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Old 02-27-2018, 10:57 PM
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My friends, I see that Buck is offering the 110 and 112 with a drop point blade.

What I have found is that the 420 is a little softer steel and the 5160 has a little chromium added to make it harder. Which do you prefer?

I'm looking at adding a 112 and a 110 automatic ...
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Old 02-28-2018, 12:21 AM
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420hc is very stainless.

5160 is not stainless.

Both steels are tough, both get sharp, both are easy to sharpen. 5160 might be tougher and is commonly used in larger knives.

In something like a 110 or a 112 the only difference you'll see is that the 5160 blade will patina and the 420hc blade will not.

Edit to add: Buck hardens their 420hc to 58 Rockwell giving it about the best edge holding ability you can get from 420HC. I'm not sure where their 5160 is hardened to.
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Old 02-28-2018, 5:48 PM
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Awesome! Looking for a better price. But, I'm getting one. At least.
Scratch that. Two. 110 and 112. Thanks for the heads up. Didn't know about the drop points. 420HC it will be.
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Old 03-05-2018, 10:07 PM
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I've had the knife a couple days now. Its a little pricey for a 110 but its better than a 3rd party price. Its rock solid and sharp as hec. I'd rather have a drop point, but I'll settle for this one and pick me up a 112 drop point later on. Maybe Buck with make an auto with a drop point soon.
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Generally speaking, carbon is the element which makes it harder. 420 stainless steel has a carbon rating between .15-.40%. The "HC" stands for high carbon so its safe to assume 420 HC has around .40% carbon since this would be around the max for the 420 series.

5160 has around .60% carbon so it should be harder not taking into account the other alloying elements. In addition, as mentioned above, the material is only part of the equation. You also have to consider the process it undergoes. As far as I'm aware, Buck's heat treat is top of the line and yields good hardness levels.

Also, Buck's made in USA is better quality than their foreign made knives. The foreign knives use 420 j2. Fwiw, There's also an s30v 110 made for Cabelas only.
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