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Mounted a scope and it's maxxed out on windage, and almost maxxed on elevation...
I mounted a new scope with new mounts and bore sighted it. The scope is maxxed to the left on windage with 2 clicks remaining and maxxed on elevation with 4 mils left over.
There is almost nothing left over for adjustments. Before I return the scope, what can I do to check if I am not making a mistake. Is it possible my 1 piece SWFA Tactical scope mount is tweaked? Advice appreciated. Last edited by MarikinaMan; 02-06-2016 at 7:48 PM.. |
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The scope is a Primary Arms 4-14 mil dot.
I am bore sighting it at 30 feet to a 1 inch red circle by peering into the bore, sighting the red dot and aligning the reticle to the dot as well. This method has been successful for me in the past. It gets me on paper within 2-3 inches at 50 yards. The scope mount is an SWFA SALT tactical mount. The mount was checked for alignment with a Wheeler tool and is torqued to the rail. The scope was also leveled. Last edited by MarikinaMan; 02-06-2016 at 7:59 PM.. |
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As far as I know, the mount is clamped onto the rail fine. There's not much I can see to adjust. Thanks! |
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If you send it back after bore-sighting at 30 feet they will laugh almost as hard as I did.
You may as well use duct tape and a ball peen hammer.
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http://youtu.be/DF07A7HaR38 http://youtu.be/UgB9J9Bt_Rs Last edited by MarikinaMan; 02-07-2016 at 6:14 AM.. |
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Were the adjusters centered before you mounted...half way between full left and full right and between full up and full down? You'd be surprised how many scope are not centered.
Also, are your mounts aligned with the barrel. Last edited by Jeepergeo; 02-07-2016 at 8:06 AM.. |
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I'm bore sighting it. The scope's gotta be reasonably sighted in before I attempt to take it to the range and hope to zero it.
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Have you checked to see that your mounts are aligned properly on your rifle? I'm not talking about the mount to scope part, I'm talking about the rifle to mount part.
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Besides an inspection of the installation of the mount to the rail, I don't really know how to check a mount if it's tweaked. I will do some more tests, including mounting another scope to rule out the mount. Last edited by MarikinaMan; 02-07-2016 at 7:27 AM.. |
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For elevation, recenter and try Burris rings that use the offset inserts.
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Do you have a lapping bar? If so, you could use it to check the alignment of the rings to each other. I guess we should ask what type of rifle you are mounting this to? And, have you mounted another optic and/or mounts to it? If so, were they zeroed pretty close to the mechanical zero? If it's an AR or other rifle where the barrel can be easily changed, has the barrel been removed before? Do you know that the barrel is tight and true to the receiver? Where are you located? If you're close enough to me, I'm willing to take a look at it and maybe, try a different optic or mount to see if it makes a difference.
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Is this a new rifle or one you have used with a scope previously? If new then it is probably the rifle. If not then the most likely culprit is the mount/rings and lastly the scope.
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Sounds like my Mini-14.
I think the receiver was not well machined on mine.
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Glad my mouth wasn't full when I read that.
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Thanks! Crown Royal right out through my nose. That was a funny quote right there!!!
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Got back from a short range session. The wind was really bad at Angeles, my target frames kept getting pushed over.
Before I left this morning, I turned the turrets to maximum a few times. They felt weird. I popped the turret off, and found the little o-rings in both the turrets chewed up. Not the large ones, but the ones sitting on the turret shaft. Luckily, I have an o-ring set I keep for bike repairs. Replaced the o-rings and turned the turrets to their max ranges for good measures. The bore sighting now gives me 17 and 17.5 mils of up and down elevation. The windage is now sighted at 13.5 mils right to top out and 23.6 mils left to bottom out with a right bias. 135 clicks of windaget to one side is plenty. Got to the range and zeroed it a fity yards. 2 clicks windage and 3 on the elevation and I'm on. The bad part is I did not get dope at 100. Not only were the targets swinging wildly from the winds, my target frames blew over and worse, were blown away a multiple times. I was hitting it, but the targets didn't stay up long enough to get a group going. I'll keep the scope another week. I consistently got less than 1 inch groups at 50 when the target stayed up. At least it's holding zero. I'll know if it tracks well next time. Last edited by MarikinaMan; 02-07-2016 at 8:15 PM.. |
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I think that may be it. I didn't find anything else wrong, and my elevations suddenly had almost the same range up and down. My windage is still off to one side, but not bad enough that I don't have enough adjustment range.
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That said, if you ever decide to try to get your mechanical zero closer to your actual zero, I have a secret method to "adjust" your barrel to make your POI closer to your POA, LOL.
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