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I'm glad to hear everyone is getting their money back. It sucks to see what has happened to Valkyrie, I used to proudly wear my shirts and hand out my cards to everyone. Hasn't been like that for months for me.
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I was in there today to get my gun shipped to Tracy for SSE. Paul was really good to work with and took care of us. Sad to see the shop go this way because of mis management but it sounds like they plan for it to open back up after this mess is sorted out. I hope it works out for them.
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Danny called me saying the same thing last night, that I could come in sometime around 7:30 and pick up my HK. And now it sounds like their phone is disconnected. Way to go down in a ball of fire.
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Hope wont be stung
Hello all new to calgun I was just at VA today about 1300 hrs the man inside with a glock on his hip let me in i asked if the 2 pistol i had sent in arrived he explained the mail had not arrived yet but when they did he would be sending them to Tracy for the SSE, he further explained he was doing the audit and no sales could be performed hopefully he follows through as i checked the tracking # and they have been delivered to VA as of 1430 hrs just have to play the waiting game all and all hope they get there issue worked out as the SSE they performed for my Ruger SR1911 went flawless
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I had a gun sent to them last week for transfer. I've been emailing and calling, no answer, no call back. I'm about an hour away in good traffic, so I'd hate to go there for nothing.... I'm hoping I get a phone call at some point soon.
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Eh, if you Google "Valkyrie Arms Closed", calguns comes up as 4 of my top 10 results.
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There certainly is a striking resemblance...
I'm just assuming that this thread is going to get a lot of local traffic from unhappy Valkyrie customers & we'll be seeing a few new accounts from it. I'll typically give someone the benefit of the doubt... until they bring their best friend's ATF partner into the discussion.
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Any chance Tim can rent me his extended CZ barrel? LOL
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The correct name of our shop is: Metal Dog Tactical.
Sorry, couldn't stand to read any more posts referring to us as "MadDog". I feel for all their customers dealing with difficulties from this situation. I am glad to hear refunds are being processed. Carminia |
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Etc... I agree with the Milpitas location vibe. They were busy busy, going above and beyond to help everyone like they were the only customer in the place. And there wasn't a single night where that place was packed elbow to elbow with customers. As soon as they moved to SC, everything took a dump; inventory, and especially customer service. The only thing that went up was their prices. It really is sad. Quote:
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It's been month's since I've bought anything there, mainly because they NEVER have what I was looking for in stock. I've been spending my hard earned cash elsewhere: Eddy's Shooting Sports Metal Dog Tactical Annie's Guns Reed's Indoor Range and BA Gun Vault... when I absolutely, positively, feel like wasting 20 minutes waiting to get out of their parking lot. And even though they are the closest shop to my house, U.S. Firearms Company has "stuff" in there, but never what I need/looking for. I hope everyone get's their firearm or a refund. This Paul guy seems to be shoulder deep in getting everyone taken care of, let's let him do his thing.
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Funny they can take your money instantly, but take days to put it back - not just VA, but anyplace. I'm not sweating the refund. If it's not there by Monday I'll be a bit more concerned but $125.00 loss ain't gonna kill me. I'm more worried about getting my firearm. I'm sure worrying about the refund is directly proportional to how much money is at stake. |
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Given the few who've posted about collecting money and then taking months it sounds like there were cash flow issues. Typicallly businesses are suppoed to charge a CC within 48 hours of shipment/delivery. It sounds like a number of folks paid in full weeks to months in advance.
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Ive had great experience with VA. Both at Milpitas and SC.
There was a little inconsistency when ordering, my price was $200 more than a shooter i know who just had the same gun ordered. Instead, i just used them as FFL to receive my orders and DROS it or SSE if necessary. All my ppt or dros was done immediately. Only VA does that. Reeds, sportman supply, TM would take at least 30min. TM to be the worst. I wish whoever will take over will still do SSE. |
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Where there's smoke there's fire....
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The SSE is viewed by DOJ as a total loophole to the laws regarding the handgun roster. They don't like this at all, and we were told during our first DOJ udit that doing a lot of SSEs and mag rebuild kits or large cap mags would fly us right into the radar of the DOJ and inspectors. I'm not agreeing with the Roster, not by any means as it is VERY detrimental to our business. Nor am I denouncing those who choose to provide SSE services to allow people to skirt the roster. But we were warned against this by our inspector. We chalked it up to part FUD and part reality. Our inspector offered some anecdote about some SSE dealers that were really really pushing the loophole and the DOJs patience. Out the front door SSE, in the back door remove the parts. Barrel extensions that could not be safely fired, etc. Even some reports of no attempt at making the weapon SSE, just using the exemption being used to put the weapon into somebody's hands. He hinted that there was more than one dealer out there that was about to be shut down and it was only a matter of time before the loophole is officially closed.... All I can say is I'm not that suprised. Seems if you're going to gamble your FFL on SSE you had best make sure to do it entirely by the book. Best of luck to the new owners, best of luck to us gun owners here in CA. CM |
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Some of the speculations in this thread are correct. When the store moved from Milpitas to Santa Clara, a new owner took over. The store was renamed Valkyrie Arms Police Supply and Firearms by the new owner. Tim was on board to help the “new” store. Before being renamed, 10-8 Police Supply was not doing well and Tim was contacted to help with 10-8 Policy Supply’s business. Tim’s advice was not taken and the new owner continued to run the store as he pleased. Tim became less and less involved in the company as time went on, and eventually left. The store started sliding downhill, exponentially in the past weeks. The owner created the recent “inventory & audit” closure to buy time to deal with the situation. Some of us (store employees) stuck around to lend a hand for a short time.
