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Old 07-12-2019, 11:02 AM
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Question Grandfather Passed Away - Need Help ID'ing Guns

Hey CalGunners, hopefully my post is in the correct section.

Unfortunately, my fiancee's grandfather passed away recently and I've been asked by the family to identify and provide value estimates of these guns to the estate. I have not seen the guns but have been sent two photos. The picture quality is poor but I'm hoping you all can help me identify them.

I have an idea of what they are but would like to know your thoughts on what they are and what they are worth.

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Old 07-12-2019, 11:06 AM
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Auto Ordinance 1911
looks like a Colt police

If it were my grandpa I would never ever let them go for any price. Especially the revolver.
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The first one identifies as mine.

Second one identifies as yours.


J/k OP sorry for your loss
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Old 07-12-2019, 11:30 AM
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Auto Ordinance 1911
looks like a Colt police

If it were my grandpa I would never ever let them go for any price. Especially the revolver.
The revolver looks more specifically like a Colt Lawman MK III to me
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Old 07-12-2019, 11:32 AM
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As far as value, take them to a local gun store that has "the blue book of gun values".

You probably don't want to be liable if your valuations are wrong.
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The Auto Ordnance 1911 is still in production, I've seen them under $500 in free state's.

The revolver may have had some work done to it. Without a hands on inspection I wouldn't even take a guess on value. I don't think those grips are original to the gun, I can't recall ever seeing a Colt with a fixed rear sight and ramp front sight, usually it's a blade front, but it could be the angle that's making it look non factory
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The revolver looks more specifically like a Colt Lawman MK III to me
Agreed.
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The revolver looks more specifically like a Colt Lawman MK III to me
Concur
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DO NOT CLEAN THEM OR ANYTHING ... you will actually damage the guns and reduce the value. If they are dirty leave it that way.
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DO NOT CLEAN THEM OR ANYTHING ... you will actually damage the guns and reduce the value. If they are dirty leave it that way.
I get it if there is some rusty areas or something, but really? A good light oil rub down the barrel will ruin their value? Looks like they are shooters...
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The Auto Ordnance 1911 is still in production, I've seen them under $500 in free state's.

The revolver may have had some work done to it. Without a hands on inspection I wouldn't even take a guess on value. I don't think those grips are original to the gun, I can't recall ever seeing a Colt with a fixed rear sight and ramp front sight, usually it's a blade front, but it could be the angle that's making it look non factory
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Colt Lawman series had fixed rear and a "Ramp Shaped Blade" frnt sight.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Colt...ZEAZfzM:&vet=1
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DO NOT CLEAN THEM OR ANYTHING ... you will actually damage the guns and reduce the value. If they are dirty leave it that way.
Wut?

So I should never clean any of my guns because this'll damage and reduce their values?

Who told you that?
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Old 07-12-2019, 5:56 PM
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Look on gun auction sites--GunBroker, etc.--then add 20% if you're in Kommiefornia. I think your best bet is to sell here, person to person, if you want the most $$. Auction or consignment would cost 20+%.
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Check Gun Broker and Gun Auction for current prices.

The Colt may be worth an extra $100 or more here in CA depending on condition.
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Wut?

So I should never clean any of my guns because this'll damage and reduce their values?

Who told you that?
Many people, who are not gun owners or knowledgeable how to clean guns, inherit guns and think they can use a steel wool or soap and water to make it more valuable before getting it appraised.

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I get it if there is some rusty areas or something, but really? A good light oil rub down the barrel will ruin their value? Looks like they are shooters...
Joe Public has no idea how to clean a gun properly. They are better off handling the guns to the gunsmith directly.

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DO NOT CLEAN THEM OR ANYTHING ... you will actually damage the guns and reduce the value. If they are dirty leave it that way.
LOLOLOL.
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Wut?

So I should never clean any of my guns because this'll damage and reduce their values?

Who told you that?
You will ruin the historic value, lol
The oil will cause the parts to be slick
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Looks like you have two slightly worn light blue & purple Ikea bedspreads with an impressive thread count, and one Montgomery Wards 1974 closed trigger lock.
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sorry for your family's loss..

I've done this for several folks in your situation.. I use sold gunbroker auctions (must be logged in, go to completed auctions in advanced tab) to get in the ballpark.. be careful using listing prices or some books as they are sometimes wildly different than what buyers are currently paying.. also need to carefully consider condition, makes a huge difference on collectibles..

the auto ordinance 1911 should be easy to come up with, looks fairly straightforward condition wise and not highly collectible..

the Colt needs to be looked at a little closer.. based on your picture it appears to have some condition issues.. and in the scheme of Colt revolvers, the lawman is toward the lower end value wise.. python>trooper>lawman..

I think we settled on $550 on this deal about 5 years ago.. it's a 1971 and pristine condition with a great trigger, shoots like a dream..

good luck to your family sorting it all out!

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Auto Ordnance 1911s are not in the same level as Colts nor Springfield Armory. If it’s an older production it will have issues. Have it looked at and see if it had a reliability package done to it.

Depending on what year the Colt revolver was made, modifications, wear/tear, can appreciate/depreciate its’ worth. I.e, https://www.gunbroker.com/item/818940711
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Many people, who are not gun owners or knowledgeable how to clean guns, inherit guns and think they can use a steel wool or soap and water to make it more valuable before getting it appraised.

Joe Public has no idea how to clean a gun properly. They are better off handling the guns to the gunsmith directly.
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Thank you all for the kind words and great information! I do not have physical access to the firearms so I will relay this information to them. They will also likely be purchased from the estate by a family member so a ballpark value will probably be suffice for them. Extra thanks to Killer Bee and JTROKS. I'll encourage them to have the 1911 inspected and worked on if the reliability package isn't applied (if the buyer plans to use it).
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