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Old 03-10-2018, 11:09 AM
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What the hell are "social-emotional skills"????????????

Just like the Nazi's and Communists.. they are turning the children against their parents.

These leftist monsters love using children to further their communist agenda. Always have.
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I'm starting to think it's because the Left always needs "something" to fight against, their entire movement needs an adversary. They won abortion, then they won gay marriage, so if they didn't go after the Second Amendment they'd have nothing to focus on, and their movement would fall apart. If they did take down the Second Amendment they'd have to find some other new thing to destroy.
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I'm starting to think it's because the Left always needs "something" to fight against, their entire movement needs an adversary. They won abortion, then they won gay marriage, so if they didn't go after the Second Amendment they'd have nothing to focus on, and their movement would fall apart. If they did take down the Second Amendment they'd have to find some other new thing to destroy.
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Call your kids in sick and have them lay low for the day. That's my advice.
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Call your kids in sick and have them lay low for the day. That's my advice.
No No and SUPER NO. I agree, keep your kids out but if you call your kids in sick, that's considered an "excused absence" and the school still collects their ADA (Average Daily Attendance). Better just to keep them out with no excuse.

You can bet the farm all the schools/district promoting participation are making sure to account for attendance ... in the morning before the walk-out.
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I'm starting to think it's because the Left always needs "something" to fight against, their entire movement needs an adversary. They won abortion, then they won gay marriage, so if they didn't go after the Second Amendment they'd have nothing to focus on, and their movement would fall apart. If they did take down the Second Amendment they'd have to find some other new thing to destroy.
That's why it's in their interest to keep poverty and racism going strong..
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No No and SUPER NO. I agree, keep your kids out but if you call your kids in sick, that's considered an "excused absence" and the school still collects their ADA (Average Daily Attendance). Better just to keep them out with no excuse.

You can bet the farm all the schools/district promoting participation are making sure to account for attendance ... in the morning before the walk-out.
Yep.. my kids just won't show up.. we have better things to do than be props for Progs..
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This seems relevant.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...r=1.&article=2.

https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/opin...fs/93-1201.pdf

If a school district can prohibit an educators political speech during class, they likewise can limit participation in political speech imposed by same.
Based on this, are the school districts within their rights to do what they are doing?
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Based on this, are the school districts within their rights to do what they are doing?
School districts do not have rights, they have obligations... primarily to see to it that education occurs in their schools. Political speech, either promoted by the staff or by the students with the support of the staff is something they have the power to squelch, because the school district has an obligation to remain focused on education and to remain apolitical. If people cared, they would show up at school board meetings to raise a stink over this distraction.
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Based on this, are the school districts within their rights to do what they are doing?
I think the school district has crossed the line in spite of their “teaching moment” assertion. Perhaps an outraged parent in the district could contact Pacific Legal Foundation for a pro-bono challenge.
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If people cared, they would show up at school board meetings to raise a stink over this distraction.
The majority of people in this district approve. Typical Eloi.
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I haven't heard of anything similar at the district where I work. Pretty unlikely here, since the Super has a Hello Kitty AK47 sticker on his Humvee.
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CA government-run schools are not schools.

They are ideological indoctrination centers, Daycare facilities, prisons for children, and many other despicable things, but schools they most certainly are not.
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What can parents do in the SF Bay Area - we're screwed. I try to explain the way things really are to my son, to undo some of the damage, but it's hard.
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Does any one still think "The Kids" are organizing and funding those nationwide anti- Constitution Bolshevik type demonstrations on their own?

This is a directed and lead effort by Soro's, Obama and the Progressive/Communist usual suspects. The Teachers unions are packed to the gills with hard core Socialists, Communists and leftists of every stripe. And will do what they are told in regards to pushing the political line of the New Democrat Radical Left.

They IMO pre- planned this operation to take advantage of the next monster, the speed that it happened seems to point in that direction.

