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Old 06-06-2017, 4:11 AM
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I still need to press the front sight in but this is my latest 1911 45ACP build
About 90% Wilson combat parts, TM frame, Thank you Nathan.
Bar-sto barrel and a Nighthawk custom slide, Novak white dot sights
Colors are cerakote FDE and Chocolate brown.
She shot fine before coating now she's tight again will need to break in again.

I tried my best to do a Vickers WC copy on the finer points, flush fit and relieved slide stop pin, chamfered slide, chamfered muzzle on slide. matching chamfer on barrel bushing, flush crown 45 degree cut, need to install the mag chute. I'll get a pic of the muzzle and grip tonight.









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Well I certainly approve! Beautiful work man!
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I sure like it! ...I need to get going on mine again. It got set aside when I got frustrated with it.
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I sure like it! ...I need to get going on mine again. It got set aside when I got frustrated with it.
Its a smart man that knows when to put a project down before a mistake is made, nothing wrong with that,
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Its a smart man that knows when to put a project down before a mistake is made, nothing wrong with that,

That's for sure... There have been times when I just had to put everything down and walk away, and then when I came back the "problems" magically turn to "opportunities".

Nice build Sir! But I have to ask, what happened to the ambi-safety's coating on the right side?
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That's for sure... There have been times when I just had to put everything down and walk away, and then when I came back the "problems" magically turn to "opportunities".

Nice build Sir! But I have to ask, what happened to the ambi-safety's coating on the right side?
If you mean what appears to be a screwed up paint job. that's my oily greasy finger prints. look at the joints, the gun is bleeding oil.
I slather everything down on first assembly. everything gets oiled with copious amounts.
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She shot fine before coating now she's tight again will need to break in again.
All the more reason to parkerize instead of paint.
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All the more reason to parkerize instead of paint.
Can't parkerize stainless.

in reality it's more of "all the more reason to cut the frame on the sloppy side. but then you have to hope you get your coating thickness sprayed on correct.

Parkerizing has it's place I like both but what i wish i had was hot salts.
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There's a sloppy black blotch on the frame above the trigger...
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I was drinking Guinness and spilled some Sorry
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Who am I to approve or disapprove?

I like it. The only things that jump out at me are stainless pins and magazine catch lock, and the set screw visible in the trigger.

How does it shoot? I know you said it test fired fine, but I guess I am wondering if it performed well over a good number of rounds, how was the grouping?

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in reality it's more of "all the more reason to cut the frame on the sloppy side. but then you have to hope you get your coating thickness sprayed on correct.
In fitting the focusing cell inside high end camera lenses, it's common to cut the threads loose, spray them with a Ceramic/Teflon finish and then lap them back together for as tight of a fit as possible.
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Tough to shoot without a front sight

Looks good! I'm seeing brown firearms more and more.
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Who am I to approve or disapprove?

I like it. The only things that jump out at me are stainless pins and magazine catch lock, and the set screw visible in the trigger.

How does it shoot? I know you said it test fired fine, but I guess I am wondering if it performed well over a good number of rounds, how was the grouping?

Need to see more pics. Show it off!!!

I didn't check it for group size. i just put three mags through it for function.

I load one round in a mag and fire. and hope the slide locks back. I'll do that three times before adding more rounds to the mag. then I'll load a full mag and go for it.

The last two mags i fired i was able to make golf ball sized rocks dance across the desert floor. we'll shoot it of the rest and see next week.

the set screw is not set up. and if need be swapped out for one that will not be visible. (good point on that.) as for the pins I have some other cerakote work that needs to be done I can hit those too, that was the originally but the pins got over looked. screw lock on mag catch. yep I'll take care of that too.

The Approval thing was a Nod to your eye for detail and skill for hand fit part, See i look at this as a Custom rifle. I've spent two decades learning how a american classic stock should fit. how a bolt handle should sweep and what shape it should have and how it follows the lines of the rifle. what style scope, base and rings will look good, not just grabbing the first thing off the shelf and dropping it on. This is all knowing what to look for.
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In fitting the focusing cell inside high end camera lenses, it's common to cut the threads loose, spray them with a Ceramic/Teflon finish and then lap them back together for as tight of a fit as possible.
You don't want a group of lenses moving around within the threads when you rack focus as it causes the image to shift.
well this one was snug enough she didn't want to go together at first. some 3000 mesh diamond polishing compound took care of that. i get a little resistance at the rear most part of the travel. but the slide operates under spring pressure and only refuses to lock up when you baby the slide. sling shot and she's fine.
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I understand that you are not quite done yet.
However, it looks terrific, what a great color combo along with the grips.
There is lots of nice detailing, too.
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I understand that you are not quite done yet.
However, it looks terrific, what a great color combo along with the grips.
There is lots of nice detailing, too.
"I'll take it!"
Yep some minor things to take care of but the bulk of the work done.

This was meant to be a subtle build, nothing flashy or anything that sticks out like a sore thumb. just some refining of some details, I do wish i cut the slide at 30 degrees instead of 45 something to consider on the next build. I need to get my 38 super done before DOJ says I can't without their permission
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I didn't check it for group size. i just put three mags through it for function.

I load one round in a mag and fire. and hope the slide locks back. I'll do that three times before adding more rounds to the mag. then I'll load a full mag and go for it.

The last two mags i fired i was able to make golf ball sized rocks dance across the desert floor. we'll shoot it of the rest and see next week.

the set screw is not set up. and if need be swapped out for one that will not be visible. (good point on that.) as for the pins I have some other cerakote work that needs to be done I can hit those too, that was the originally but the pins got over looked. screw lock on mag catch. yep I'll take care of that too.

