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Old 04-08-2021, 9:18 PM
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Default COE/03 Ammo Transfer Question

Pardon my ignorance if this has been covered but I'm at a loss on some questions:

Can an FFL01 LLC transfer ammunition to the owner without the need for a background check under Cal. Pen. 30352? Just a weird thought that I can't seem to find an answer on.

More relevantly: Can an in-state vendor ship ammunition to an in-state 03/COE holder under Ca. Pen 30312? "(b) Commencing January 1, 2018, the sale, delivery, or transfer of ownership of ammunition by any party may only occur in a face-to-face transaction with the seller, deliverer, or transferor, provided, however, that ammunition may be purchased or acquired over the Internet or through other means of remote ordering if a licensed ammunition vendor initially receives the ammunition and processes the transaction in compliance with this section and Article 3 (commencing with Section 30342) of Chapter 1 of Division 10 of Title 4 of this part."

"(c) Subdivisions (a) and (b) shall not apply to the sale, delivery, or transfer of ammunition to any of the following:...(6) A person who is licensed as a collector of firearms pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, whose licensed premises are within this state, and who has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 26710."

If a in-state vendor processed the sale onsite can't they simply ship it out the door? Per 30312 they processed the sale on site, presumably made it by the Internet, and could run the COE if they needed to verify.
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Old 04-09-2021, 5:48 AM
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Starting 07-01-2019, a CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor or CA FFL dealer must submit a DROS everytime they transfer ownership of ammunition. [PC 30352]

DROS submission requires the transferee to be in-person. [11 CCR 4302, 4303, 4304 and PC 28180]
COE verrification requires the transferee to be in-person. [11 CCR 4305 and PC 28180]

They only people exempt from the DROS submission requirements are: [PC 30352(c) and 11 CCR 4306]
1. A CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor.
2. A CA FFL dealer.
3. A gunsmith with a valid 01-FFL.
4. A wholesaler/distributor with a valid 01-FFL.
5. A firearms manufacturer with a valid 07-FFL.
6. A firearms importer with a valid 08-FFL.
7. An ammunition manufacturer with a valid 06-FFL.
8. An authorized Gov/Mil/LE employee with written authorization from their Gov/Mil/LE agency to acquire the ammo for Gov/Mil/LE use.
9. A qualifying LEO.
Prior to delivering the ammo, the exempt person must provide copies of their credentials/documents to the CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor/CA FFL dealer.


Therefore...


From 01-01-2018 to 06-30-2019, it was legal for a CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor or CA FFL dealer to ship ammo to a person with a valid C&R 03-FFL and valid COE.

Starting 07-01-2019, a CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor or CA FFL dealer can not legally ship ammo to a non-exempt person within CA.

For the purpose of a CA DOJ licensed ammunitition vendor or CA FFL dealer shipping ammo within CA, a person with a valid C&R 03-FFL and valid COE is considered a non-exempt person.
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