***"Despite recent tragic events in our country, Burlingame School District is hopeful that we as a nation are moving toward solutions that will keep our schools and children safe. In the meantime, we continue to empower our students by teaching them social-emotional skills and providing age-appropriate activities that give them "voice."

Several of the soft skills we have been working on can be seen in the reaction of our Middle School Students to the Political Action Events scheduled in the next few weeks. Our BIS students are working with Principal Scott, PTA, and the community to let their voices be heard in a constructive and contributory fashion. Our Elementary Principals are working with staff, PTA, and students to take this opportunity to provide a "teaching moment" that is developmentally appropriate for this age group of students."**

This letter needs to be forwarded to some real news organizations for the exposing of the truth.

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Reply to my letter to the school:

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Dear Mr. XXXXX,

Our school is not leading a group effort to support the walk-out on March 14th. That being said we are preparing for students who choose to exercise their right to walk-out by making sure we have a plan in place for student safety.

Thank you,

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Hello Ms XXX,

So, kids are allowed and "have the right" to walk out of class whenever they see fit? Can my kids decide to walk out to for whatever cause they want to support or protest? This is what I don't get. So, for example, if they felt like exercising their rights by walking out of class to protest abortion, then they would be able to do so without any consequences? Or maybe they want to walk out to recognized the 28 people killed everyday by drunk drivers. I send my kids to school to be educated, not to walk out of class or have class disrupted by those walking out of class for whatever is the "cause de jure".

My feelings is that by telling 7 and 8th graders that "If you want to walk out during class you won't have consequences" that you are inviting kids to do so since it's a lot more exciting than sitting in class and doing the whole education thing. It also leaves those that don't want to be in the circus to explain to the other why they aren't participating.

As a parent I wonder who runs the school, the administrators or the children.

I know you're in a tough spot, but I have a hard time buying that the school is ok with kids "exercising their rights" by walking out of class for any cause. And I would feel this way even if it was a cause I believed in.

In any event, thank you for the reply.

Best Regards,
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It's happening here at Utah high schools as well.
Also will not be penalized.
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It's happening here at Utah high schools as well.
Also will not be penalized.
My kids go to middle school.. like and 7/8th graders have a clue about rights and amendments.. lol
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The letters have been forwarded to some real news outlets- nation wide

IMO they show direction by outside forces of the High School students.

Hopeful that the the school boards/teachers union will get some phone calls soon.

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CA government-run schools are not schools.

They are ideological indoctrination centers, Daycare facilities, prisons for children, and many other despicable things, but schools they most certainly are not.
Sights on lowering the voting age to 16 hoping to guide our kids to vote Democrat.
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Local Washington State private Jesuit High school is promoting a walk out too.

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If a school/educators wanted to discuss a current issue with my little man I would expect a reasonable and fair process as follows...

Spend a full morning on the topic. The class would have a old style structured debate. Split the class in two (for and against) by a random draw and give them a couple to research the issue before the debate. Teachers to act as impartial and balanced moderators.

The same process to be used for any topic, politics, environment, world affairs, etc. It teachers the kids to use a fact based approach.

I'm not a fan of a walk out.
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if this doesn't wake you up to home schooling/private school, nothing well
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It is not right. What is the management of the school thinking about?
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Schools have no right to get behind a student walk out. Thier role is to teach the children in school.
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I'm leaving work early tomorrow so I can berate and trigger high school kids. Should be fun. Kids themselves mean everything, their opinions however are next to useless.
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I'm leaving work early tomorrow so I can berate and trigger high school kids. Should be fun. Kids themselves mean everything, their opinions however are next to useless.
That's the kind of attitude and thinking that will just reinforce their opinion and achieve nothing - but I suspect it will make you feel good, so have fun.
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And here it will be a weekly school event...Fox 13 Utah reporting a lot about this.

http://fox13now.com/2018/02/26/stude...hange-is-made/
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And here it will be a weekly school event...Fox 13 Utah reporting a lot about this.

