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Old 01-15-2019, 4:10 PM
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Winchester makes takedown lever guns ($$$), Ruger makes takedown 10/22s and 9mm carbines...how cool would it be if Marlin offered a takedown 336?

The takedown shown in the video isn't that complex.

How much would this add to the price of the rifle? $200? $400? More?

A youth 336 is about a $400-ish rifle. A takedown version at $600 would be just the ticket, I think.

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https://www.wildwestguns.com/product...agnum-copilot/

This is the one I want. Just a little bit more expensive than what you are talking about. They also make one in 45-70.

There are some other takedown lever guns on the market that aren't quite as expensive.
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A regular 336 is pretty handy. Easy to store behind the seats and ready to go.
I have a 336 W that I bought back in 2000 celebrate W's inauguration. I still like the rifle though, it's one of my favs.
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I like your thinking

It's hard to pass up the Ruger. I know it's only a 9mm, but having a pistol and handgun that uses the same mags is pretty sweet.
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Browning makes a takedown that takes a magazine so you can use pointed bullets.

https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=Browning (BLR Takedown
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couldn't you just pick up an old Savage 99 takedown, I don't remember them being all that expensive... but then again I haven't looked at them in quite some time
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Yeah,,, that gun is $3500 ? Kind of overpriced IMHO. I have seen them in person and there's about $200 in new parts and another $3-400 in machine work at the outside.

$600 + the cost of the gun new doesn't equal $3500.

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For reference, the actual cost of the mod shown in the video is a grand.

https://www.doveguns.com/pricing

Lever Action Takedown Rifles
-Takedown Conversion
-Smooth Action
-4 lb. Trigger Pull
-True Muzzle and Re-Crowned Barrel
-Stainless Steel Magazine Follower
-Dove Custom Pre-Load Feature
-Pachmayr Recoil Pad
-Custom Length of Pull
-Refinished Wood
-Completely Refinished Metal
-Dove's Reliability Package
-Painted Stock (Optional)
-Scout Scope Base Installed

$999.99 - Conversion On Your Rifle
$1,499.99 - Conversion + New Rifle


Not a bad price for custom work.

I figure that a factory conversion - just implementing the takedown feature - should be fairly reasonable.

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Yeah,,, that gun is $3500 ? Kind of overpriced IMHO. I have seen them in person and there's about $200 in new parts and another $3-400 in machine work at the outside.

$600 + the cost of the gun new doesn't equal $3500.

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Didn't they have one of those " it has to be done by tomorrow" TV shows for a minute?
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^ Holy Toledo, Ohio! (or is that Trinidad, Colorado)...

Those are some sweet takedown conversions. Thanks for the link, LBC. Good to know about Lee Hadaway.

Those leather bags for the takedowns, too. Amazing!
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Didn't [Wild West Guns] have one of those " it has to be done by tomorrow" TV shows for a minute?

They did, and then the owner got busted for some sort of nonsense.

Don't they make the Happy Time triggers I have in two of my three Marlin 1894s?

Jeff Cooper first to0ted their horn in the late '80s or early '90s then included a WWG Marlin 1895 takedown on the cover of his "The Art Of The Rifle", first published in 2002, just four years before his passing. *Moment of Silence*

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There's also the Chiappa. They offer a few different models

https://www.chiappafirearms.com/p/id...Down-Rifle.php

https://www.chiappafirearms.com/p/id...Down-Rifle.php


FWIW, Taylor's and Company also offer the take down guns. I think they're the Chiappa guns, they might have better furniture and actions. I'm a fan of Taylor's and Company.

https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/tayl....html?___SID=U
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For reference, the actual cost of the mod shown in the video is a grand.

https://www.doveguns.com/pricing

Lever Action Takedown Rifles
-Takedown Conversion
-Smooth Action
-4 lb. Trigger Pull
-True Muzzle and Re-Crowned Barrel
-Stainless Steel Magazine Follower
-Dove Custom Pre-Load Feature
-Pachmayr Recoil Pad
-Custom Length of Pull
-Refinished Wood
-Completely Refinished Metal
-Dove's Reliability Package
-Painted Stock (Optional)
-Scout Scope Base Installed

$999.99 - Conversion On Your Rifle
$1,499.99 - Conversion + New Rifle


Not a bad price for custom work.

I figure that a factory conversion - just implementing the takedown feature - should be fairly reasonable.

