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Old 03-15-2016, 11:40 PM
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Default All the Anti-2nd Amendment Bills this Legislative Session: With Faces of the Authors.

We often see Anti-2nd Amendment bills posted and discussed, but lose the tangible fact that there are real, evil, awful people with an actual face behind these bills.

Recently there was a thread in the "off-topic" forum called "punchable faces" and on a couple of them that appeared got me thinking "Oh, so THAT'S who that assmunch is - yeah, I'd punch that face - hard".

When we hear or read of these bills, we often only think in terms of the mysterious "they" and "them" like some unseen force is hidden away in a wing of the capitol building in Sacramento, acting as a master of puppets stringing us along, or the Wizard of Oz leading us down a road they own.

Threads posted on the bills rarely show the author. The legislative links only show the tyrant's last name, sans image as well. This helps sustain the idea these bills are a mass-effort by faceless dozens of politicians, where initially it's often just one lousy career-politician. This opportunist typically cares little to nothing about the actual intent of the bill, but the true goal is to wield a two-tiered prong disguised as legislative purpose, to schtump for future votes and conjure some fabricated propaganda for his or her next political campaign.

Likewise, as is often the case for having absolutely no knowledge about firearms in the slightest, they nurture phobias and fear-mongering, to the point of seeking to ban the 2nd Amendment out of some power-hungry exertion of control.

So here we are, in a single thread, the most Anti-2nd Amendment and NeoSocialist bills this legislative term matched to the pie-holes of each rectum-drip or vaginal-discharge that has "authored" these anti-American, Anti-People bills:


Democrat Assembly member David Chiu (District 17): AB-1663 - classify a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept no more than 10 rounds as an assault weapon.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01520160AB1663




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Democrat Assembly member Kevin McCarty: AB 2459 - would require videotaping sales of firearms.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01520160AB1663




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Democrat Assembly members Marc Levine (District 10) and Phil Ting (District 19): AB 2459 - Would define “detachable magazine” to mean an ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm without disassembly of the firearm action, including an ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm with the use of a tool.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01520160AB1664

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and Ting...




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Democrat Assembly member Miguel Santiago (District 53): AB 1674 - would make the one gun purchase per 30-day prohibition apply to ALL types of firearms. The bill would ALSO remove the private party transaction exemption to the 30-day prohibition for ALL firearms.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01520160AB1674






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Democrat Assembly member Mike A. Gipson (District 64): AB 1673 - would expand the definition of “firearm” for those purposes and other purposes to include an unfinished frame or receiver that can be readily converted to the functional condition of a finished frame or receiver.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01520160AB1673




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Democrat State Senators Isadore Hall (District 35) and Steven M. Glazer (District 07): SB-880 - would revise this definition of “assault weapon” to mean a semiautomatic centerfire rifle, or a semiautomatic pistol that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of those specified attributes. The bill would also define “fixed magazine” to mean an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm in such a manner that the device cannot be removed without disassembly of the firearm action.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...201520160SB880

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And Oates...




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Democrat State Senator De León (District 24): SB 1407 - would, commencing July 1, 2018, require a person who manufactures or assembles a firearm to first apply to the department for a unique serial number or other identifying mark, as provided.

The bill would, by January 1, 2019, require any person who, as of July 1, 2018, owns a firearm that does not bear a serial number to likewise apply to the department for a unique serial number or other mark of identification. The bill would prohibit the sale or transfer of ownership of a firearm manufactured or assembled pursuant to these provisions.

The bill would prohibit a person from aiding in the manufacture or assembly of a firearm by a person who is prohibited from possessing a firearm. The bill would make a violation of these provisions a misdemeanor. By creating a new crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.

The bill would require the department to issue a serial number or other identifying mark to an applicant meeting specified criteria and would allow the department to charge a fee to recover its costs associated with assigning a distinguishing number or mark pursuant to the above provisions. would require a person to complete a firearms eligibility check before the department may grant an application for the assignment of a serial number or mark of identification.



http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01520160SB1407

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What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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Democrat State Senator Loni Hancock (District 09): SB 1446 - would revise that definition to mean capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition, but not applying to a feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition (i.e. - bans 10/20, 10/30 magazines even though they still only hold 10 rounds. )


http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01520160SB1446





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Democrat Assembly member Rob Bonta (District 53): AB 1695 - would make it a misdemeanor to report to a local law enforcement agency that a firearm has been lost or stolen, knowing that report to be false. The bill would also make it a misdemeanor for a person convicted of violating this provision to own a firearm within 10 years of the conviction. The bill would define “firearm” for these purposes to include the frame or receiver of the weapon, and to include a rocket, rocket propelled projectile launcher, or similar device containing an explosive or incendiary material.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01520160AB1695




