians 5:12

A person who chooses to heed the Bible for his wisdom or obedience, would do well to remember that we do not belong to ourselves.

“Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.” – 1 Corinthians 6:19-20

We must be careful not to become too prideful in our selves. But we must also ask of anything we do with our bodies, “will this be harmful to my body?” If the answer is yes…….it may be something to reconsider.

Tattoos, as long as we can keep the pride in check and obtain them safely, are no sin.
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Hey OP,

Watch this link might help you better understand the book of Leviticus.

https://youtu.be/IJ-FekWUZzE
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Offhand, I think a lot of the biblical commands make sense when you think of the situation then. No one knew about bacteria or causes of infection, so the Bible prohibited tattoos - which also prevented infection and disease. "Dirty" meats were prohibited in a time when there was no refrigeration or knowledge of germs - now we know that undercooked pork is risky for trichinosis and other worms and diseases. If you want to protect your health, the Biblical commands are common sense. "Do not covet your neighbor's things" or commit adultery with your neighbor's wife - quick way to find yourself dead, even today. Just common sense.
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Tattoos have no bearing on your salvation. You are saved by the grace of God, through faith in Jesus Christ.
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Offhand, I think a lot of the biblical commands make sense when you think of the situation then. No one knew about bacteria or causes of infection, so the Bible prohibited tattoos - which also prevented infection and disease. "Dirty" meats were prohibited in a time when there was no refrigeration or knowledge of germs - now we know that undercooked pork is risky for trichinosis and other worms and diseases. If you want to protect your health, the Biblical commands are common sense. "Do not covet your neighbor's things" or commit adultery with your neighbor's wife - quick way to find yourself dead, even today. Just common sense.
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The scriptures teach that the wicked Mark themselves.
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The Commandments are eternal principals of happiness.
Follow the principals of the God of LOVE and you will live HAPPILY.
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Pride is the universal sin but what does that have to do with tattoos?
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Yes it does. We can sit here a debate Leviticus and say it was for the pagans and it was Old Testament and blah blah blah. If you’re a devout Christian you should not mark your body. God created you in His image, why would you change that? If you already have tattoos that doesn’t mean you can’t be saved either. Come as you are.
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My question is, is this verse dealing with one issue? Or two?
One issue: A person is to neither cut, nor mark(tattoo), their flesh in remembrance of the dead.
Two issues: Don't cut your flesh to remember the dead, nor mark it with a tattoo at anytime.

One is a specific prohibition for a specific incident, the other is a general prohibition for any time.
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Context matters.
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Psalms 147: 19, 20. "He declares his word to Jacob,
His regulations and judgments to Israel. He has not done so with any other nation; They know nothing about his judgments.
Praise Jah!"

Rom 10:4 "For Christ is the end of the Law, so that everyone exercising faith may have righteousness."
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Psalms 147: 19, 20. "He declares his word to Jacob,
His regulations and judgments to Israel. He has not done so with any other nation; They know nothing about his judgments.
Praise Jah!"

Rom 10:4 "For Christ is the end of the Law, so that everyone exercising faith may have righteousness."


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This is true

Tat free & staying that way, thank you
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Better to make a scrap book than to get a tattoo, even though they won't get as much attention or appear like a tough guy.
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The great thing about this question that it is not a salvation issue, I hear are body is a temple true but what when Christ came and died it went deeper than body it was all heart GOD wants your heart. You can have no tats and be useless to GOD.

First before anything if you feel that you would like a tattoo before seeking mans judgement go to the one who is the judge, when I got saved at 19 I seen a picture that was beautiful and resembled to me the storms of life and Hanging on to GOD. I prayed and prayed and I got it and I didn’t feel convicted or for that matter condemned even till this day GOD never told me it was wrong.

I feel it’s between you and GOD if you feel they are not good or if you do let GOD be the final word.
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Then Jesus came and died for us, and the only law now is to love your neighbor as yourself.
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Tattoos have no bearing on your salvation. You are saved by the grace of God, through faith in Jesus Christ.
Bing. Bing. Bing. We have a winner!

Understanding that, I was going get a VDMA tattoo like

But I went through 19 years in the Navy and never got a tattoo (despite plenty of opportunities) and just couldn't bring myself to do it. But even my wife thinks it's cool and I may get it someday.

Looking up the significance of VDMA is left as an exercise for the reader.
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Bing. Bing. Bing. We have a winner!

Understanding that, I was going get a VDMA tattoo like

But I went through 19 years in the Navy and never got a tattoo (despite plenty of opportunities) and just couldn't bring myself to do it. But even my wife thinks it's cool and I may get it someday.

Looking up the significance of VDMA is left as an exercise for the reader.
Thank you for that I just learned some new about the Reformation.

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Apostle Peter in his first epistle (1 Pt. 1:24-5). Both scriptural passages refer to the eternal faithfulness of God and his living Word. The unchanging faithfulness of God to his Word is at the very heart of the gospel as understood by the Lutheran reformers.
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https://biblehub.com/leviticus/19-28.htm

Leviticus 19:28 online Bible translations...


International Standard Version
"You are not to make incisions in your flesh on account of the dead nor submit to cuts or tattoos. I am the LORD.

New American Standard 1977
‘You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead, nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD.

American King James Version
You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks on you: I am the LORD.

American Standard Version
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am Jehovah.

Douay-Rheims Bible
You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh, for the dead, neither shall you make in yourselves any figures or marks: I am the Lord.

Darby Bible Translation
And cuttings for a dead person shall ye not make in your flesh, nor put any tattoo writing upon you: I am Jehovah.

World English Bible
"'You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you. I am Yahweh.
No your translation is wrong, if you read my Uncle Willie translation Cuts actually refers to putting sandwich meats on your body and Tattoo actually refers to sex with some short guy from the 80's.
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