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I'd expect interrupted threads at that price and maybe a more convenient takedown than a knurled screw through the magazine tube. Great caliber though. My Remington 141 takedown is in 35 Remington.
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The concept of "take-down" firearms is an interesting study. From more knowledgeable folks, as I understand it the issue with most seems to be wearing of certain parts over time that leads up to improper lock-up. How many times one would have to break the weapon down and put the parts back together before something became obvious could vary depending on the design. The above referenced gunsmith has a good reputation according to Richard Mann, an author and true outdoorsman whom I have had occasion to meet with and converse with personally. Jerry Dove also has his own section on another Internet forum board that is run by someone else whom I totally trust, so I would feel confident sending him something to work on.
Having an optic mounted on the barrel portion of any take-down would seem to be superior, as would iron sights.
It certainly seems that customization of firearms to suit individual needs is something that major manufacturers need to get back to. It would certainly make things easier for me.
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Seems like doing this on a tubular mag gun might introduce a lot of unwanted complexity? My Savage 99 takedown is dead simple.
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The concept of "take-down" firearms is an interesting study. From more knowledgeable folks, as I understand it the issue with most seems to be wearing of certain parts over time that leads up to improper lock-up. How many times one would have to break the weapon down and put the parts back together before something became obvious could vary depending on the design. The above referenced gunsmith has a good reputation according to Richard Mann, an author and true outdoorsman whom I have had occasion to meet with and converse with personally. Jerry Dove also has his own section on another Internet forum board that is run by someone else whom I totally trust, so I would feel confident sending him something to work on.
Having an optic mounted on the barrel portion of any take-down would seem to be superior, as would iron sights.
It certainly seems that customization of firearms to suit individual needs is something that major manufacturers need to get back to. It would certainly make things easier for me.
For a while the Browning SL 22 used a grooved receiver for scope mounting but as you suggest that lead to POI changes. The cantilever scope base, which screws on to the barrel, doesn't have the same issue. The Remington 141 has barrel and receiver as one, so whether using the barrel mounted sight or receiver mounted scope, or peep rear, there's no change. I have a Winchester 1895 with a tang sight and receiver mounted peep. I don't see any POI difference, but it's a 405 Winchester and relatively new.
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You could always try the Do-It-Yourself approach...

Building a Lever-Action Takedown Rifle



Building a Backpacker “Scout” Rifle

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IIRC, all Winchester model 12 pump shotguns were takedown...

Winchester-Model-12-Cutts.jpg

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There's also the Chiappa. They offer a few different models

https://www.chiappafirearms.com/p/id...Down-Rifle.php

https://www.chiappafirearms.com/p/id...Down-Rifle.php


FWIW, Taylor's and Company also offer the take down guns. I think they're the Chiappa guns, they might have better furniture and actions. I'm a fan of Taylor's and Company.

https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/tayl....html?___SID=U
Damn you! Never even looked at Chiappa until clicking your links. Then started surfing their sight and came across this:
https://www.chiappafirearms.com/p/id...own-Deluxe.php

Too bad I just bought a large loop Henry 22.
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Damn you! Never even looked at Chiappa until clicking your links. Then started surfing their sight and came across this:
https://www.chiappafirearms.com/p/id...own-Deluxe.php

Too bad I just bought a large loop Henry 22.
I have all 3 hard chrome and over molded rubber take down versions of the Chiappa: Cub .22LR, Alaskan .357 and Ridge Runner 45-70...great looking and performing rifles. I have mine set up like the Wild West Co-Pilot TD rifle.
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Damn you! Never even looked at Chiappa until clicking your links. Then started surfing their sight and came across this:
https://www.chiappafirearms.com/p/id...own-Deluxe.php

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I had one of those in my basket at Buds a few years ago. I started reading some reviews of it (I don't recall the site) and was turned off. They shouldn't be hard to find.
It could be that things have changed, like Imsaid, it's been a few years.
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^ ^ ^ That there linked Chiappa is one gorgeous carbine. Just stunning. Neat little .22!



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I have all 3 hard chrome and over molded rubber take down versions of the Chiappa: Cub .22LR, Alaskan .357 and Ridge Runner 45-70...great looking and performing rifles. I have mine set up like the Wild West Co-Pilot TD rifle.

Holy cow, a trifecta!

Well played, sir. Well played.
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is it just me or does that Chiappa 22 look an awful lot like a Marlin 39a
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The fancy wood stocks on there sure are purty.

I hate when businesses don't give any idea of prices though...
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For reference, the actual cost of the mod shown in the video is a grand.

https://www.doveguns.com/pricing

Lever Action Takedown Rifles
-Takedown Conversion
-Smooth Action
-4 lb. Trigger Pull
-True Muzzle and Re-Crowned Barrel
-Stainless Steel Magazine Follower
-Dove Custom Pre-Load Feature
-Pachmayr Recoil Pad
-Custom Length of Pull
-Refinished Wood
-Completely Refinished Metal
-Dove's Reliability Package
-Painted Stock (Optional)
-Scout Scope Base Installed

$999.99 - Conversion On Your Rifle
$1,499.99 - Conversion + New Rifle


Not a bad price for custom work.

I figure that a factory conversion - just implementing the takedown feature - should be fairly reasonable.

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Takedowns and unique ones at that increase the value.
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Damn you! Never even looked at Chiappa until clicking your links. Then started surfing their sight and came across this:
https://www.chiappafirearms.com/p/id...own-Deluxe.php

Too bad I just bought a large loop Henry 22.
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I have all 3 hard chrome and over molded rubber take down versions of the Chiappa: Cub .22LR, Alaskan .357 and Ridge Runner 45-70...great looking and performing rifles. I have mine set up like the Wild West Co-Pilot TD rifle.
Pretty neat!

Any issues with your rifles? How is the build quality?

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I have a Skinner Co-Pilot (Chiappa) in 44mag and an Alaskan in .357.
Build quality is excellent and they are accurate and run very well.
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Pretty neat!

Any issues with your rifles? How is the build quality?

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All 3 guns are very high quality and workmanship with no issues other than a broken extractor with the .22 Cub early on but, Chiappa made repairs under warranty
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Im looking into Takedown as well.




https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...arm_type/29035

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