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Democrat State Senator Tony Mendoza (District 32): SB 1332 - would require the Department of Justice to modify its registration form so that both spouses or both domestic partners may register as the owners of the firearm and would require the department to maintain both names on the firearm’s registry. This bill would additionally require the Attorney General to maintain the information supplied to the Department of Justice in certain forms submitted by persons who take possession of a firearm pursuant to a specified exception to the general requirement that firearms transactions be completed through a licensed firearms dealer. Existing law requires the loan of a firearm to be conducted through a licensed firearms dealer. Other existing law excepts from this requirement certain loans of firearms between persons who are personally known to each other if certain criteria are met, including that the loan does not exceed 30 days. This bill would instead make that provision applicable only when the loan does not exceed 10 days in duration.

(Some might argue this bill would help some married gun owners in certain aspects of confusion of ownership of a firearm between spouses. But the other parts of the bill concerning reducing terms of loaning a firearm by number of days to 10, creating a new "crime" associated with that factor, and adding new reasons that require full-on DROS/registration to be logged and subject to the DOJ's oversight - are unacceptable.)


http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01520160SB1332





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Democrat Assembly member Jim Cooper (District 9): AB 1798 - would specify that the definition of imitation firearm described above includes, but is not limited to, a protective case for a cellular telephone that is so substantially similar in coloration and overall appearance to an existing firearm as to lead a reasonable person to perceive that the device is a firearm.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01520160AB1798





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Democrat State Senator Benjamin Allen (District 26): SB 1037 - would establish a presumption that a person who is listed in the registry that records firearm ownership maintained by the Department of Justice or who is listed in the Consolidated Firearms Information System, as the owner of a firearm, an assault weapon, or a .50 BMG rifle, is in possession of that firearm until the department is notified to the contrary.

Would also require CA State Border inspection station signs also state that California law may prohibit a person from bringing a firearm into the state that was acquired outside of the state. This bill would provide a return process for firearms obtained under the circumstances described above and in violation of the requirement that a firearms dealer conduct the transfer.

The bill would also require the owner of the firearm to deliver the firearm to a firearms dealer, who would report taking possession of the firearm to the department, and would require the firearm to be returned to the prior owner after a background check and other requirements that apply to a firearms transaction conducted by a dealer have been met.

Existing law requires reports of ownership be filed within certain grace periods for firearms brought or imported into the state by a personal firearms importer or licensed collector. Existing law makes a violation of these provisions a misdemeanor. Existing law provides that failure to submit those reports within the grace period is not a continuing offense. This bill would provide that those violations committed on or after January 1, 2017, would be a continuing offense. The bill would make a violation of those provisions, in the case of a handgun, punishable as a misdemeanor or a felony.



http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01520160SB1037





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Democrat State Senator Lois Wolk (District 03): AB 2607 - would also authorize an employer, a coworker, a mental health worker who has seen the person as a patient in the last 6 months, or an employee of a secondary or postsecondary school that the person has attended in the last 6 months to file a petition for an ex parte, one-year, or renewed gun violence restraining order. This bill would also specify that these provisions shall not be construed to require any of those persons to seek a gun violence restraining order.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01520160SB1006




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Democrat Assembly member Phil Ting and his ugly Bozo the Clown bow-tie (District 19): AB 2607 - would enact the California Firearm Violence Research Act and establish a "California Firearm Violence Research Center" to research firearm-related violence. The bill would declare legislative intent regarding the principles by which the university would administer the center and award research funds, as prescribed.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01520160AB2607




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What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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I'd also be interested in knowing what city or cities predominated each of their districts.
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Insanity itself... wow, just wow. Speechless. I feel sick reading these bills.
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These Rulers are perfect examples of the intelligence level of the voters in the districts they represent. Think about that.
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JFC, I get pissed just thinking about and reading these bills, now seeing the faces of these morons...
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Dammit, I was trying to drink my morning coffee, now I'm nauseous...holding down bile and vomit...
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Yuck. They idiots are definitely punchable.
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Should twosome newsome's BS be in included?
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There seems to a recurring theme here with these people "D" if only I could my finger on it.
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Yuck. They idiots are definitely punchable.
Hahaha! I was thinking the same thing. I want to punch ever single one in the throat!
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Are they doing anything up there except trying to take guns away?
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So is there a google map link to home address available with each?
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Are they doing anything up there except trying to take guns away?
They're good at spending your tax money for the benefit of special interest, taking bribes from unions, and using their position to help friends and family members get rich. What more can you ask from a CA politician?
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I found a marvelous “letter to the Editor” post on Daily Signal from Oct 2015. I thought it was brilliant, accurate, and concise.
I recommend all of us be ready to cut and paste this at a moment’s notice, as it states what most of us believe, better than most of us can say ourselves.
Here’s the quote, followed by the URL where I found it:

