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Old 02-20-2018, 6:19 PM
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2018 has been kind to me so far. I crossed off another gun on my long term want list, a 1939 Tula SVT38. I'll be bringing it to the March WEGC shoot for a test run and likely its last time at the range.

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Those are beautiful! Good for you I’d love to have both of those beauties...great finds!
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Thanks! The 40's are out there but the 38 was a tough catch. Milsurp1, come to WEGC on 3/11 and shoot it (if it works, hah!)
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wow congrats! awesome rifle and always found the cleaning rod placement on the 38 odd but unique
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That's a nice one. They are very hard to find..
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Nice one, James -

There is a Russian film from the 80's, "Come and see" that uses the '38 as the protagonist's firearm, it is a grueling movie, and I always think of it, when I see the SVT38 - great collectable rifle though!
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Rare one there, nice find
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Congrats James. You should start playing the lottery with the luck your having.
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Damn that is nice!!

I felt pretty lucky picking up my second Nazi-marked G43 recently, but this is awesome (particularly because I'm a huge SVT40 fan, my favorite rifle, ever.)

You can find SVT-40s all day long but this, a SVT38, so incredible! Thanks for sharing something so unique!

It's funny, you know of them, hear of them, then someone posts beautiful pictures here on Calguns and it then gets bumped to the top of the "get list".

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Way to score!! Super bad, super cool. I know how you feel. I thought I'd never get an SVT40 then one kinda fell in my lap. PAX
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Very cool gun, James! Never seen an SVT-38 up-close, though it is quite distinctive with that externally-mounted cleaning rod, kind of like a Kropatchek rifle.

If you're gonna shoot it, I recommend you at least replace the springs in the gun with factory new spec SVT-40 springs, and of course set the gas setting to the bare minimum to cycle to be gentle on the gun. Of course probably shoot clean commercial non-corrosive ammo out of it too if you have any of that PPU ammo.
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These guns are very hard to find. Even old guys like me saw very few of them. Most seem to be Finnish imports before 68, when InterArms brought in the SVT40 rifles from Finland. Haven't seen one for sale at a gun show since they moved the Great Western to Las Vegas in 2000. Even then they had one for 800. I thought that was a lot of money for a rifle so close to an SVT40. Last time I actually saw one at a show tells the rest of the story.
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1st one I've seen that wasn't in a book..Cool rifle!
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Another great find! Congrats!
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Thanks guys! I had never seen one in person, whether it be at a range or a show. It's a very satisfying feeling to own one of the few out there.

Syntax - I'll be borrowing the springs from my shooter SVT40. Heavy ball is a no go, but I have the non corrosive light ball. Same stuff I was running in the Maxim. I won't put many rounds through it but it deserves a range trip. Anyone wanting to take a shot or two with it is welcome.
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Nice one, James -

There is a Russian film from the 80's, "Come and see" that uses the '38 as the protagonist's firearm, it is a grueling movie, and I always think of it, when I see the SVT38 - great collectable rifle though!
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Nice one, James -

There is a Russian film from the 80's, "Come and see" that uses the '38 as the protagonist's firearm, it is a grueling movie, and I always think of it, when I see the SVT38 - great collectable rifle though!
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This kid? I haven't seen the movie but that's a SVT40


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This kid? I haven't seen the movie but that's a SVT40
Yeah, that's the kid. I just skipped through the movie again quickly, it looks like the SVT-40 he has is actually two different rifles (editing?). In some shots it does looks like it could be an SVT-38 (cleaning rod is not there and it looks slightly different), in other shots it's clearly an SVT-40.

Awesome movie btw, I highly recommend it to anyone interested in WW2. At the Great Patriotic War Museum in Minsk, Belarus, they have parts of the movie playing on a loop in a mock village display. I took a bunch of photos and a video of it while there, one of these days I'll post it

I'll guess we'll have to watch it sometime to find out, War Movie Night?

Oh, That's an awesome SVT-38! You bastard!

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Spectacular! congrats! Now if I may follow a previous suggestion maybe we can persuade you to post some lotto numbers
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It took some skill for the kid starring in the movie to make his horrendous situation believable, but in my opinion he pulled it off. Some might see the evil performances of the German soldiers to be over the top, but given the history of the Dirlewanger SS troops, it was probably spot on.
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Beautiful rifle.

As to "Come and See" maybe I should watch it again. The first time through it, I thought it was slow as hell and that the kid was trying for a role in the next Home Alone series.
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You know Phil has a spare SVT38 mag somewhere, right?

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You know Phil has a spare SVT38 mag somewhere, right?

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It's not a spare, I only have the one original SVT-38 mag (had to buy an SVT-40 to get it, haha).

I got it a couple of years ago in anticipation of getting the rifle one day, still looking
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I was about to say there's no way Phillip will part with that mag I'd have to trade him something too good.

Now I have to watch that movie. Thanks for the tip!

I wish my luck would translate into lottery numbers, it seems like firearms are the only thing I'm really lucky with (currently). These classic cars are kicking my ***!
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I was about to say there's no way Phillip will part with that mag I'd have to trade him something too good.

Now I have to watch that movie. Thanks for the tip!

I wish my luck would translate into lottery numbers, it seems like firearms are the only thing I'm really lucky with (currently). These classic cars are kicking my ***!
I was going to mention that it had a SVT-40 mag, but I didn't want to harsh your high...

I have a 38 magazine on one of my 40's...

Maybe a trade plus cash????

Is your rifle Finn marked? Many, in fact most are..
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I was going to mention that it had a SVT-40 mag, but I didn't want to harsh your high...

I have a 38 magazine on one of my 40's...

Maybe a trade plus cash????

Is your rifle Finn marked? Many, in fact most are..
You've piqued my interest! I'll send you a PM.

This one isn't Finn marked, it is original matching minus the trigger guard. It's likely a Finn however.
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This kid? I haven't seen the movie but that's a SVT40
Jeez - you're right that is an '40 - memory is a strange thing.

It's a fairly traumatic film - watch with caution, I found it uncomfortably affecting. The kid plays the director as a youngster, based on his memoirs.

the SVT-38 looks great.

This guy has a pretty good understanding of the gas-setting on the SVT - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVmCONHGPQk
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The correct magazine for this rifle would be an original condition (not reblued and not electropenciled) one with a completely round hole on the bottom. The round hole magazines like the one shown below were made by Tula. The Izhevsk factory made the holes stadium shaped (flat on the top/bottom, round on the sides)

Below is a photo of the magazine (made and posted by Horilka on Gunboards)

Here is Horilkas excellent post about the magazines:

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This kid? I haven't seen the movie but that's a SVT40


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