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I may need to do a PPT of an OLL at some point in the near future, I presume that the bold-face text above means that, at most, an in-person PPT should be $35/transfer (including the DROS fee)? Thanks! Last edited by scootle; 09-12-2013 at 6:21 PM.. |
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Some datapoints for Los Angeles
Bain Davis, San Gabriel - $110 fee + $25 DROS Aces Pawn, West Covina - $35 fee + $25 DROS. $10 discount for Calguns members Pacific Coast Firearms, OC - $25 fee + $25 DROS |
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In the Palm Springs / Palm Desert area:
Second Amendment Sports / 760.200.4867 $40 / $100 If you want to transfer in a gun that they carry for sale. Private party transfers (both parties onsite) are just $10, $35 with the DROS fee and no sales tax for instate transfers.
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Bakersfield area
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So maybe whoever answered the phone didn't know what they were talking about? Mike |
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It is actually illegal to misrepresent the DROS fee as anything other than $25 ($19 + $5 + $1).
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Roger's Relics was $65 + DROS + tax for new handgun or long gun.
They also mentioned they are REQUIRED to due PPT for only $10 + DROS and don't like it but they "have to". My understanding is if you refuse to do them for the measly $10 your FFL can be messed with. Forgot to ask if that includes any used guns from Gunbroker etc shipped from anywhere to them.
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Shipped transfers are not subject to regulation of the price that the FFL may charge.
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FFL transfer Fees + DROS in the Inland Empire
So I am planning on getting a new gun so I was shopping around today (08/13/14) for low FFL fees, here is what I found as of 4PM. These prices are the DROS and Transfer Fee:
Highland Pawn Highland (909) 864-3800 $40 Highland Guns Highland (909) 862-3434 $40 Back Alley Mercantile Menifee (951) 246-6070 $50 Elm Enterprises Corona (951)532-0177 $55 Safe (951) 377-1484 Sun City $70 K&D Gunsmithing (951) 475-8888 $72 Inland Jewelery & Loan Riverside (951) 781-4063 $86.40 I live in the Inland Empire and all these shops are located in the Inland Empire.
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Guns Direct in Burbank is $80+Dros. Not sure if I can really do better considering the cost of gas both ways.
Also I'm new to CA but whats with the tax collection on transfers? How can they verify the amount of a private sale? Is there a way around it without too much hassle with the IRS? |
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Sales tax is a CA BOE issue, not IRS. I personally hate having to collect the sales tax, but worse than that are those who try to put the FFL is a very bad position.
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I thought there was a federal case that concluded that states cannot collect sales tax for out of state purchases? Edit: anyway I get the FFLs probably don't want to stand up to this just to draw attention to their business with no real gain for business. I'm still just curious about the thought process and actual regulation and precedent that supports the status quo. Last edited by shaocaholica; 09-13-2014 at 3:09 PM.. |
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Don't lie and try to BS your dealer, we know you didn't pay $500 for your brand new Scar 17. Remember it's your FFL that deals with the BOE.
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I had one case where the selling FFL gave a bogus receipt. The original invoice from the distributor was accidentally included, which showed a lower amount. The firearms almost ended up with the police, but the buyers, who did not seem to be part of it (yes, a bit strange), provided copies of their checks. I, as a FFL, will not take the risk of owing money because someone wants to save a little bit of money. Quote:
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And technically speaking, if a buyer lies to an FFL(concerning the sale price), who's liable, the buyer or the FFL or both? Especially in the case you mentioned where the other dealer falsified their documents. Last edited by shaocaholica; 09-13-2014 at 3:28 PM.. |
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In the case of penny auction, the amount owed is based on the TOTAL the company receives on the auction (all bids). Since the company will not say how much they received, the FFL has to base it on the maximum amount possible (or refuse to do the transfer). So if the highest cost of a bid is $1, that would mean that if the auction was "won" for $10, that would be a possible total of $1000, plus the $10 plus the shipping. The problem is that customers think that they should only pay based on the $10. This is why a FFL should not take any chances with respect to sales tax.
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The Walnut Creek, CA shop went out of business several years ago.
Contra Costa Collectible 925.937.3376 Walnut Creek Mike Chance sold to to some employees who tried to keep in going for another year or so, but then the shop closed-up. |
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+DROS?
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Anyone have any clue on any dealers in the solano county area. Looking to do a online transfer/purchase.
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I've been considering buying a gun through mail-order but finding a FFL that is inexpensive is very difficult in the San Francisco Bay Area. Most places charge around $75 fee plus $25 DROS. And that is if they even provide the FFL service.
I wanted to give a shout out to Matt at Fairfield Pawn where I did a PPT for my 1976 Colt Python. The person whom i bought the gun from has used Fairfield Pawn for several other transactions so I trusted him for suggesting a pawn shop. After meeting Matt and visiting the small store, I felt very confident leaving my prized possession in Matts care. Very friendly and clean shop. I would definitely do more transactions through Fairfield Pawn. When I picked up my Python, I was hanging out shooting the breeze with Matt for about 15 minutes. I saw a posted sign with their FFL fees. I couldn't believe it was just $20. Of course you still have to pay the $25 DROS but it is definitely worth the drive. |
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Normally, you're only going to get rates like that from "kitchen table" FFLs. The most reasonable in SoCal (metro) is around $55. $75 is not cheap, but not unreasonable given the market. We have a lot that charge $125+... they don't really want to do them, so they are going to make it worth their while.
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Vandenberg Rod & Gun Club charges...
25.00 for DROS if you purchase the gun from them. 25.00 for DROS and a 20.00 charge for a personal transfer 25.00 for DROS and 30.00 for use of their FFL You need to be a member to use their services. |
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If they are charging $20 for a PPT, that is illegal as the max fee is $10.
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Must be a lot of FFLs breaking the law here. I've seen prices up to and over 75.00!
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