“Of course you don't want to take our guns. You want to regulate every facet of gun ownership and operation. You want to tell us what we can buy, who to buy it from, how they (and we) need to be registered, tracked and inspected, what manner of ammunition we can use, where we can carry it, under what extremely narrow circumstances we can use them, how they must be stored, how they can be transferred (if transferred at all or have to be turned into the government once the owner passes away: See grandfather clause to assault weapon ban), and any number of ever-changing and arbitrary laws, rules and regulations, any of which if not followed to the letter will result in being sent to jail, at which point you'll take our guns. No thank you. Incrementalism is the chief means of eroding our freedoms. Take away a little here and a little there and couching it as common sense or for the greater good until it gets to the point where freedoms don't exist at all.”

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Are their Facebook pages censored? Based on the activity here, would've expected those pages to be bombarded with comments, but they're usually tranquil.
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Excellent Post, Gleam.

Its good to know the faces of the people attacking the Bill of Rights.

And of course, every single one has DEMOCRAT next to their name.


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Democrats.....each one. See a pattern?
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see a pattern here. they are all Democrats. what a surprise. no not really.
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Are there ANY Republican Asians/Latinos/Blacks?

... or are they all ***hats?

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... or are they all ***hats?

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https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/Pub...?district=AD55
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Why is there a BB on that ghost gun? Sure as hell looks like a BB to me, also thanks for the pics.
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That is a damning quote by Jones-Sawyer. I was wondering if anyone can find a video of it, or a source of it in a well-known news source. I sure can't. And, where was he when he said it?
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But the law and the Constitution have never stopped the California Legislature. In fact, Public Safety Chairman Reggie Jones Sawyer, D-Los Angeles said, “This is California; we don’t pay too much attention to the Constitution,” when Paredes pointed out the unconstitutionality of AB 1673.
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Your friends that vote for these people are actively trying to take away your rights, whether or not they understand. Democrat voters are not your friends.
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Thanks.
What I meant to ask, where was this man physically when said this "..pay too much attention to the Constitution" quote? In session? His office? In a bar? And, is this on audio or video anywhere? I'm looking for more "solid" evidence, than that at flashreport.org. That's not exactly what I'd call a well-known or solid source worth quoting; just saying.
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Your friends that vote for these people are actively trying to take away your rights, whether or not they understand. Democrat voters are not your friends.
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I agree 100%.....in theory.
But, what if you're 100% Republican and 100% pro gun-rights, and your wife is a Democrat?

I guarantee you, that I'm not the only man on here, with that challenge. It's not like I can just start a raging fight with my wife every night about gun rights. That would not be a good strategy for a long marriage, especially since she's ideal in every other aspect.

In fact, I have a neighbor just 5 houses away, with the same issue. Husband = very pro-gun, and his wife hates them.

The thing is, 90% of men don't pick their wives based on whether the woman likes guns or not. In fact, I'll bet it often doesn't even come up much during the dating phase.
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It was not easy to find, but I think this is the CA State Constitution that all the elected state officers have to take a oath to: (URL at foot):
""I, ______, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support
and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Consti-
tution of the State of California against all enemies, foreign
and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the
Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the
State of California; that I take this obligation freely, without

any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will
well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which I am about
to enter."

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.const/.article_20
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It was not easy to find, but I think this is the CA State Constitution that all the elected state officers have to take a oath to: (URL at foot):
""I, ______, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support
and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Consti-
tution of the State of California against all enemies, foreign
and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the
Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the
State of California; that I take this obligation freely, without

any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will
well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which I am about
to enter."

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.const/.article_20

There are absolutely no consequences to willfully violating their oath. This is never-minding the issue of using their own interpretation of the constitution or of the second amendment. They would simply claim that the 2A protects the right of a free state to keep and bear militia arms and that individuals have no business being armed and for the purposes of preserving public safety individual possession is prohibited.
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The state's infrastructure is falling apart, our schools are just terrible and these idiots have time for this? Their constituents must eat up this stuff like candy and remain oblivious to the surrounding decay, ethical and tangible.
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It was not easy to find, but I think this is the CA State Constitution that all the elected state officers have to take a oath to: (URL at foot):
""I, ______, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support
and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Consti-
tution of the State of California against all enemies, foreign
and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the
Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the
State of California; that I take this obligation freely, without

any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will
well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which I am about
to enter."

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.const/.article_20

I was going to say the same thing. How are these traitors not held accountable when they are so brazen to not have any reservations vocalizing their animosity toward the Constitution that defines the very bounds of their authority? There should be some basis for legal conviction over his statement, being it is tantamount to treason.

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