What was happening that dug Valkyrie Arms Police Supply and Firearms' hole was that many of the firearms orders placed at the Santa Clara store were for items that were out of stock. When many of these items came back into stock (sometimes 2 weeks, other times it was months) the new owner had already spent the money. The new owner disregarded Tim’s advice to keep the money aside for customer orders and other store necessities. Tim and the store employees stuck with it for some time and tried to fix the store and the owner’s habits, but were unsuccessful. Tim signed onto 10-8 Police Supply under false conditions and promises issued by the owner. Tim was told 10-8 Police Supply did not have any debt and that they were making a profit. It was eventually found out that 10-8 Police Supply actually owed debt to various vendors. In the past months, the new owner was taking profits from Valkyrie Arms, which was supposed to be used for customer orders, inventory for the store, and employee pay, and instead used it to pay off his debt, and bills. Tim was supposed to have control on how the finances were handled and used. The new owner did not like how Tim used the money, and decided to transfer the money out of the company’s account. Valkyrie Arms (Milpitas) did have guns on order which were transferred over to Santa Clara; however this was because the guns ordered were harder to obtain. Money from these orders was also spent by the new owner. We made it a point never to gouge customers, we wanted to stay competitive. Many of us working there made and became friends with customers and what was happening behind closed doors affected this friendship. We tried our best to get customer their guns, some went as far as using their personal credit cards to acquire inventory, which was quicker than having to use the store’s accounts to order products. Some of us spent time on our days off to track down guns from other dealers, or whoever may have that particular gun in stock. Because of this, we built a good relationship with other dealers. Customer service was a top priority for us. We personally witnessed it lacking at times as things headed downhill. We were proud to hear from customers that we were the friendliest gun shop they had ever visited, and really took pride in that. With the new boss, our morale sometimes dipped and that showed in our customer interactions. We sincerely apologize for the poor customer service. It is unfortunate that it has come to this. All the employees have left the company with Tim. Currently, the new owner has been issuing refunds to customers and transferring the guns he is able to. Since Tim is no longer part of the company, Valkyrie Arms Police Supply and Firearms is unable to perform Single-Shot Exemptions (SSE from now on) of off-roster pistols. Those pistols pending DROS (have yet to be registered) are being arranged to be transferred to another FFL that can provide the proper SSE service. Firearms currently in DROS (already registered and in the 10-day waiting period) can arrange a pick up by calling the store and getting in touch with the owner, unless it is an SSE. Upon our parting with the company, it is still undecided what is to be done with the off-roster pistols that require the SSE to be picked up. We speculate that those DROSs will be cancelled and the pistols transferred to a FFL that can re-register and facilitate the SSE. This post was much longer than expected. We are simply writing to let everyone know the status of the Santa Clara store. This is a sad and unfortunate event for Valkyrie Arms. All of us were customers at the Milpitas store before being asked to come aboard as employees. Many of our personal reputations were tied to the store, not just Tim’s or “Valkyrie Arms”. We employees never intended to “scam” any of our customers or steal their money. We sincerely hope that everyone involved will be able to reach a resolution. It has been a pleasure working for Valkyrie Arms and meeting everyone that came in, even if it was just to hang out. Happy Holidays, Valkyrie Arms Employees
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Valkyrie Arms 07 FFL / 02 SOT Last edited by Valkyriearms; 12-07-2012 at 9:44 AM.. Reason: fix typos |
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That's an unfortunate situation. The Milpitas store and everyone there was awesome.
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The Real reason Valkyrie is shutdown
I just saw a post from Valkyrie Arms assuming that is the original owner Tim I have talked to some of the employees personally the story on there and what they are saying are conflicting this post they said a person that loaned Tim money finally claimed it back in the form of taking all the weapons in the store and forced the store to close for a audit due to possible missing inventory this will determine if further action is required
I emailed the store and Paul said that all SSE will be transfered wither to Metal Dog Tactical or Tracy Rifle and pistol if those 2 places can't do it a place in Fresno He also said the store should be reopening for normal operation after audit is done whichi might be early as next week as I researched even more when Valkyrie was in Milptas it also faced the same issue so before we go pointing fingers we should be fair and hear all the facts |
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Appreciate the info Valkyrie. It was hard to imagine that the shop (and employees/owners) we all once knew in Milpitas turned into what is now the Santa Clara store.
Maybe somewhere down the road Tim and the original team can setup shop again and provide this area with the gun store we once had.
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Nice first post.
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Has anybody had any luck getting back guns that were being worked on ? I have a Saiga that is at the Milpitas location getting an AK fore end and some 922r stuff installed. Paul gave me Tims cell ,but he won't call me back. Ideas? Thanks
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I suggest emailing them where you want to send it to finish SSE, if that is what your waiting for. I didn't get a reply until I told them where to send it. If its just a pick up, you should be able to go get it. |
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