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Old 01-17-2019, 5:39 PM
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That is defiantly not a CZ. That i am sure about.
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You couldn't afford it! Taran sells nothing cheap.

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Well, that looks like it holds the same number of rounds as his 158 round mag, is full auto...and never misses even at 150 yards....
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It appears to be a custom STI 2011 !
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You couldn't afford it! Taran sells nothing cheap.

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Nothing from TTI is cheap because of the overhead to keep the gun bunnies around.
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If you have to pay a tax it might as well be a gun bunny tax.
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That's more like shoot what John Wick has. Plus, I can't tell from the previews but it looks like those 2011's belong to Hallie Berry's character and she gives John the gun.

If you want to shoot like John Wick, then learn the CAR method since that's what he uses in the movies.
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Shoot like John Wick
Ducking, back-turned to target, under the armpit, through the wall with an H&K?
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Well, that looks like it holds the same number of rounds as his 158 round mag, is full auto...and never misses even at 150 yards....
Heís got magic shoots...
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Ducking, back-turned to target, under the armpit, through the wall with an H&K?
John Wick fired Hk in part 1 because they were over rated and over priced. Itís why he switched to Glock in part 2.
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Definitely going to be playing around with one at Shot and possibly adding one to the collection
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More pics and info:
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Thank you for the link.




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The new pistol used by John Wick is a collaboration between Taran Tactical and STI. It is a model 2011 single action, hammer fired double stack 9mm.

I realize that some folks might no know who he was, but Jeff Cooper is rolling over in his grave.



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...the 2011 Combat Master is chambered for 9mm major.

I thought the 9mm Major load was for a competition style race gun with a massive compensator at the end. Usually, competitors will shoot 9mm major for two reasons. Major Power Factor so they can game USPSA and get better points. But 9mm major is also important to make compensators work more effectively. More gas and pressure make comps work better. This keeps your race gun flatter shooting and you can shoot faster.

Good grief. The gamesmanship never stops, does it.

On the other hand, Porsche's old tag line, "Racing Improves The Breed" seems to be applicable to handgunning.

I don't know anything about the ballistics of 9mm Major, although I could simply "look it up" and I probably will. But before I do, I will ask, "How long before 9 Major becomes a defense caliber, manufactured commercially?".
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John Wick fired Hk in part 1 because they were over rated and over priced. Itís why he switched to Glock in part 2.
And why he switched to a 1911 in part 3?
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Nope I use real bullets......
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This is what I was expecting.

https://youtu.be/rCIgpUTvfsA

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I don't know anything about the ballistics of 9mm Major, although I could simply "look it up" and I probably will. But before I do, I will ask, "How long before 9 Major becomes a defense caliber, manufactured commercially?".
9mm Major basically exists for a couple reasons. You can fit more rounds in the mag (USPSA Open Division) than a .40 or .45, while at the same time staying away from .38 Super Comp.

EDIT: There is a huge scoring advantage to shooting Major, so you want the smallest caliber you can get (meaning more rounds) while still achiveing power factor. 9mm is the smallest allowable caliber that can achieve this (in Open Division).

Super comp brass is expensive, and since you can not realistically retrieve every piece of brass you fire while at a match, the Super Comp guys are breaking their back trying to find brass while the 9mm Major guys let it fall. There is not a long brass life on 9 Major, so they typically leave it be and move on.

9 Major will not become a defense caliber because of the volume of powder. The case is so full that the projectile is "loaded long" and will not fit in many chambers/magazines of typical service guns like glock, CZ, etc. IMO, this is a good thing.

When I pick up an unfired round of 9 Major, it is immediately obvious what it is. Not that I would fire random pick-up rounds regardless.

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And why he switched to a 1911 in part 3?



1911 only 10 rds, so it doesnít fit his need, lol


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This is what I was expecting.

https://youtu.be/rCIgpUTvfsA

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[y outube]rCIgpUTvfsA[/y outube] (remove spaces)

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Ah cool thank you!

Another cool one.