http://fox13now.com/2018/02/26/stude...hange-is-made/
Wow, I would't have expected that in Utah.
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Wow, I would't have expected that in Utah.
The movement is national. There'll be plenty of walkouts including in red states, and including in deep red counties. The gap is generational and it sounds like many pro-2A folks haven't been paying attention to it.
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The movement is national. There'll be plenty of walkouts including in red states, and including in deep red counties. The gap is generational and it sounds like many pro-2A folks haven't been paying attention to it.
Well, there it is right there ^

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Apparently, some kids at my son's middle school staged their own little version of this (a surprise to me in our neighborhood). He was one of 8 kids who STAYED in the classroom. Two of them were Boy Scouts, like him. I was glad to hear that. The teacher still ran the class like normal, and the kids who left missed the quiz that he gave while they were gone. I guess sometimes passive aggressive behavior can be good.

My neighbor's daughter was the only one in her class who stayed. The school seemed to want nothing to do with it, but couldn't do much to stop it. It seemed that 90+% of the kids didn't even know why they were leaving class. They just left because everyone else was leaving.
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There should have been massive counter-protests with everyone carrying big signs saying, "HANG NIKOLAS CRUZ". Do these kids even realize there was an person who was responsible for the murders? Have they even considered this for a moment? Where is the justice in punishing inanimate objects and law-abiding citizens? It's really creepy how people are so out of touch with reason and reality these days.
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Spend a full morning on the topic. The class would have a old style structured debate. Split the class in two (for and against) by a random draw and give them a couple to research the issue before the debate. Teachers to act as impartial and balanced moderators.
I do not have faith that most teachers would be impartial, fair, and balanced. Especially in CA.
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If you care about your kids you will go to the ends of the earth to find a decent private school and the means to pay for it.

Otherwise, you become your own kid's worst enemy.
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http://www.glennbeck.com/2018/03/14/...aign=glennbeck


Don't care much for Glenn Beck but he has some info on the Prog/Comm, puppet masters behind the red diaper "Women's March" anti constitution Children's crusade

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If you care about your kids you will go to the ends of the earth to find a decent private school and the means to pay for it.

Otherwise, you become your own kid's worst enemy.
I might be making that move, but mostly for academic reasons, to give my kids more of a challenge. Of course, it's never going to be perfect at any school. I'm not worried about my kids getting "indoctrinated." My wife is always home with the kids, and I work from home a lot, so they get plenty of time with us to learn the way things really work.

Even at the most prestigious private schools this kind of stuff goes on. I teach for one of the top independent schools in the country, and even there they did their own version of a walkout. I didn't have any classes at that time, so I didn't care.
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Kids in class asked my son "Where were you yesterday and not at the walkout" he told them he believes in the 2nd Amendment and feels we have the right to weapons to defend ourselves (he's 13).. the teacher overhead and told him to be quiet since "many other have different beliefs"..

So, they are all for free expression, so long as it's the right expression..
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Kids in class asked my son "Where were you yesterday and not at the walkout" he told them he believes in the 2nd Amendment and feels we have the right to weapons to defend ourselves (he's 13).. the teacher overhead and told him to be quiet since "many other have different beliefs"..

So, they are all for free expression, so long as it's the right expression..
I'm always amazed at how "beliefs" are more important that logic and facts.

Be sure to tell your son not to give those kids money when they're holding up cardboard signs in a few years.
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Kids in class asked my son "Where were you yesterday and not at the walkout" he told them he believes in the 2nd Amendment and feels we have the right to weapons to defend ourselves (he's 13).. the teacher overhead and told him to be quiet since "many other have different beliefs"..

So, they are all for free expression, so long as it's the right expression..
So, the teacher infringed upon his First Amendment rights because others don't believe in the Second Amendment.

That's two out of ten in one act.

Eight to go.
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