The Approval thing was a Nod to your eye for detail and skill for hand fit part, See i look at this as a Custom rifle. I've spent two decades learning how a american classic stock should fit. how a bolt handle should sweep and what shape it should have and how it follows the lines of the rifle. what style scope, base and rings will look good, not just grabbing the first thing off the shelf and dropping it on. This is all knowing what to look for.
I would want to see more pics of the details. The one thing regarding fit that is very visible is the beavertail fit to frame. Since I have kind of been on a path to learn how to do a seamless fit there, it jumps out at me.

The rest of the gun from the two pics looks great.
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I would want to see more pics of the details. The one thing regarding fit that is very visible is the beavertail fit to frame. Since I have kind of been on a path to learn how to do a seamless fit there, it jumps out at me.

The rest of the gun from the two pics looks great.
Yeah the frame i used and the beaver tail left a lot to be desired in terms of fit. i did weld up the frame and recut and it helped but still not as nice as i'd like and no where near what i've seen you produce.

the subtle details i mean are just minor external cuts and shaping.

I hand chamfered and 600 grit stone polished the muzzle end of the slide, Same treatment to the bushing, chamfered the bottom of the slide. Flushed the slide stop pin and added the dimple, rounded the trigger guard, but after seeing what you did at leveling the frame from the rail to trigger guard area i wish I had seen that before this. I really want to checker the front strap but need way more practice with that.
nothing major, just some minor refinements, I'm still learning what needs to be done, how to get there, and what looks good and what don't.
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I am a huge fan of front strap checkering and trigger guard undercuts.
It is hard to believe how much of a difference those undercuts make on a 1911, but once you feel it, you will want it on all 1911s.

I noticed that you cut the chamfer at 45 and agree it would look better cut at 30 because I do like a higher chamfer. But higher chamfers are not subtle.

The one thing that I keep thinking about looking at the pics is whether it would loot better with ball stirrup cuts on the slide. I think it would flow better into the front of the frame, and the frame dust cover could be ball cut too to continue that radius. Would look unique.

Can't wait to see it with a magwell, but your grips are beveled on the bottom, and I think it will not look right.

In any case, keep posting pics of progress. I love looking at people's builds.
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I am a huge fan of front strap checkering and trigger guard undercuts.
It is hard to believe how much of a difference those undercuts make on a 1911, but once you feel it, you will want it on all 1911s.

I noticed that you cut the chamfer at 45 and agree it would look better cut at 30 because I do like a higher chamfer. But higher chamfers are not subtle.

The one thing that I keep thinking about looking at the pics is whether it would loot better with ball stirrup cuts on the slide. I think it would flow better into the front of the frame, and the frame dust cover could be ball cut too to continue that radius. Would look unique.

Can't wait to see it with a magwell, but your grips are beveled on the bottom, and I think it will not look right.

In any case, keep posting pics of progress. I love looking at people's builds.
i was thinking about the mag chute too. i think I'm going to leave it be. grips being beveled it will look odd.
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i was thinking about the mag chute too. i think I'm going to leave it be. grips being beveled it will look odd.
Oh, I would just get different grips. Or, if you go with a Stan Chan Gen 2 magwell (requiring shortening of the frame) you can use the same grips and cut them down.
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Are magwell chutes the "go to" for 1911 builds? Seems that everyone is putting them on, and the all-in-one MSP with magwells are really expensive. I'm a bit uncertain on the looks of the gun with the magwell. Been eyeing the Wilson Combat All-in-ones, or just getting a MSP and a cheap magwell add-on.

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I think it is personal preference, but they obviously help with reloads by guiding the mag in.

Smith & Alexander 1-piece mag chutes are not as nice as WC but are about half the price. ED Brown and others make 2 piece MSH/magwell combos. I never liked those because of how they looked. I think they are a little cheaper but I am not sure.
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KC,
have the sights made their way onto the slide?
And how was the test fire?
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Kcstott, with your access to a proper mill, and your skills, it wouldn't take you much time to add a Stan Chen Gen 2 magwell to this build. I think this would be a cleaner option than the other choices, if you do end up doing it. I understand the premium to pay for one of these, but they are beautifully machined...
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Kcstott, with your access to a proper mill, and your skills, it wouldn't take you much time to add a Stan Chen Gen 2 magwell to this build. I think this would be a cleaner option than the other choices, if you do end up doing it. I understand the premium to pay for one of these, but they are beautifully machined...
You could have thrown in a pic to "seal the deal".
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Front sight made it on last night, just got back from the desert. Took less then 7 rounds to loosen up.
She hits everything i aim at. Didn't shoot a group, I don't have a pistol rest. But accuratacy is fine.
I promise I'll get a good shot of the muzzle up
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Well Vacation got in the way of post pics like i promised. but they are up now. I left the plug and guide rod in raw stainless as they will take the majority of the abuse from cleaning disassembly
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Looks nice. Is that chatter on the reverse crown?
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Looks nice. Is that chatter on the reverse crown?
Nope, that's blast residue
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Figured it was a dumb question. I have been on a roll of dumb questions lately. On multiple forums.

Here is another one: have you decided whether you are going to go with a magwell?
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Maybe on the next one. This one is done. Might change it down the road but that's down the road
I do like the mag well you have to cut the grip to fit. Produces a very beautiful build
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Well Vacation got in the way of post pics like i promised. but they are up now.


I like that bushing is chamfered. Maybe chamfer the front of the frame to match? That would be dope.

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