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Old 06-19-2017, 5:23 AM
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Im looking to move out from where I live but worry that the future new landlord could be a gun hater. Do i need to disclose that I have a few rifles?

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Negative, you don't have to tell them jack. Be cautious when moving in, no one else needs to know either.
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Im looking to move out from where I live but worry that the future new landlord could be a gun hater. Do i need to disclose that I have a few rifles?

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Why on earth would you do that?

If someone is openly anti-2A, the correct response is to stand toe to toe with them and make them regret they dared to open their ignorant, anti-American, leftist mouth. Not cower in fear that you've offended them by exercising your constitutional rights.

You need to move out of CA immediately. Your indoctrination is nearly complete...
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Why on earth would you do that?

If someone is anti-2A, the correct response is to stand toe to toe with them and make them regret they dared to open their ignorant, anti-American, leftist mouth. Not cower in fear that you've offended them by exercising your constitutional rights.

You need to move out of CA immediately. Your indoctrination is nearly complete...


Its not indoctrination, its the freaking reality. People are very emotional about it and it the housing market is insane.
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Im looking to move out from where I live but worry that the future new landlord could be a gun hater. Do i need to disclose that I have a few rifles?

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Read the rental/lease agreement VERY carefully. If not mentioned/prohibited in the agreement, ZIP IT ! OPSEC.
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I don't know, most landlords have worked to become affluent! My guess is that educated,prosperous people will appreciate having a good guy armed renting from them.

If they don't want you armed don't rent from them. Never knowingingly support anti gun people! (democrats)
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I just don't like strangers knowing I own guns. I wouldn't be advertising it to my landlord or neighbors.
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Id let him know. along with your drinking habits, what time you wake up, how often you clean the toilet and how hot any of your lady visitors will be.
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You tell your landlord nothing, and keep your guns hidden away and locked in a closet (change the locks)
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Guns? What guns? That safe is for all of my cash, jewelry and bonds....
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I wonder if someone is considering a law requiring same? Zip it.
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As Bill Clinton would say "don't ask, don't tell".
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Guns? What guns? That safe is for all of my cash, jewelry and bonds....
This safe is empty, it was willed to me by my Grandfather. My siblings got everything inside but I hold on to this safe because it's all I have to remind me of dear old Grand Dad.
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A wise man never displays (or discloses) his wealth or his weapons.
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As a landlord, I'm continually baffled by the stupidity of renters.
Don't be that renter or you might find yourself ***** out on the street with no recourse.
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No reason to disclose what you have. Is what you have Illegal? If not, don't worry about it.

If he sees your safe and asks about it, tell him you are over protective over your underwear.
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Its not indoctrination, its the freaking reality. People are very emotional about it and it the housing market is insane.
Dude...seriously, your conversion is nearly complete
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If someone is openly anti-2A, the correct response is to stand toe to toe with them and make them regret they dared to open their ignorant, anti-American, leftist mouth. Not cower in fear that you've offended them by exercising your constitutional rights.
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As a landlord, I'm continually baffled by the stupidity of renters.
Don't be that renter or you might find yourself ***** out on the street with no recourse.
? In the context of this thread what are you saying?
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My rental agreement states no guns or ammo for the last two places I've rented.

Just ignore it. Nobody needs to know.

As others have stated, willingly disclosing this is pretty idiotic.
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You serious, OP? You don't need to disclose a damned thing. This is your castle, and what you do in your castle is your business.

With regard to move-in day though, I might recommend camoflauging your safe if you can. If it's a big one that's being brought in on a dolly, perhaps stick it in a refrigerator box or something when you're wheeling it in. You don't need your neighbors knowing about what you've got in your castle either.
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You dont disclose anything... Keep your mouth zipped and go about your business...

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I don't know, most landlords have worked to become affluent! My guess is that educated,prosperous people will appreciate having a good guy armed renting from them.

If they don't want you armed don't rent from them. Never knowingingly support anti gun people! (democrats)
The landlord doesn't know that the OP is a "good guy".
And how often have you checked out a retail vendor for their 2A stance before you bought something on Amazon or the last time you went to a grocery store?
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Its not indoctrination, its the freaking reality. People are very emotional about it and it the housing market is insane.
As others have already stated in their responses......there is no reason or need to mention that you own firearms. Be discreet in regard to the fact you own firearms. Is this a house or apt bldg you are moving into? Hopefully a house if you are planning on having a safe large enough to hold long arms......otherwise, there is a chance one or more tenants will observe the safe being brought into your apt. Personally, I would pass on any place for rent that has a no firearms clause in the lease/rental agreement. Why enter a ongoing business deal, if you find one of the terms unacceptable....?
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I go shooting with my tenant, but I agree with the advice of not saying anything
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Give him a heads up so he's not surprised when he hears your next ND.
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? In the context of this thread what are you saying?
If I find out that you are lying about something on the lease, I'm kicking you out.
Do you need it any more clear?
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If I find out that you are lying about something on the lease, I'm kicking you out.
Do you need it any more clear?
Sounds like a yummy lawsuit against a wanna be little emperor.

Adorable... I'm fascinated on how you would provide the burden of proof as you to attempt to violate his constitutional rights.
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Sounds like a yummy lawsuit against a pile of trash little emperor.

Adorable... I'm fascinated on how you would provide the burden of proof to attempt to violate his constitutional rights.
OH look, the junior team just showed up.
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OH look, the junior team just showed up.
Yeah, I'm attracted to tough guys...
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As a landlord myself, I would be disappointed if my tenants didn't have firearms. Of course, the properties are in Utah. If it is not stipulated in your lease agreement, the landlord doesn't care. If it is, you might as well be living on a school campus (aka shooting gallery for criminals).
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Adorable... I'm fascinated on how you would provide the burden of proof as you to attempt to violate his constitutional rights.
Constitutional rights restrict *government*, not individuals. There are laws that protect individuals' rights, but this is not the case here.

Violating lease terms is sufficient grounds for terminating the lease. The only exception would be if the terms were somehow found to be unconstitutional. Gun ownership is not a protected category and a landlord who is so anti gun as to put it into the lease agreements actually has an upper hand.

I am a landlord myself and I use a professional management company to handle my properties. If there is anything that I don't want to the point of putting it into the lease agreement, you bet I'd kick someone out for violating it. In my case, it's only about following the HOA rules - if the tenants violates them, he better fix it quickly.
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If I find out that you are lying about something on the lease, I'm kicking you out.
Do you need it any more clear?
To those who think this sounds tough: it isn't. It's just the fact of running a business where rules exist to protect both sides. Lease agreement will contain only those custom clauses that are extremely important to either side.
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Read the rental/lease agreement VERY carefully. If not mentioned/prohibited in the agreement, ZIP IT ! OPSEC.
^^^ This.

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The rental agreement I have with my renters is silent on guns.

It talks about pets, trampolines and above ground pools. Not guns. If it ain't in the rental agreement, shut up!

I know my current renters have at least two safes. But, they are moving.

I reckon I'll need to amend my lease to require guns on the next go round.

"Renter's must have at least one firearm for each adult occupant. Firearms shall be stored at bedside and optionally in a safe in the reloading room."
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