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9mm Major is not for the faint of heart...........
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9 Major will not become a defense caliber because of the volume of powder. The case is so full that the projectile is "loaded long" and will not fit in many chambers/magazines of typical service guns like glock, CZ, etc. IMO, this is a good thing....
Also, I don't think it would work that well without a compensator to minimize recoil.
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I hate loading 9mm Major with a progressive reloader. Due to the type and volume of powder required to make 165+ PF it is almost up to the case mouth and spills over during indexing station. I chronoed 125 grain JHPs at 1330 FPS through my Springfield 1911 LT 9mm with the factory barrel and an 18 lb recoil spring. The blast is sharper than standard 9mm factory loads that’s for sure. Recoil is about the same as a factory defensive light bullet 40 S&W load. If your 1911 has a bull barrel the recoil and muzzle flip is a breeze.
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John Wick fired Hk in part 1 because they were over rated and over priced. Itís why he switched to Glock in part 2.
I seem to recall he switched to glocks because his HKs were destroyed when his house blew up. Had to take the glocks because, well, desperate times call for desperate measures.
Glad to see he hasn't completely lost his taste in nice firearms.
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"9mm Major" is exclusively from USPSA since the term "major" implies a very specific power factor (bullet weight in grains multiplied by the velocity at the muzzle in feet per second, divided by a power of 10 to bring it down to three-digit number).

The gun in the picture is a Limited division gun so "9mm Major" is a misnomer. It would be scored "minor" in Limited due to the constraint on the bullet diameter. It's actually your regular "9mm Minor."

Of course, it could be used in the Open division and it would indeed be a "9mm Major," but a gun like that wouldn't be competitive at all - it doesn't have electronic sights, compensator or popple holes.
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If you are going to "shoot like John Wick" the firearm is the least important piece of the puzzle. Pay attention, the character is proficient with all weapons.
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The reason why the 9mm Major is scored minor in Limited division is due to the minimum bullet diameter of .40” rule in the following divisions: Limited, Limited 10, and Single Stack. In the real world I’m sure there’s no penalty for using 9mm Major except for being branded a gunslinger in court.
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There is an exception for .357 Sig for Limited Major.
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There is an exception for .357 Sig for Limited Major.
I have to admit Iíve been out of the USPSA matches for a while. Is the exception IPSC or USPSA?
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I have to admit Iíve been out of the USPSA matches for a while. Is the exception IPSC or USPSA?
Both. They have had it for IPSC longer for Standard due to caliber limitations in some countries. I think in a 2014 board meeting they had it included for USPSA. I had one guy from Australia shooting .357 Sig in Major in my squad in last year's Nationals.
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And why he switched to a 1911 in part 3?
Not exactly. Nice try. He picks up a double stack 1911 in the beginning of part 3. He soon realizes itís just not gonna cut it and goes back to Glock handguns in part 3.....

https://www.gunnewsusa.com/2019/01/1...-3-parabellum/

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Both. They have had it for IPSC longer for Standard due to caliber limitations in some countries. I think in a 2014 board meeting they had it included for USPSA. I had one guy from Australia shooting .357 Sig in Major in my squad in last year's Nationals.
Makes sense as it doesnít add capacity compared to the 2011s in 40 S&W, which is the choice of most Limited division competitors. 357 Sig brass is not cheaper than 1x fired 40 S&W. 357 Sig brass tend to have case mouth split after a few trips to the range and reloading bench, unless itís annealed.
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If you have to pay a tax it might as well be a gun bunny tax.
Right? He's saying that like he wouldn't want to receive gun bunnies in exchange for his gun bunny tax.
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There is an exception for .357 Sig for Limited Major.
Good catch, it has indeed changed for 2019.

The reason for having minimum caliber in Limited was to prevent 9mm/38SC from dominating the division solely based on increased capacity due to smaller diameter brass. Since 357 Sig is a necked-down cartridge and the capacity is the same as with .40, it made sense to make an exception and allow it in Limited.
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Makes sense as it doesnít add capacity compared to the 2011s in 40 S&W, which is the choice of most Limited division competitors.
^^^ Beat me to it... I didn't see this before I posted. Oh, well, saying it twice doesn't hurt.
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