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Old 06-05-2018, 10:42 PM
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My personal wish, based upon NOTHING, is that Kennedy announces this coming Friday.

It will be on a Friday, so the news will slowly disseminate through the public over the weekend rather than being the top news story on a weekday.

I won't be in May, so it won't look like he's buckled to the political pressure Grassley put in urging him to announce "yesterday."

It will be the 1st of June, so the Senate will have adequate time to shepherd his replacement through the process.

But, like I said, I base that upon NOTHING. JM2C YMMV
Well, I was wrong about that.

If Kennedy doesn't announce his retirement by the 4th of July, I hope Thomas announces his retirement so that Trump can replace him with a Scalia clone.

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None of them are going anywhere. Trump is why.
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Old 06-13-2018, 9:14 AM
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None of them are going anywhere. Trump is why.
I share that belief. I think, in their eyes, to retire under Trump is to recognize him as legitimate and respect his ability to choose a suitable replacement. Ds don't retire under RS for this reason. Rs don't retire under Ds for this reason. Nobody retires under Trump if thy have any choice in the matter.
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What is illegitimate about Trump?
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They (the liberal progressives) will tell you that he is illegitimate because Hillary won the popular vote. This has been promulgated mostly by CNN (the Clinton News Network). They conveniently ignore the fact the Electoral College is the law of the land and the popular vote in Presidential elections means nothing. The founders deliberately put it there to prevent Virginia from controlling the rest of the country. They are attempting to end run it again and again but the rest of the country is not disposed to hand control over to CA and NY.

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There is nothing liberal or progressive about adhering to 19th century populism and debunked economic "theories".

Waiting on Ginzburg and Kennedy being replaced very soon.
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Within a week we should know if a SCOTUS justice will retire.

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Within a week we should know if a SCOTUS justice will retire.
There is a "Non-Argument" day scheduled for Monday, 25 June.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_ar...rtCalendar.pdf

That's the last day on this calendar, and any retirements would be hled until then. Once the business of this term is completed, we may see some movement.
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I had this crazy dream the other night that Kennedy announces his retirement next week and then that very same night RBG croaks. The left subsequently TOTALLY freaked out, a massive meltdown ensued and libtard heads started to EXPOLDE!
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I had this crazy dream the other night that Kennedy announces his retirement next week and then that very same night RBG croaks.
I hope to god you're prescient. If this actually happens.... I will build a shrine to you and use it to sacrifice spent brass and photographs of traitorous legislators
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There is a "Non-Argument" day scheduled for Monday, 25 June.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_ar...rtCalendar.pdf

That's the last day on this calendar, and any retirements would be hled until then. Once the business of this term is completed, we may see some movement.
Acc to SCOTUS blog, they'll be releasing opinions tomorrow/Tues as well.

http://www.scotusblog.com/events/
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Acc to SCOTUS blog, they'll be releasing opinions tomorrow/Tues as well.

http://www.scotusblog.com/events/
Opinions will also be released tomorrow, Wednesday/June 27th......
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Now that we all understand that no justice will "retire" under Trump, who is slated to die off first? We know that those old birds won't last until 2024.
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We do? When did we decide no one is going to retire? We don't even know about Kennedy this year yet.

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Kennedy just announced retirement.
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Kennedy retiring July 31: https://www.yahoo.com/news/justice-k...-politics.html
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I had this crazy dream the other night that Kennedy announces his retirement next week and then that very same night RBG croaks. The left subsequently TOTALLY freaked out, a massive meltdown ensued and libtard heads started to EXPOLDE!
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I hope to god you're prescient. If this actually happens.... I will build a shrine to you and use it to sacrifice spent brass and photographs of traitorous legislators
Well boys.....

Today half my dream has come true, now hopefully that shrine gets built!!!
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Now that we all understand that no justice will "retire" under Trump, who is slated to die off first? We know that those old birds won't last until 2024.
NEGATIVE!!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...to-retire.html

Justice Anthony Kennedy announced Wednesday that he is retiring, giving President Trump a critical opportunity to move the Supreme Court more solidly to the right in what promises to be an epic confirmation fight.

