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Old 07-10-2018, 12:12 AM
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However, if even Tennessee and Texas are now considering laws to create storage requirements, not to mention Republicans being those pushing them, what might that suggest?
The simplest explanation is the same as that behind the ban on disposable grocery bags in Calif: some companies stand to profit greatly from the restrictions.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/califor...-ban-windfall/

For example, the trigger lock requirement in many states means companies that make trigger locks sell millions more trigger locks than they would were the market for trigger locks truly free/voluntary.

Gun safe makers almost certainly lobbied Republicans and Democrats hard for these firearm storage laws.
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The simplest explanation is the same as that behind the ban on disposable grocery bags in Calif: some companies stand to profit greatly from the restrictions.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/califor...-ban-windfall/

For example, the trigger lock requirement in many states means companies that make trigger locks sell millions more trigger locks than they would were the market for trigger locks truly free/voluntary.

Gun safe makers almost certainly lobbied Republicans and Democrats hard for these firearm storage laws.
I agree 100%
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Old 07-12-2018, 9:48 PM
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"They need to be talking about stiffer penalties for people that steal guns."

This... +1000

We need to secure- but if someone steals your things- it is the GD thief's fault. Not the material object or owners fault.

Someone steals a hammer, and hits someone with it- is it the owners fault?

In general- I think most gun safety laws that are floated have little or nothing to do with "safety" and much to do with the politics of making criminals out of gun owners.

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Old 07-13-2018, 11:30 AM
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Tennessee was referred to as the "patron State of shooting stuff"

However, if even Tennessee and Texas are now considering laws to create storage requirements, not to mention Republicans being those pushing them, what might that suggest?
Funny , here in TN we got what is called a " Castle Doctrine" , that includes your car . No need for a carry permit to have a loaded firearm ( either handgun or rifle ) in your car . 95% of the nice people I have met have a "glove box" gun , or the rifle rack , with rifle , in the back window of their truck .

Don't hear of many folks having a problem with this type of storage. And as a little note , most folks here don't even lock their cars when going shopping .

Wonder why ?
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"They need to be talking about stiffer penalties for people that steal guns."

This... +1000

We need to secure- but if someone steals your things- it is the GD thief's fault. Not the material object or owners fault.

Someone steals a hammer, and hits someone with it- is it the owners fault?

In general- I think most gun safety laws that are floated have little or nothing to do with "safety" and much to do with the politics of making criminals out of gun owners.




I agree that safety is not a real concern of most gun laws but instead the real purpose is mass disarmament of the public.
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Funny , here in TN we got what is called a " Castle Doctrine" , that includes your car . No need for a carry permit to have a loaded firearm ( either handgun or rifle ) in your car . 95% of the nice people I have met have a "glove box" gun , or the rifle rack , with rifle , in the back window of their truck .

Don't hear of many folks having a problem with this type of storage. And as a little note , most folks here don't even lock their cars when going shopping .

Wonder why ?
That's the way I grew up.

Kinda makes you wonder why the politicians, particularly Republican politicians, are trying to introduce more stringent laws/penalties in relation to storage.

Is it a solution in search of a problem, a politician cultivating support from a specific group, the seeking of publicity in an attempt to look relevant, or something potentially more nefarious.
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That's the way I grew up.

Kinda makes you wonder why the politicians, particularly Republican politicians, are trying to introduce more stringent laws/penalties in relation to storage.

Is it a solution in search of a problem, a politician cultivating support from a specific group, the seeking of publicity in an attempt to look relevant, or something potentially more nefarious.
I will go with potentially more nefarious because there is a push toward disarmament on a world wide level. Gun laws are to make it more difficult to own and use firearms for self defense and some people including Republicans have already drink the kool aid that says firearms are to dangerous to be in society.
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