The 81-year-old senior associate justice informed the White House in a letter of his intention to step down from the high court after 30 years, effective July 31. Rumors of another vacancy have reverberated across Washington in recent months, and it comes a year after Kennedy's former law clerk Justice Neil Gorsuch, took over the seat occupied by the late Justice Antonin Scalia.
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Hopefully this is enough to make someone's heart skip a few too many beats
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Buckle up: SCOTUS Fireworks to extend far beyond the 4th... Margin for error is thin with McCain MIA, Flake rebelling (said before today he won't vote for judicial nominees until Senate votes on tariffs), Corker doing his thing (neither of the last two subject to re-election or political enticement). And the Dems (even those in red states like Manchin) are going to be under extreme pressure to hold the blue line.
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Buckle up: SCOTUS Fireworks to extend far beyond the 4th... Margin for error is thin with McCain MIA, Flake rebelling (said before today he won't vote for judicial nominees until Senate votes on tariffs), Corker doing his thing (neither of the last two subject to re-election or political enticement). And the Dems (even those in red states like Manchin) are going to be under extreme pressure to hold the blue line.
All very good points and we can now thank the moron voters of Alabama who stayed home and helped elect another Democrat to the Senate which is now looming large with such a thin Republican margin.

We should easily pick-up a few Senate seats this November, so I am not too worried, however that could delay a new justice well into the next SCOTUS term until the Senate composition is officially changed in January/2019.

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While this is definitely something to celebrate (Kennedy probably wasn't on our side re. RBA or the other 2nd A cases denied cert., IOW Kennedy was a "swing vote" re. the 2nd A), the real party won't be until an anti (RBG, Breyer, Sotomayor or Kagan) is replaced by a pro.

But for today, it is a time of celebration because Trump should be able to get another "Scalia clone" on the Bench before the Nov midterm elections.



Then, if the GOP retains control of the Senate in Nov, I hope Thomas soon retires (nothing against him, he's been FANTASTIC!!!), so that Trump can get a 3rd Scalia clone (or a Thomas clone). And then, if an anti leaves ...
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Buckle up: SCOTUS Fireworks to extend far beyond the 4th... Margin for error is thin with McCain MIA, Flake rebelling (said before today he won't vote for judicial nominees until Senate votes on tariffs), Corker doing his thing (neither of the last two subject to re-election or political enticement). And the Dems (even those in red states like Manchin) are going to be under extreme pressure to hold the blue line.
The current balance is 51:49. Even with two GOP Senators abstaining from the vote, Pence's voice will the decisive. I don't foresee any issue, unless Trump changes his tactics.

Kennedy was mostly pro-2A, that probably won't change much for us, but this replacement may solidify the conservative line on other issues. Ginsburg won't voluntary retire in the current political layout.

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Retaining control of the Senate remains critical.

If you're one of those who believe that Kennedy was the reason for the unfavorable language in Heller, this is a nice upgrade, but we'll have to see just how pro-2A Roberts is, and that's assuming Trump's two picks come through as pro-2A.

If Roberts and Trump's twins are pro-2A, then we have 5 votes, and need nothing from anyone. We can grant cert to any case we want, and we cannot be stopped from winning it. If Roberts is as wishy-washy as he seems, then we still need Ginsburg / Breyer to retire.

Imagine if Trump gets re-elected, and Ginsburg, Thomas and Breyer all retire. If all of Trump's replacements are pro-2A, we will never lose another 2A case in our lifetimes.
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The current balance is 51:49. Even with two GOP Senators abstaining from the vote, Pence's voice will the decisive. I don't foresee any issue, unless Trump changes his tactics.

Kennedy was mostly pro-2A, that probably won't change much for us, but this replacement may solidify the conservative line on other issues.
While Kennedy was part of "the Heller five" there has been much speculation that he has been the impediment to all recent RKBA cases being denied cert.

Replacing Kennedy is a huge win for the RKBA!
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